Capitol Bldg in Lockdown... again

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Insurrections, mass shootings, mentally insane rampages. I just don't think I have anything left for these issues.

 

[untermensche]

Insurrections, mass shootings, mentally insane rampages. I just don't think I have anything left for these issues.

An insurrection based on lies about an election is easy to dismiss as a bunch of pathetic losers that can't tell lies from the truth. And some power hungry brutes that have been brainwashing these pathetic losers for years.

Qanon is proof many Americans have absolutely no ability to discern insane lies from truth.

A democracy will not last long if there are enough uneducated lost minds that can be exploited by those mad for power.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...f75802-93fe-11eb-a74e-1f4cf89fd948_story.html

If this narrative is even half right, then it seems that this was one of those suicide by cops kind of things Loren is always talking about.

What a tragedy that this young man was not given the help he so desperately needed and that he and a law enforcement officer lost their lives.

Now will you accept that suicide by cop is a very real thing? Kill a cop with other cops around and come out with a knife in hand, what other outcome could you expect? If it wasn't suicide why the knife?

 

[Toni]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...f75802-93fe-11eb-a74e-1f4cf89fd948_story.html

If this narrative is even half right, then it seems that this was one of those suicide by cops kind of things Loren is always talking about.

What a tragedy that this young man was not given the help he so desperately needed and that he and a law enforcement officer lost their lives.

Now will you accept that suicide by cop is a very real thing? Kill a cop with other cops around and come out with a knife in hand, what other outcome could you expect? If it wasn't suicide why the knife?

Oh I know it’s a real thing and I honestly think that suicide was the entire motivation of this obviously very desperately disturbed young man if the article I linked is accurate. But I do think that it is often claimed to be the motivation of people, often unarmed and not violent, who end up dead at the hands of police. And yeah, I think you trot out the entire suicide by cop excuse for police killings far too often.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...f75802-93fe-11eb-a74e-1f4cf89fd948_story.html

If this narrative is even half right, then it seems that this was one of those suicide by cops kind of things Loren is always talking about.

What a tragedy that this young man was not given the help he so desperately needed and that he and a law enforcement officer lost their lives.

Now will you accept that suicide by cop is a very real thing? Kill a cop with other cops around and come out with a knife in hand, what other outcome could you expect? If it wasn't suicide why the knife?

Oh I know it’s a real thing and I honestly think that suicide was the entire motivation of this obviously very desperately disturbed young man if the article I linked is accurate. But I do think that it is often claimed to be the motivation of people, often unarmed and not violent, who end up dead at the hands of police. And yeah, I think you trot out the entire suicide by cop excuse for police killings far too often.

I look for the scenario that is least astonishing and fits the known facts.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Oh I know it’s a real thing and I honestly think that suicide was the entire motivation of this obviously very desperately disturbed young man if the article I linked is accurate. But I do think that it is often claimed to be the motivation of people, often unarmed and not violent, who end up dead at the hands of police. And yeah, I think you trot out the entire suicide by cop excuse for police killings far too often.

I look for the scenario that is least astonishing and fits the known facts.

Suicide by cop is not least astonishing the vast majority it is claimed.

 

[Patooka]

Oh I know it’s a real thing and I honestly think that suicide was the entire motivation of this obviously very desperately disturbed young man if the article I linked is accurate. But I do think that it is often claimed to be the motivation of people, often unarmed and not violent, who end up dead at the hands of police. And yeah, I think you trot out the entire suicide by cop excuse for police killings far too often.

I look for the scenario that is least astonishing and fits the known facts.

Cops being trained in the art of killology ticks all those boxes quite nicely.

 

[Elixir]

Prediction: if the attacker turns out to be MAGA, mainstream media and people on here won't be able to shut up about it for months. If it turns out to be #BLM/Antifa/Muslim it will be quickly buried and Don Lemon will be "but January 6th ..."

Got up this AM... Faux Nooz is bleating about how MLB. Coca Cola and Delta are trying to destroy 'Murka, and giving oxygen to Donald Trump and Brian Kemp for trying to "strengthen elections"..
MSNBC is worried about the attack on the Capitol, and that the Capitol Police force is facing retirements and resignations.

