WAB
Veteran Member
With deepest respect and genuine (no, REALLY) LOVE for ALL:
Perhaps science, as Sub has told me, is not the only discipline qualified to speak about such matters?
Certainly, or as certain as we can be, philosophers are equipped to deal with the most profound ideas: I offer you Plato, Aristotle, Anselm, Aquinas, Augustine, Boethius, etc. The list would require several pages, even in small print, and that's not even touching on the GREAT minds in Arabia, (Islam) India, Burma, China, Japan, and especially the South Sea islands, where child geniuses are popping up in spades:
I will provide videos of very young girls who are on par with Mozart, if you haven't seen them, not to mention wickedly bright guitarists and musicians who play so well, some of them without any training at all, that it's absolutely fuc.k.ing baffling. There are at least two excellent guitarists from those islands that play left-handed, with the strings strung upside down (fat E string closest to the floor), like blues legend Albert Collins, and several other big names, like Coco Montoya, and the guitarist who has recently played with Roger Waters. That's the way [uh-huh uh huh] I learned to play, without a single lesson, all by ear, knowing NADA about scales, or formal notation.
Did y'all, or anyone, know that Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull
composes everything in his head? UM would say mind, and so would I, and then, a few peeps here would get their knickers in a twist.
Take Mozart. "It's all in here (poking at his head), the rest is scribbling..." - dynamite quote from the film Amadeus. And reliable.
Y'all can read up on Salieri if you'd like. He was jealous, at first, but at great length, and especially at the end of his life, he at least respected Mozart, and especially Mozart's in-FOOOking'-credible music. In my unschooled and yet, perhaps not so humble opinion, Salieri was a fine composer, but nowhere near Mozart, not even when Wolfie was a child. He knew it.
Listen to the 13th Symphony. A perfect example of Mozart's genius. Some credit the work to others, like Haydn, or even Michael Haydn, Joseph's lesser known but equally talented brother; but I believe it to be Mozart's, because I've heard both Haydns — and their work, although wonderful, does not rise IMhO to the level of Mozart's, not even up to Wolfie's early compositions.
"Too many notes. Um-hm. Too many notes." - a royal personage with NO entitlement to judge the work of a genius - at which point young Wolfie opens a can of serious whoop ass.
Perhaps science, as Sub has told me, is not the only discipline qualified to speak about such matters?
Certainly, or as certain as we can be, philosophers are equipped to deal with the most profound ideas: I offer you Plato, Aristotle, Anselm, Aquinas, Augustine, Boethius, etc. The list would require several pages, even in small print, and that's not even touching on the GREAT minds in Arabia, (Islam) India, Burma, China, Japan, and especially the South Sea islands, where child geniuses are popping up in spades:
I will provide videos of very young girls who are on par with Mozart, if you haven't seen them, not to mention wickedly bright guitarists and musicians who play so well, some of them without any training at all, that it's absolutely fuc.k.ing baffling. There are at least two excellent guitarists from those islands that play left-handed, with the strings strung upside down (fat E string closest to the floor), like blues legend Albert Collins, and several other big names, like Coco Montoya, and the guitarist who has recently played with Roger Waters. That's the way [uh-huh uh huh] I learned to play, without a single lesson, all by ear, knowing NADA about scales, or formal notation.
Did y'all, or anyone, know that Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull
(yeah I know that man gets lots of hate and stick [stole 'stick' from Subsie] has no grasp at all of formal musical notation? And yet, he has perfect pitch - as Dee Palmer, formerly David Palmer, of London's Royal Academy of music attests to, and who was a member of Tull for a few years and transcribed a lot of Mr. Anderson's amazing compositions into formal notation - )
composes everything in his head? UM would say mind, and so would I, and then, a few peeps here would get their knickers in a twist.
Take Mozart. "It's all in here (poking at his head), the rest is scribbling..." - dynamite quote from the film Amadeus. And reliable.
Y'all can read up on Salieri if you'd like. He was jealous, at first, but at great length, and especially at the end of his life, he at least respected Mozart, and especially Mozart's in-FOOOking'-credible music. In my unschooled and yet, perhaps not so humble opinion, Salieri was a fine composer, but nowhere near Mozart, not even when Wolfie was a child. He knew it.
Listen to the 13th Symphony. A perfect example of Mozart's genius. Some credit the work to others, like Haydn, or even Michael Haydn, Joseph's lesser known but equally talented brother; but I believe it to be Mozart's, because I've heard both Haydns — and their work, although wonderful, does not rise IMhO to the level of Mozart's, not even up to Wolfie's early compositions.
"Too many notes. Um-hm. Too many notes." - a royal personage with NO entitlement to judge the work of a genius - at which point young Wolfie opens a can of serious whoop ass.
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