Black Lives Matter Way Too Much

[ksen]

Kerrick is the one that tased Ferrell?

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Already asked and answered

is this hate?

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Yes.

I hate it. I hate it every time people die senselessly. Don't you?

This woman has a child in jail who she has written off. Now she has to live with that, she has to make righteous her decision to no longer help her child. There is a lot of pain there and anger. But I guess you didn't see that, to busy looking for the gotcha moment.

"See, she is black and she says its ok for the police to kill unarmed black people." That is what the BLM movement is about. Unless your point is that all BLM protests are about armed men in shoot outs with the police, is that your point? the whole movement is now wrong and should cease? People of conscience should just shut the hell up about police shootings?

Tell me, does showing this woman with tears in her eyes and a cry in her voice make you feel righteous? make you feel right.

Is this woman's torment a good thing for you?

She is in hell right now and all she has left is hate, it is all she has to rationalize her choices in her own life.

it's grief porn. But if it makes a point, who cares? Right?

That's not a rebuttal of her points.

I wasn't asked too.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

No. He was running at a dark area between two sets of headlights.



not in the opinion of the other two cops who did not feel any need to draw their guns...

A dark area between two sets of headlights is irrelevant. You do not "retreat" towards the threat!

You also don't taser civilians that aren't threats either.

 

[Godless Raven]

Loren....couldn't you just start one thread, ask the admin to sticky it and title it "FUCKING NIGGERS!!!"

I mean, it's just a suggestion...you'd probably reduce your post count from +100,000 down to about 14. Just a thought.

 

[Derec]

What are the numbers, and what does that have to do with what I said?

I linked to the FBI numbers numerous times. As to what they had to do with what you said, you were going on how BLM is all about blacks killed by whites. Given how more than twice as many whites are killed by blacks than vice versa that seems a but disingenuous.

Again, what does this have to do with what I said?

BLM uses "unarmed" as reason to claim that a shooting was automatically unjustified.

Again, what does this have to do with what I said?

Again, it's about your statements about BLM.

Oh White Fragility, thy name is Derec.

Oh casual racism, thy name is Athena!

No, it doesn't

Yes it does. For example it says that whites were responsible for a small majority of "gang-related murders" without saying that because whites have been more than 70% of population over that time whites are strongly underrepresented among such murderers.

Which has what to do with white on white crime?

Everything! Yes, most crime is intraracial, including homicides. But the overall level of crime is much lower (again, five times which is a huge difference!) for whites than it is for blacks, which makes black on black homicides a much bigger problem.

So let me get this straight, you take the joke about black people drinking only on porches seriously,

That was a joke? Wasn't funny.

and dismiss the FACT that 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. Or do you just not want to do anything about white people killing white people?

Again, the homicide rate is much lower.

Black Americans Are Killed At 12 Times The Rate Of People In Other Developed Countries

 

[Godless Raven]

So...black American's are way more likely to be killed than other races in the US...but whenever there is a thread about how black American's are being murdered, the same motley crew shows up to defend whomever killed them.

This is bizarre. I feel like when I was in my 20's and experimenting with mushrooms. If the usual suspects had their way, the homicide rate of black American's would be about 0.00001 % on this chart, since they are mainly causing their own deaths due to whether they ever smoked weed or skipped school.

 

[Derec]

So...black American's are way more likely to be killed than other races in the US...but whenever there is a thread about how black American's are being murdered, the same motley crew shows up to defend whomever killed them.

Black American's what? [/grammar nazi]
Vast majority of blacks are killed by other black civilians. Yet BLM seems to care primarily about the relatively small numbers of blacks killed by either police or white civilians.
Note that people defend police shootings because they are usually justified - Michael Brown attacked the cop after robbing a store, Andre Green rammed a carjacked car into a police vehicle and also had a gun, Nicholas Thomas tried to run over police trying to serve a warrant with a stolen Maserati.

This is bizarre. I feel like when I was in my 20's and experimenting with mushrooms. If the usual suspects had their way, the homicide rate of black American's would be about 0.00001 % on this chart, since they are mainly causing their own deaths due to whether they ever smoked weed or skipped school.

I think you need to lay off the shrooms.

 

[Godless Raven]

Black American's what? [/grammar nazi]
Vast majority of blacks are killed by other black civilians. Yet BLM seems to care primarily about the relatively small numbers of blacks killed by either police or white civilians.
Note that people defend police shootings because they are usually justified - Michael Brown attacked the cop after robbing a store, Andre Green rammed a carjacked car into a police vehicle and also had a gun, Nicholas Thomas tried to run over police trying to serve a warrant with a stolen Maserati.

This is bizarre. I feel like when I was in my 20's and experimenting with mushrooms. If the usual suspects had their way, the homicide rate of black American's would be about 0.00001 % on this chart, since they are mainly causing their own deaths due to whether they ever smoked weed or skipped school.

