Can Muslims be as "Redneck" as White Southerners?

[Cheerful Charlie]

What does 'being redneck' mean, exactly?

Second this. We have to define what the term really means before we can see who qualifies beyond rural white southerners.

What's the difference between a redneck and good ol' boy? The good ol' boy throws his empty beer cans into the bed of his pickup truck.

 

[dismal]

To be fair, nigger is a slur intended for and widely used against all blacks for being black. So you using it in your own unique way doesn't eliminate the harm your use does in promoting racial bigotry. Redneck was not coined nor is it used to refer to whites generally for being white. Its meaning is to refer to people who say, do, and think (or not think) various things, with their whiteness just signalling a sub-group of people with those qualities.

The centrality of race to the basis for the slur matters.

This relates to the OP in that if race is tangential and minimal in the basis for the negative connotation, then the core meaning of the concept can and does apply to other groups, and since being Muslim refers to many of the same intolerant anti-intellectualism that defines the Islamic religion, then it might be meaningful and apt to draw an analogy that Muslims are the rednecks of the Arabic world.

The only red necks I know have air boats and large wheeled vehicles for navigating the swamps searching for 'gators. Most of them feel complimented when you call them a Red Neck.

Those sound like coon-asses.

 

[arkirk]

Second this. We have to define what the term really means before we can see who qualifies beyond rural white southerners.

What's the difference between a redneck and good ol' boy? The good ol' boy throws his empty beer cans into the bed of his pickup truck.

But the redneck is in better shape for all his manual labor.

 

[untermensche]

The only red necks I know have air boats and large wheeled vehicles for navigating the swamps searching for 'gators. Most of them feel complimented when you call them a Red Neck. Now these are really neat people who make shine and just don't like socializing with people in Miami or St. Petersburg. Their necks are usually red too. So cut out the mixing of red necks with racists.

So it's the neck?

That's why you call them rednecks?

Everybody can have their own personal definition I suppose, but there are some more common than others. And commonly it is defined as people who display the Confederate flag prominently and don't like black people very much, simply for being black people. These people exist.

And perhaps there are some who don't want the word defined in any way.

 

[fromderinside]

The only red necks I know have air boats and large wheeled vehicles for navigating the swamps searching for 'gators. Most of them feel complimented when you call them a Red Neck. Now these are really neat people who make shine and just don't like socializing with people in Miami or St. Petersburg. Their necks are usually red too. So cut out the mixing of red necks with racists.

So it's the neck?

That's why you call them rednecks?

Everybody can have their own personal definition I suppose, but there are some more common than others. And commonly it is defined as people who display the Confederate flag prominently and don't like black people very much, simply for being black people. These people exist.

And perhaps there are some who don't want the word defined in any way.

Go to Florida where the the term originated. Others have taken to calling themselves red neck who may demonstrate bigotry and they may be the target of those who are calling names. Still. Lay off the red necks. Find a name like, say, Klan'r, southern white derelict, or other more apt term if you want to participate in your racist behavior.

 

[dismal]

The only red necks I know have air boats and large wheeled vehicles for navigating the swamps searching for 'gators. Most of them feel complimented when you call them a Red Neck. Now these are really neat people who make shine and just don't like socializing with people in Miami or St. Petersburg. Their necks are usually red too. So cut out the mixing of red necks with racists.

So it's the neck?

That's why you call them rednecks?

Everybody can have their own personal definition I suppose, but there are some more common than others. And commonly it is defined as people who display the Confederate flag prominently and don't like black people very much, simply for being black people. These people exist.

And perhaps there are some who don't want the word defined in any way.

That's not how redneck is typically defined at all.

You're so ignorant you just might be a redneck.

 

[fromderinside]

So it's the neck?

That's why you call them rednecks?




Everybody can have their own personal definition I suppose, but there are some more common than others. And commonly it is defined as people who display the Confederate flag prominently and don't like black people very much, simply for being black people. These people exist.

And perhaps there are some who don't want the word defined in any way.

That's not how redneck is typically defined at all.

You're so ignorant you just might be a redneck.

You agreeing with me Willis?

 

[untermensche]

So it's the neck?

That's why you call them rednecks?

Everybody can have their own personal definition I suppose, but there are some more common than others. And commonly it is defined as people who display the Confederate flag prominently and don't like black people very much, simply for being black people. These people exist.

And perhaps there are some who don't want the word defined in any way.

That's not how redneck is typically defined at all.

