Another study links Trump support to racism

[Underseer]

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/08/study-proves-trump-supporters-racial-animosity.html

A majority of white people are racist and are very angry that America elected a black president.

 

[whichphilosophy]

To say the majority of white people are racist is in itself a racist statement.

Guilt by association should have died out with McCarthyism.

In other words a confederate flat does not make someone a Nazi, nor does the fact that ultra-right wingers make Trump a Nazi no more than the CPUSA endorsement of Sanders make him a Communist.

Jason Easley who founded Politicus claims to be 'free of corporate control which I am sure he can describe in more detail but based on news content the reporting is consistently biases. Therefore his objectivity could not be relied on.

 

[Keith&Co.]

To say the majority of white people are racist is in itself a racist statement.

No, not really.
If you find an individual white person and decide they must be racist because they're white, that's racist.
Using 'race' in a statement does not make it a racIST statement.

In other words a confederate flat does not make someone a Nazi, nor does the fact that ultra-right wingers make Trump a Nazi no more than the CPUSA endorsement of Sanders make him a Communist.

You really need to spend some time reading the posts you respond to.
The OP is not saying Trump is racist because his supporters are. It's saying that Trump's support includes racists.
As to WHY racists support Trump, that's a separate issue.

Therefore his objectivity could not be relied on.

You're not really in a good position to criticize other people's objectivity, WP...

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Haven't we already had a thread on this piece of crap, or am I mixing up boards?

Look at the pictures they used--this is yet another piece of "research" rigged to find racism. Look at the photography--the black guy was shot by an amateur, or more likely by someone who wanted to make him look bad.

 

[Derec]

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/08/study-proves-trump-supporters-racial-animosity.html

More junk science ...

A majority of white people are racist and are very angry that America elected a black president.

Most white people are not "very angry" that a black (really biracial) president was elected. Many of us even voted for him.

Most white people are not racist. And I would say that there is a greater percentage of black people who are racist, mostly because there is hardly any stigma associated with being a black racist.

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It's saying that Trump's support includes racists.

Is there a politician whose support does not include racists?

 

[Keith&Co.]

a black (really biracial) president was elected.

Why is that an important distinction?

 

[fromderinside]

It's not. Americans, us, me and you, are so inclined to discrimination that any sign of color to a 'real american' is a sign of inferiority. It's an almost inescapable reaction without thinking. if we did think we'd have to admit those of color are better at entertaining, physically competing, and almost everything else including thinking. But, we don't.

Nuance is not an american tradition. Get the paint brush and paint the wall white brother.

 

[Derec]

It's not. Americans, us, me and you, are so inclined to discrimination that any sign of color to a 'real american' is a sign of inferiority. It's an almost inescapable reaction without thinking. if we did think we'd have to admit those of color are better at entertaining, physically competing, and almost everything else including thinking. But, we don't.

You are complaining of imaginary racism but then go ahead and commit actual racism. But because it claims that whites are inferior, such racism is considered politically correct.

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It's not. Americans, us, me and you, are so inclined to discrimination that any sign of color to a 'real american' is a sign of inferiority. It's an almost inescapable reaction without thinking. if we did think we'd have to admit those of color are better at entertaining, physically competing, and almost everything else including thinking. But, we don't.

You are complaining of imaginary racism but then go ahead and commit actual racism. But because it claims that whites are inferior, such racism is considered politically correct.

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a black (really biracial) president was elected.

Why is that an important distinction?

I find the one drop rule rather distasteful. And racist.

 

[Keith&Co.]

a black (really biracial) president was elected.

Why is that an important distinction?

I find the one drop rule rather distasteful. And racist.

So, you're saying Obama was biracial instead of black?
So we're still waiting for a black president?

 

[Elixir]

So, you're saying Obama was biracial instead of black?
So we're still waiting for a black president?

Such a shame that Obama was just black enough to inspire irrational hatred and fear in the hearts of the neo-con rabble.

 

[Keith&Co.]

So, you're saying Obama was biracial instead of black?
So we're still waiting for a black president?

Such a shame that Obama was just black enough to inspire irrational hatred and fear in the hearts of the neo-con rabble.

And when his daughter got into Harvard, they all whined about biracial privilege...

 

[whichphilosophy]

No, not really.
If you find an individual white person and decide they must be racist because they're white, that's racist.
Using 'race' in a statement does not make it a racIST statement.

In other words a confederate flat does not make someone a Nazi, nor does the fact that ultra-right wingers make Trump a Nazi no more than the CPUSA endorsement of Sanders make him a Communist.

You really need to spend some time reading the posts you respond to.
The OP is not saying Trump is racist because his supporters are. It's saying that Trump's support includes racists.
As to WHY racists support Trump, that's a separate issue.

Therefore his objectivity could not be relied on.

You're not really in a good position to criticize other people's objectivity, WP...

Re the second line of your post I was referring to the comment at the thread starter which is as follows:

A majority of white people are racist and are very angry that America elected a black president

That is a false statement because the majority of white people are not racist. Of course Trump's supporters include racists in the extremes as do the Democrats include communist supporters. This is prevalent around the world and no less so than the UK.

Some racists support Trump but not all Trump supporters are racists. Some Marxists support Hilary and Sanders but that does not mean they are Marxist. There are no other links.

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So, you're saying Obama was biracial instead of black?
So we're still waiting for a black president?

Such a shame that Obama was just black enough to inspire irrational hatred and fear in the hearts of the neo-con rabble.