Another Derec Prediction gone belly-up.

Meanwhile ... 7-day average for new COVID cases in the US is 63,471 as of Easter Sunday (which was unsurprisingly a daily record low since Sept 9 2020 at 36,983).

Haven't heard from zipr yet. @Derec ?

 

[Derec]

But I do think that it is often claimed to be the motivation of people, often unarmed and not violent, who end up dead at the hands of police. And yeah, I think you trot out the entire suicide by cop excuse for police killings far too often.

"Suicide by cop" is when a suicidal person wants to cause police to shoot him or her and effect that by threatening police with weapons. Like point a gun etc. I have not seen any cases where "unarmed and not violent" people have been called "suicide by cop".

That said, "suicide by cop" people rarely use actual violence, only believable threats of violence. They want to be killed, and thus behave in way that will get them killed, but rarely pull the trigger.

This guy is different, in that the actual violence was the first thing he did. So I do not think it was the classic "suicide by cop". It is to me more reminiscent of car rammings and knife attacks that have become popular among Palestinians over the last few years.
Example:
Israeli soldier injured in suspected Palestinian car ramming, knife attack

I do not deny Noah Green was a disturbed young man, but he was also a believer in a racist and Islamist ideology and that should not be discounted either.

 

[Derec]

Another Derec Prediction gone belly-up.

Not quite. I have seen some MSNBC and they have predictably been bringing it back to January 6th. Noah Green's terrorist attack is being downplayed.

 

[Derec]

Don Lemon is a fan:
CNN anchor told Farrakhan it was ‘honor’ to meet him in ‘amazing’ 2007 interview

CNN anchor Don Lemon once told Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan that it was an "honor and a pleasure" to meet him, in a gushing 2007 interview he later described as "amazing."
"Thank you again for doing this. It’s an honor and a pleasure to meet you," Lemon told the pastor, who has led a chant of "death to America" and called for a separate state for Black Americans.

So are several congresspeople, all Democrats.

Lemon is not the only one to have tread carefully around the preacher. Several Democratic members of Congress have known ties to Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., shared a stage with Farrakhan in 2011. After the event, Clyburn told the Final Call, the Nation of Islam's media arm, that he was "not bothered in the least bit" by people criticizing his appearance with Farrakhan.
ep. Danny Davis, D-Ill, praised Farrakhan in 2018 as "an outstanding human being" who "does outstanding things," while Georgia Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock has also spoken positively about Farrakhan's group.

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif, has longstanding ties to Farrakhan and was seen on video hugging the Nation of Islam leader.

Imagine if Republicans in Congress hugged somebody like David Duke ...

 

[Gospel]

When Derec posts I have to check the television to make sure I'm not missing a new episode of Bonanza, The Brady Bunch, F Troop, or Gilligan's Island. You're a blast from the past every time.

 

[Derec]

What do you mean, "blast from the past"?

A Farrakhan disciple attacked the Capitol recently. I think it is fair to point out people in Congress and in media who have praised him.

There are also Farrakhan fans among left wing activists lile Tamika Malory, a Women's March cofounder.

 

[Gospel]

What do you mean, "blast from the past"?

A Farrakhan disciple attacked the Capitol recently. I think it is fair to point out people in Congress and in media who have praised him.

There are also Farrakhan fans among left wing activists lile Tamika Malory, a Women's March cofounder.

Try bringing up Farrakhan to generation Z. I never liked Farrakhan to be honest with you. Pig-headed religious people tend to be more harmful than good for any cause they take a stake in. Farrakhan while many times hitting the nail on the head with his opinion and views is more often just inflammatory and lacking in the providing meaningful tools department than anything else. That's just me, so don't go around tapping every black person on the shoulder saying "the nerve of this guy huh?".

 

[Elixir]

What do you mean, "blast from the past"?

A Farrakhan disciple attacked the Capitol recently. I think it is fair to point out people in Congress and in media who have praised him.

There are also Farrakhan fans among left wing activists lile Tamika Malory, a Women's March cofounder.