I think you need to lay off the shrooms.

Well, how can a black person resist killing another black person? Especially if they ever possessed stolen goods, drank an energy drink or smoked weed. Do you think black on black murders are not justified, but whenever a white cop or Zimmerman-esque lunatic murders a black person, it's because of what they did in the past? Or do you think a good percentage of those black on black crimes are probably really justified for the same reasons?? Both? I'm confused.

I mean it was only a couple of weeks ago we watched video of a University cop shoot a pothead in the head for trying to drive away during questioning and that was defended. So what's wrong with a black person killing another black person if they also don't like the way they drove away during a conversation?

I'm trying to work with you here so we can use special logic to make your chart look a lot more believable. If we dig deep enough in to each so called "victim"s past, we could probably get black homicides in the US between Slovania and Bahrain. I'm trying to work with you here, help me out brother.

Thanks for the grammar correction, I do not take any offense to being corrected...within reason!!

Honestly, sometimes when I read comments on these type of topics, I wish I did still do mushrooms, so I could pretend it didn't really happen (for the 118,000+ time ) Also, luckily, I'm not black, so cops can't shoot me for doing those shrooms 20 years ago. Shweew! Dodged a big bad assed stand ur fuckin' ground bullet there!

For the record...off topic, I think what BLM did to Bernie's attempted speech was pretty fucking dumb and repulsive.

 

[Ford]

Vast majority of blacks are killed by other black civilians. Yet BLM seems to care primarily about the relatively small numbers of blacks killed by either police or white civilians.

The number one cause of death in the United States is heart disease.

Number nine is kidney disease.

More than 10 times as many people are killed by the former. Kidney disease claims a fraction of the lives that heart disease does.

By your reasoning kidney disease isn't that much of a problem.

 

[laughing dog]

Vast majority of blacks are killed by other black civilians. Yet BLM seems to care primarily about the relatively small numbers of blacks killed by either police or white civilians.

The number one cause of death in the United States is heart disease.

Number nine is kidney disease.

More than 10 times as many people are killed by the former. Kidney disease claims a fraction of the lives that heart disease does.

By your reasoning kidney disease isn't that much of a problem.

Especially if you do not have to worry about it (i.e. be a white person).

 

[barbos]

The number one cause of death in the United States is heart disease.

Number nine is kidney disease.

More than 10 times as many people are killed by the former. Kidney disease claims a fraction of the lives that heart disease does.

By your reasoning kidney disease isn't that much of a problem.

Especially if you do not have to worry about it (i.e. be a white person).

Number one killer is old age and I prefer to die from it.
Also I prefer heart attack death over being shot death.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

I linked to the FBI numbers numerous times. As to what they had to do with what you said, you were going on how BLM is all about blacks killed by whites. Given how more than twice as many whites are killed by blacks than vice versa that seems a but disingenuous.

Again, what does this have to do with what I said?

BLM uses "unarmed" as reason to claim that a shooting was automatically unjustified.

Again, what does this have to do with what I said?

Again, it's about your statements about BLM.

Oh White Fragility, thy name is Derec.

Oh casual racism, thy name is Athena!

No, it doesn't

Yes it does. For example it says that whites were responsible for a small majority of "gang-related murders" without saying that because whites have been more than 70% of population over that time whites are strongly underrepresented among such murderers.

Which has what to do with white on white crime?

Everything! Yes, most crime is intraracial, including homicides. But the overall level of crime is much lower (again, five times which is a huge difference!) for whites than it is for blacks, which makes black on black homicides a much bigger problem.

So let me get this straight, you take the joke about black people drinking only on porches seriously,

That was a joke? Wasn't funny.

and dismiss the FACT that 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. Or do you just not want to do anything about white people killing white people?

Again, the homicide rate is much lower.

Black Americans Are Killed At 12 Times The Rate Of People In Other Developed Countries

Derec,

Cancer and diabetes kill thousands of people a year, correct?

If I decide to do discuss cancer and how cancer kills, I am not obligated to discuss diabetes. And giving me stats on diabetes won't change the fact that cancer kills.

or if I discuss ALS. MS, Polio, Hemophilia, or any other deadly condition.

SO AGAIN

what does that have to do with what I said?

 

[laughing dog]

what does that have to do with what I said?

Nothing. It is just a diversion from the issue. For some reason, people are not supposed to protest perceived gov't wrongdoing when there is something worse in the private sector.

 

[untermensche]

Oh my, a presidential candidate was shouted down.

The horror.

The sheep are not supposed to do that.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Oh my, a presidential candidate was shouted down.

The horror.

The sheep are not supposed to do that.