Of course there are right wing-nut bigots who would say that but these are from the ultra-right.

 

[Rhea]

So, you're saying Obama was biracial instead of black?
So we're still waiting for a black president?

Such a shame that Obama was just black enough to inspire irrational hatred and fear in the hearts of the neo-con rabble.

Yes, that's what's so telling about the "but he's biracial" claim. In racism, "black" is whatever causes the negative reaction from those in power that affect them. So someone could be biracial and even 3/4 white or more. But if they appear to look "black" then they are gifted with being treated black and all of the effects therefrom.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Such a shame that Obama was just black enough to inspire irrational hatred and fear in the hearts of the neo-con rabble.

Yes, that's what's so telling about the "but he's biracial" claim. In racism, "black" is whatever causes the negative reaction from those in power that affect them. So someone could be biracial and even 3/4 white or more. But if they appear to look "black" then they are gifted with being treated black and all of the effects therefrom.

Speaking as a confirmed mongrel of 4 nationalities how many of us are 'pure' anything nowadays. There are some bigots around but I would say colour should not be a problem but those how discriminate about colour have problems.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Re the second line of your post I was referring to the comment at the thread starter which is as follows:

No, i quoted the line of yours that i took issue with. If there's a study that shows X, then one may or may not argue with the study, or how they reached their conclusions, but that was not a racist statement.

That is a false statement

Which is NOT the same as it being a racist statement...

because the majority of white people are not racist.

And you know this because....?

Of course Trump's supporters include racists in the extremes as do the Democrats include communist supporters. This is prevalent around the world and no less so than the UK.

Well, yeah. But you rushed in to defend Trump. Trump was not the subject of the OP. Your objectivity is nil because you have such an obvious trigger.
Trump isn't guilty by association in the OP, he's not even accused in the OP.

Some racists support Trump but not all Trump supporters are racists.

No one said 'all.' So, your defense is still off-point.

But some studies indicate that everyone's a little bit racist. The people who voted against Obama because of his race would qualify, as well as anyone who voted FOR him based solely upon his race.

 

[Eldarion Lathria]

To say that white people are racist is racist, because white people are NOT people. They're Not people of no color cave beasts. Just ask Al Sharpton.

Eldarion Lathria

 

[Mumbles]

I understand the academic need for evidence, but did anyone here *really* need a study to know that Minute Maid Mao's "white power" campaign would attract the sort of person who spent Obama's presidency emailing pictures of Obama as an African witch doctor?

*shrug* the birds of a feather flocked together.

 

[Derec]

I understand the academic need for evidence, but did anyone here *really* need a study to know that Minute Maid Mao's

I thought we were not supposed to demean people because of their color. And Mao was a left-winger, a commie actually. Supported in the US by for example Black Panthers, whom the Left to this day refuses to condemn.

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But if they appear to look "black" then they are gifted with being treated black and all of the effects therefrom.

Like getting affirmative action in college admissions and employment? Like getting United Negro College Fund moneys?
Like having racist people like fromderinside assume that they are superior in every way to honkeys?

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So, you're saying Obama was biracial instead of black?

Is biracial. Being out of the White House does not banish him into past tense.

So we're still waiting for a black president?

Well, we did have Bill Clinton.

 

[whichphilosophy]

No, i quoted the line of yours that i took issue with. If there's a study that shows X, then one may or may not argue with the study, or how they reached their conclusions, but that was not a racist statement.

That is a false statement

Which is NOT the same as it being a racist statement...

because the majority of white people are not racist.

And you know this because....?

Of course Trump's supporters include racists in the extremes as do the Democrats include communist supporters. This is prevalent around the world and no less so than the UK.

Well, yeah. But you rushed in to defend Trump. Trump was not the subject of the OP. Your objectivity is nil because you have such an obvious trigger.
Trump isn't guilty by association in the OP, he's not even accused in the OP.

Some racists support Trump but not all Trump supporters are racists.

No one said 'all.' So, your defense is still off-point.

But some studies indicate that everyone's a little bit racist. The people who voted against Obama because of his race would qualify, as well as anyone who voted FOR him based solely upon his race.

The Oxford dictionary describes a racist as

Showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another:

There is no clarity how any such study reached its conclusions. Given Politicus is to the ultra-left, just like ultra-right publications, the conclusions are most likely formed before the research.

There is no need to disprove a negative. The study concluded that white people are racist but provided nothing empirical.
It does refer to Trump since the title of the study states:

It’s The Racism, Stupid: New Study Shows Racial Animosity Linked To Support For Trump

However it’s a self-evident fact that Republicans tend to be pin-ups for the ultra-right and Democrats or the Democratic party serves as a pin-up for the ultra-left. In this respect the apparent study shows nothing new. Whether or not Trump was there, the extreme left and extreme right gravitate to the left and right respectively.

Some would have voted for Obama because of his race but if this did not fit the definition of ‘racist’ unless they were discriminating against the others because of their race and possibly had animosity. No racist party in the USA gain more than around a percentage point if they stood.
Besides a lot of white people voted for Obama otherwise he would not have won.

 

[fromderinside]

So, you're saying Obama was biracial instead of black?

Is biracial. Being out of the White House does not banish him into past tense.

So we're still waiting for a black president?

Well, we did have Bill Clinton.

Those who presume race are racists. Those who hypothesize to racists based on the other's racism are just attempting to get the racist to understand how silly their positions be.

So what do racists do? They just go on with continued insistence of race.