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Ann Coulter Blasts 'Liar and Con Man' Donald Trump Over Ron DeSantis Booster Criticism
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Jimmy Higgins
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He was Presidents decades ago. Move on! Trump was a fraud when he off'd his bankrupt casinos to a public company he formed and walked away rich.
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That is simply idiotic. Not voting for candidate X is not equivalent as voting for candidate X's opponent.
Furthermore, depending on where Toni lived during the Clinton years, whether or not Toni voted may have had no effect whatsoever on the outcome if Toni's state went for Clinton without her vote.
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Powerful men have lusts and foibles. The foibles are BOTH cause AND effect of the power. As evidence of this, look at all the powerful men who've recently been outed for illicit sex or harassment.
The real biography of JFK makes a mockery of his "Camelot" myth. LBJ may have been criminally ruthless; and similarly for Nixon. There was rampant corruption and criminality during Reagan's reign (though he might be personally absolved with the "I was just the old guy with Alzheimer's" defense).
And this is how politics has been for millennia. Augustus Caesar was one of the greatest political leaders in all of history: he killed his rivals. Governor Huey Long hugely advanced the welfare of poor Louisianans but is now regarded as a caricature of corruption.
Sanity test: For all their foibles, JFK, Huey Long, Nixon etc. had characters that DJT lacks. Name some of them.
Like most of the greatest political leaders, Clinton had his foibles. (I wish his wife were MORE ruthless and LESS virtuous — maybe then she'd have defeated DJT.) But what in tarnation are YOU referring to? Can you honestly lump Clinton and Trump into the same bin?
The real biography of JFK makes a mockery of his "Camelot" myth. LBJ may have been criminally ruthless; and similarly for Nixon. There was rampant corruption and criminality during Reagan's reign (though he might be personally absolved with the "I was just the old guy with Alzheimer's" defense).
And this is how politics has been for millennia. Augustus Caesar was one of the greatest political leaders in all of history: he killed his rivals. Governor Huey Long hugely advanced the welfare of poor Louisianans but is now regarded as a caricature of corruption.
Sanity test: For all their foibles, JFK, Huey Long, Nixon etc. had characters that DJT lacks. Name some of them.
Like most of the greatest political leaders, Clinton had his foibles. (I wish his wife were MORE ruthless and LESS virtuous — maybe then she'd have defeated DJT.) But what in tarnation are YOU referring to? Can you honestly lump Clinton and Trump into the same bin?
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It doesn't matter where I lived when Bill was running for POTUS: He WON. Both times. Neither time did I vote for him. At least once, I voted 3rd party. Now, if Clinton had lost the time (don't remember, maybe I did 3rd party both times) in a very close election, then a fair point could be made that my not voting for Clinton did as much good as if I had voted for his opponent who did win. But that wasn't the case.
I will say that since Clinton's administration, I grew up and decided that even if the choice was between bad and worse, I had to choose which was worse and vote to ensure that worse did not win. In my much younger days, I really liked the idea of voting for a 3rd party candidate, to thumb my nose at The Establishment. That did not necessarily work out the way I wanted it to. My 3rd party candidates never came close, remotely and in most cases, the worst guy won.