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A few hours after voting to extend their airstrikes into Syria, Britain has bombed some oil fields controlled by ISIS.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uk-vote-airstrikes-syria-1.3346589

My question when reading this was why does ISIS have some oil fields under its control which haven't already been bombed? Given that they're the major source of revenue for ISIS to do all the stuff it's doing, why were these not targets on the first day at the same time that ISIS's corporate accounts at Citibank were frozen?

It would seem to be an obvious initial step to blow these up right at the beginning and then have a few drones on standby around them to drop a missile ontop of anyone who drives near the rubble.
 

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1) Bombing oil fields just creates more terrorists. Or is it more oilfields?

2) At first they probably figured they were going to get the oil fields back pretty quick
 

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2) At first they probably figured they were going to get the oil fields back pretty quick

OK, that makes sense. No need to start firing off a bazooka if you think you're there to swat some roaches. Even so, one would think that the "Hey, this is taking more than a week. Maybe we should stop them from getting billions of dollars to arm themselves with" conversation would have taken place a couple of months ago.

I just think it's weird that a group with zero air power and is funded mainly be selling oil still has working oil fields at this point. If ISIS wants money, they should get some Saudi Arabian prince to sell one of his yachts and maybe only bring ten high priced escorts to his cousin's birthday party. They shouldn't just be getting some Turkish guy to give them cash for an easily destroyable product.
 

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It's probably also difficult to figure who is in charge of bombing what over there these days. Russians, French, British, US and who know who else are all bombing something. Maybe this fell through the cracks.
 

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It's probably also difficult to figure who is in charge of bombing what over there these days. Russians, French, British, US and who know who else are all bombing something. Maybe this fell through the cracks.

Practical problem. Oil fields are in Sunni territory who got screwed by Shia government in the first place. Bomb them and all Daesh has left are Sunni people to to take stuff.

I hear it all now.

"Its oil damn it. we need it." group

versus

"If we do it Daesh will only have their associates the Sunni from whom to take stuff".

I know this doesn't look like two sides, but, that's the US MIC for you.
 

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It's probably also difficult to figure who is in charge of bombing what over there these days. Russians, French, British, US and who know who else are all bombing something. Maybe this fell through the cracks.

Practical problem. Oil fields are in Sunni territory who got screwed by Shia government in the first place. Bomb them and all Daesh has left are Sunni people to to take stuff.

I hear it all now.

"Its oil damn it. we need it." group

versus

"If we do it Daesh will only have their associates the Sunni from whom to take stuff".

I know this doesn't look like two sides, but, that's the US MIC for you.

Underneath all this subterfuge....a thick smelly black substance that can be turned into GASOLINE and plastic. This is not and has not ever been about anything but who controlls the oil. It has not been about freedom for these people or justice for the head loppers or well being for anybody but the oil moguls and the defense industries. This is a tired old model of foreign relations that have NEVER WORKED in behalf of peace...it is entirely sponsored and powered by oil. Western interests destabilizing these countries has set back their civilization perhaps 100 years when they desperately need to be catching up with the rest of the world. Good development cannot ever occur during foreign domination for anybody. The Brits jumping in could only be expected from Brown...that is what HIS HANDLERS WANT.
 

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Practical problem. Oil fields are in Sunni territory who got screwed by Shia government in the first place. Bomb them and all Daesh has left are Sunni people to to take stuff.

I hear it all now.

"Its oil damn it. we need it." group

versus

"If we do it Daesh will only have their associates the Sunni from whom to take stuff".

I know this doesn't look like two sides, but, that's the US MIC for you.

Underneath all this subterfuge....a thick smelly black substance that can be turned into GASOLINE and plastic. This is not and has not ever been about anything but who controlls the oil. It has not been about freedom for these people or justice for the head loppers or well being for anybody but the oil moguls and the defense industries. This is a tired old model of foreign relations that have NEVER WORKED in behalf of peace...it is entirely sponsored and powered by oil. Western interests destabilizing these countries has set back their civilization perhaps 100 years when they desperately need to be catching up with the rest of the world. Good development cannot ever occur during foreign domination for anybody. The Brits jumping in could only be expected from Brown...that is what HIS HANDLERS WANT.

You do know that Gordon Brown and his political party have not been in power in the UK for over five years now?

Perhaps we should be blaming Clement Atlee's handlers too?
 

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It is difficult these days to figure out who is in charge of the British people these days....Cameron. They are all cardboard cutout politicians anyway. British leadership is so lack luster it is hard to stay abreast. You could have expected this type of thing from Blair too. Britain has been led by a continuous string of war mongers ever since Churchill and I am sure you could have expected this sort of thing in spades from him too.
 