The what would be called "irony" by many is that in shooting down Sanders, it really exposed how little they know about the candidate. More to the point, some of the BLM seem to be holding the text blacklivesmatter as an idol. That if they don't hear those words, or the exact words they are looking for, then the candidate doesn't care.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Oh my, a presidential candidate was shouted down.

The horror.

The sheep are not supposed to do that.

The what would be called "irony" by many is that in shooting down Sanders, it really exposed how little they know about the candidate. More to the point, some of the BLM seem to be holding the text blacklivesmatter as an idol. That if they don't hear those words, or the exact words they are looking for, then the candidate doesn't care.

I'll laugh a little if I hear the BLM people start endorsing the Republican candidate because Sanders and Hillary won't say the words "Black Lives Matter". Then I'll cry a little.

 

[Togo]

Oh my, a presidential candidate was shouted down.

The horror.

The sheep are not supposed to do that.

The what would be called "irony" by many is that in shooting down Sanders, it really exposed how little they know about the candidate. More to the point, some of the BLM seem to be holding the text blacklivesmatter as an idol. That if they don't hear those words, or the exact words they are looking for, then the candidate doesn't care.

They'd probably be right. The point of a single issue campaign is that they can, rather than sifting candidates by relative merit, can condemn all candidates for lack of action. Black people are killed a lot. When they die, there is less reaction then when a white person dies. Less reaction from police, less reaction from the courts, less reaction from politicians, less reaction from the media, less reaction from the public. It's not about due process, or new laws, or better procedures. These all exist, but the issue isn't considered important enough to use them to the full extent. It's that not caring isn't acceptable any more.

From that point of view, the idea that the issue is that people aren't making enough of a noise about this issue, aren't really trying to change anything, then whether or not the candidate cares isn't the issue. What matters is whether or not the candidate speaks out about it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The what would be called "irony" by many is that in shooting down Sanders, it really exposed how little they know about the candidate. More to the point, some of the BLM seem to be holding the text blacklivesmatter as an idol. That if they don't hear those words, or the exact words they are looking for, then the candidate doesn't care.

They'd probably be right. The point of a single issue campaign is that they can, rather than sifting candidates by relative merit, can condemn all candidates for lack of action. Black people are killed a lot. When they die, there is less reaction then when a white person dies. Less reaction from police, less reaction from the courts, less reaction from politicians, less reaction from the media, less reaction from the public. It's not about due process, or new laws, or better procedures. These all exist, but the issue isn't considered important enough to use them to the full extent. It's that not caring isn't acceptable any more.

From that point of view, the idea that the issue is that people aren't making enough of a noise about this issue, aren't really trying to change anything, then whether or not the candidate cares isn't the issue. What matters is whether or not the candidate speaks out about it.

Sanders says the US Prison system has to be greatly reformed. Some with BLM protests because Sanders doesn't say black lives matter. Once again, an idol of a buzz phrase over substance.

 

[Togo]

They'd probably be right. The point of a single issue campaign is that they can, rather than sifting candidates by relative merit, can condemn all candidates for lack of action. Black people are killed a lot. When they die, there is less reaction then when a white person dies. Less reaction from police, less reaction from the courts, less reaction from politicians, less reaction from the media, less reaction from the public. It's not about due process, or new laws, or better procedures. These all exist, but the issue isn't considered important enough to use them to the full extent. It's that not caring isn't acceptable any more.

From that point of view, the idea that the issue is that people aren't making enough of a noise about this issue, aren't really trying to change anything, then whether or not the candidate cares isn't the issue. What matters is whether or not the candidate speaks out about it.

Sanders says the US Prison system has to be greatly reformed. Some with BLM protests because Sanders doesn't say black lives matter. Once again, an idol of a buzz phrase over substance.

But it's not substance. Yes, prison reform is a good thing, but it's not going to change the overall situation. The overall situation is the federal state and local authorities and their political representatives pay less attention to black lives than white ones. Your favoured candidate may well care about the issue, but he's not proposing to change the status quo.

People who wanted slaves treated better were not natural allies of those who wanted to abolish slavery.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Sanders says the US Prison system has to be greatly reformed. Some with BLM protests because Sanders doesn't say black lives matter. Once again, an idol of a buzz phrase over substance.

But it's not substance. Yes, prison reform is a good thing, but it's not going to change the overall situation.

It could have a massive difference. There aren't many parts of the justice system that aren't quite stacked against the poorer in the nation.

The overall situation is the federal state and local authorities and their political representatives pay less attention to black lives than white ones. Your favoured candidate may well care about the issue, but he's not proposing to change the status quo.

Realigning the Justice System would be a major change to the status quo.

People who wanted slaves treated better were not natural allies of those who wanted to abolish slavery.

That analogy is a bit flat.