Yeah - also...
Have you looked under your bed?

 

[Derec]

Yeah - also...
Have you looked under your bed?

Funny guy - not. Speaking of monsters under beds, you are always quick to start threads whenever there is a white shooter around, or at least somebody you think is a white shooter.
But nary a word is heard from you about Phillip Adams.
Former NFL player Phillip Adams kills five in South Carolina, then himself, authorities say

Or Fantahun Girma Woldesenbet.
Corpsman who shot two people in Maryland previously stationed at Camp Lejeune

 

[Derec]

Try bringing up Farrakhan to generation Z.

Tamika Mallory is not a Zoomer, but a Millennial, but I do not see why it should be different with Zoomers - racism is not confined to particular generations.

I never liked Farrakhan to be honest with you.

That's two of us. He has a lot of fans around here.
I once (year 1 BC - before Covid) accidentally took the Wesley Chapel exit off I-20 and some young guy (likely a Zoomer to think of it) tied to sell me Final Call. LMAO - know your audience, dude.

Farrakhan while many times hitting the nail on the head with his opinion and views

Care to give some examples? Is it his views on ancient black scientist Yakub or his opinions on the Jews where he, in your opinion, hits the nail on the head?

so don't go around tapping every black person on the shoulder saying "the nerve of this guy huh?".

Yeah, I don't do that anyway. I do it here, in a political discussion forum, which is designed for political discussions.

 

[Toni]

But I do think that it is often claimed to be the motivation of people, often unarmed and not violent, who end up dead at the hands of police. And yeah, I think you trot out the entire suicide by cop excuse for police killings far too often.

"Suicide by cop" is when a suicidal person wants to cause police to shoot him or her and effect that by threatening police with weapons. Like point a gun etc. I have not seen any cases where "unarmed and not violent" people have been called "suicide by cop".

That said, "suicide by cop" people rarely use actual violence, only believable threats of violence. They want to be killed, and thus behave in way that will get them killed, but rarely pull the trigger.

This guy is different, in that the actual violence was the first thing he did. So I do not think it was the classic "suicide by cop". It is to me more reminiscent of car rammings and knife attacks that have become popular among Palestinians over the last few years.
Example:
Israeli soldier injured in suspected Palestinian car ramming, knife attack

I do not deny Noah Green was a disturbed young man, but he was also a believer in a racist and Islamist ideology and that should not be discounted either.

I think that Noah Green was a disturbed young man, clearly in need of a great deal of mental health help. It seems obvious to me that he only decided to embrace Islamic extremism as a part of his mental health issues.

Here, it appears that the officers had no choice but to shoot him but it's a tragedy all around, from the loss of the officer's life, and that loss felt by his partner, fellow LEOs, his family and friends, and of course, the loss of the life of this young man.

 

[Gospel]

Try bringing up Farrakhan to generation Z

Tamika Mallory is not a Zoomer, but a Millennial, but I do not see why it should be different with Zoomers - racism is not confined to particular generations.

I meant to insinuate that his influence is on the decline.

I never liked Farrakhan to be honest with you.

That's two of us. He has a lot of fans around here.
I once (year 1 BC - before Covid) accidentally took the Wesley Chapel exit off I-20 and some young guy (likely a Zoomer to think of it) tied to sell me Final Call. LMAO - know your audience, dude.

Ok that's funny. At least the guy didn't go Derec = bad like on this forum. Seems you received unbiased treatment from the guy.

Farrakhan while many times hitting the nail on the head with his opinion and views

Care to give some examples? Is it his views on ancient black scientist Yakub or his opinions on the Jews where he, in your opinion, hits the nail on the head?

His speaking out against black-on-black crime as well as other things intended to improve the state of affairs in the black community. In a nutshell, you can cross almost everything he has to say about anything/anyone that has nothing to do with handing a reality check to black people (especially anything about Jews).

so don't go around tapping every black person on the shoulder saying "the nerve of this guy huh?".

Yeah, I don't do that anyway. I do it here, in a political discussion forum, which is designed for political discussions.

You may want to try talking to the guy selling the Final Call. He seemed more willing to engage you.