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2) At first they probably figured they were going to get the oil fields back pretty quick

OK, that makes sense. No need to start firing off a bazooka if you think you're there to swat some roaches. Even so, one would think that the "Hey, this is taking more than a week. Maybe we should stop them from getting billions of dollars to arm themselves with" conversation would have taken place a couple of months ago.

I just think it's weird that a group with zero air power and is funded mainly be selling oil still has working oil fields at this point. If ISIS wants money, they should get some Saudi Arabian prince to sell one of his yachts and maybe only bring ten high priced escorts to his cousin's birthday party. They shouldn't just be getting some Turkish guy to give them cash for an easily destroyable product.
A former CIA deputy director said a couple of days ago they didn't do it because they didn't want to cause environmental problems

Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/TgMgjPzXqg4[/YOUTUBE]
 

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Well, the guy who wrote that article is a lunatic. Doesn't change him being right about the key points amidst his crazy ramblings, though.
 

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A few hours after voting to extend their airstrikes into Syria, Britain has bombed some oil fields controlled by ISIS.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uk-vote-airstrikes-syria-1.3346589

My question when reading this was why does ISIS have some oil fields under its control which haven't already been bombed? Given that they're the major source of revenue for ISIS to do all the stuff it's doing, why were these not targets on the first day at the same time that ISIS's corporate accounts at Citibank were frozen?

It would seem to be an obvious initial step to blow these up right at the beginning and then have a few drones on standby around them to drop a missile ontop of anyone who drives near the rubble.
You are assuming that defeating ISIS has been the goal. I think this assumption is what makes it hard to understand.
Before ISIS even existed in Syria or anywhere "we" had plans for Syria. We had a goal for Syria. The appearance of ISIS did not change those plans.

So the question could be..."Why would we change plans we have had just because ISIS is now there?"

Or I could ask.."what led you to believe that plans changed, and the goal became getting rid of ISIS?"
 

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It is difficult these days to figure out who is in charge of the British people these days....Cameron. They are all cardboard cutout politicians anyway.
It's not that difficult really. Just requires a little effort and the realisation that there is a world beyond the US borders.
British leadership is so lack luster it is hard to stay abreast. You could have expected this type of thing from Blair too. Britain has been led by a continuous string of war mongers ever since Churchill and I am sure you could have expected this sort of thing in spades from him too.
Yes that John Major chap was such a war monger. Had you heard of John Major?
 

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As doctor Strangelove would say: "Ride em cowboys!" Like that area really needs another set of heavy hands distributing destruction. This escalation of bombing...I predict because the results are so certain having been repeated already in several ME lands: IT WILL NOT WORK AND ONLY MAKE CONDITIONS WORSE AND PEACE LESS APT TO FOLLOW IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
 

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A few hours after voting to extend their airstrikes into Syria, Britain has bombed some oil fields controlled by ISIS.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uk-vote-airstrikes-syria-1.3346589

My question when reading this was why does ISIS have some oil fields under its control which haven't already been bombed? Given that they're the major source of revenue for ISIS to do all the stuff it's doing, why were these not targets on the first day at the same time that ISIS's corporate accounts at Citibank were frozen?

It would seem to be an obvious initial step to blow these up right at the beginning and then have a few drones on standby around them to drop a missile ontop of anyone who drives near the rubble.
You are assuming that defeating ISIS has been the goal. I think this assumption is what makes it hard to understand.
Before ISIS even existed in Syria or anywhere "we" had plans for Syria. We had a goal for Syria. The appearance of ISIS did not change those plans.

So the question could be..."Why would we change plans we have had just because ISIS is now there?"

Or I could ask.."what led you to believe that plans changed, and the goal became getting rid of ISIS?"
What do you think the plan was?
 

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You are assuming that defeating ISIS has been the goal. I think this assumption is what makes it hard to understand.
Before ISIS even existed in Syria or anywhere "we" had plans for Syria. We had a goal for Syria. The appearance of ISIS did not change those plans.

So the question could be..."Why would we change plans we have had just because ISIS is now there?"

Or I could ask.."what led you to believe that plans changed, and the goal became getting rid of ISIS?"
What do you think the plan was?
To get rid of Assad, and put someone else in power. That is the short answer
 

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A few hours after voting to extend their airstrikes into Syria, Britain has bombed some oil fields controlled by ISIS.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/uk-vote-airstrikes-syria-1.3346589

My question when reading this was why does ISIS have some oil fields under its control which haven't already been bombed? Given that they're the major source of revenue for ISIS to do all the stuff it's doing, why were these not targets on the first day at the same time that ISIS's corporate accounts at Citibank were frozen?

It's best to avoid bombing them if it's still possible to capture them yourself.
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The British probably figured it would be better to cut off their cash flow and build in a little than risk ISIS cashing up to Marauder tanks. Also, apparently they've got a Doctor Thrax working for them... more important to slow them down.

Basic military strategy, man.
 
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