You're so ignorant you just might be a redneck.

Sure it is.

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So it's the neck?

That's why you call them rednecks?

Everybody can have their own personal definition I suppose, but there are some more common than others. And commonly it is defined as people who display the Confederate flag prominently and don't like black people very much, simply for being black people. These people exist.

And perhaps there are some who don't want the word defined in any way.

Go to Florida where the the term originated. Others have taken to calling themselves red neck who may demonstrate bigotry and they may be the target of those who are calling names. Still. Lay off the red necks. Find a name like, say, Klan'r, southern white derelict, or other more apt term if you want to participate in your racist behavior.

So saying that racists exist is in itself racist behavior?

How convenient for the racists.

 

[dismal]

That's not how redneck is typically defined at all.

You're so ignorant you just might be a redneck.

You agreeing with me Willis?

I agree with you that most people who think of themselves as rednecks don't think the term has much to do with racism or politics. It's more of a set of lifestyle choices.

 

[Bronzeage]

That is a direct address to your words. Qualifying your prejudice by saying you reserve it for the deserving does not reduce the bigotry.

Bigotry against ignorance is a bigotry I defend.

Paint it any color you like. You have judged an entire group as "ignorant" based on their color and geography because you perceive some kind of disagreement between yourself and this group of people.

This is really no different than the effete pseudo intellectuals who profess no hostility toward black people, but distinguish proper black people from niggers, who of course are ignorant black people, who are not confined to any region.

 

[untermensche]

Bigotry against ignorance is a bigotry I defend.

Paint it any color you like. You have judged an entire group as "ignorant" based on their color and geography because you perceive some kind of disagreement between yourself and this group of people.

This is really no different than the effete pseudo intellectuals who profess no hostility toward black people, but distinguish proper black people from niggers, who of course are ignorant black people, who are not confined to any region.

I have done no such thing.

I have defined a word.

 

[fromderinside]

I have defined a word.

Very badly.......

 

[dismal]

Paint it any color you like. You have judged an entire group as "ignorant" based on their color and geography because you perceive some kind of disagreement between yourself and this group of people.

This is really no different than the effete pseudo intellectuals who profess no hostility toward black people, but distinguish proper black people from niggers, who of course are ignorant black people, who are not confined to any region.

I have done no such thing.

I have defined a word.

The word already has meaning in the culture in which it arose and exists.

You are attempting to culturally misappropriate it.

 

[untermensche]

I have done no such thing.

I have defined a word.

The word already has meaning in the culture in which it arose and exists.

You are attempting to culturally misappropriate it.

You mean:

The origins of this term are Scottish and refer to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, or Covenanters, largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would flee Scotland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) during persecutions by the British Crown.

http://www.tartansauthority.com/global-scots/us-scots-history/hillbillies-and-rednecks/

 

[Bronzeage]

Paint it any color you like. You have judged an entire group as "ignorant" based on their color and geography because you perceive some kind of disagreement between yourself and this group of people.

This is really no different than the effete pseudo intellectuals who profess no hostility toward black people, but distinguish proper black people from niggers, who of course are ignorant black people, who are not confined to any region.

I have done no such thing.

I have defined a word.

And your words have defined you. Don't worry about it. I don't think less of you because of this.

 

[untermensche]

I have done no such thing.

I have defined a word.

And your words have defined you. Don't worry about it. I don't think less of you because of this.

Blah blah blah.

This could be said about any post on any matter.

It is vacuous.

 

[Bronzeage]

And your words have defined you. Don't worry about it. I don't think less of you because of this.

Blah blah blah.

This could be said about any post on any matter.

It is vacuous.

What did you expect from a redneck?

 

[untermensche]

Blah blah blah.

This could be said about any post on any matter.

It is vacuous.

What did you expect from a redneck?

That is nothing I have called you.

 

[Bronzeage]

What did you expect from a redneck?

That is nothing I have called you.

I am a redneck, born of redneck parents and you say rednecks are ignorant southerners. You are perfectly free to your opinion that I am ignorant and there's no disputing that I do live in the south.

You nailed it.

 

[untermensche]

That is nothing I have called you.

I am a redneck, born of redneck parents and you say rednecks are ignorant southerners. You are perfectly free to your opinion that I am ignorant and there's no disputing that I do live in the south.

You nailed it.

I say the word redneck is defined that way by many.

I say nothing about your family I don't know in the least.

Your insatiable desire for victim hood is noted.