Chinese Approve of "Cultural Appropriation" Prom Dress

[Arctish]

It is nice to see that the pendulum is moving away from the cultural appropriation lunacy.

Two of those outfits are part of Mr. Trudeau's culture, one was presented to him by the leaders of the cultural group for whom it's a traditional outfit, and the fourth was widely ridiculed as 'dress-up clothes'.

Cultural appropriation has a particular meaning in sociology and anthropology. It's controversial but scholarly.

'Cultural appropriation' as presented on Fox News is like the Theory of Evolution as presented in Pokémon: it's silly.

 

[Derec]

Cultural appropriation has a particular meaning in sociology and anthropology. It's controversial but scholarly.

There are a lot of silly notions in academic social science. Like redefining "racism" so that only white people can be racist. Just because somebody in academia writes a paper or hundred does not mean the notion has any merit. The ridiculous idea, just like with redefinition of racism, is that only white people can culturally appropriate. So, I guess this is fine or something.

'Cultural appropriation' as presented on Fox News is like the Theory of Evolution as presented in Pokémon: it's silly.

No, they are very different. Fox News et al expose the inherent silliness and vacuousness of the very concept of "cultural appropriation" while Theory of Evolution has actual scientific merit and Pokemon is merely Hollywood Evolution to entertain children.

 

[Toni]

Cultural appropriation has a particular meaning in sociology and anthropology. It's controversial but scholarly.

There are a lot of silly notions in academic social science. Like redefining "racism" so that only white people can be racist. Just because somebody in academia writes a paper or hundred does not mean the notion has any merit. The ridiculous idea, just like with redefinition of racism, is that only white people can culturally appropriate. So, I guess this is fine or something.

Unlike internet pundits, particularly those who spew racist and sexist garbage as easily as they breathe air and complain about their (lack of) sex lives, academic disciplines closely and precisely define terms and terminology while non-academics use, mis-use and abuse words to fit their vernacular or political purposes.

 

[Derec]

academic disciplines closely and precisely define terms and terminology while non-academics use, mis-use and abuse words to fit their vernacular or political purposes.

Especially when they (in a racist manner) refine terms such that only white people can ever be guilty of them.
Lack of definition is not their problem. Overly careful definition so that it fits a particular political, to wit far left wing, agenda is the problem.

But nice ad hominem that I removed from the quote. I thought we were not supposed to discuss posters.

 

[Arctish]

Cultural appropriation has a particular meaning in sociology and anthropology. It's controversial but scholarly.

There are a lot of silly notions in academic social science. Like redefining "racism" so that only white people can be racist. Just because somebody in academia writes a paper or hundred does not mean the notion has any merit. The ridiculous idea, just like with redefinition of racism, is that only white people can culturally appropriate.

I'm not sure academic social science has done any such thing. The closest I've ever seen is a definition of racism that links it to in-group/out-group power dynamics, but that's not limited to white vs. non-white. An example is the Hmong in Viet Nam, who have to deal with a lot of anti-Hmong racism despite there being almost no whites in the region.

So, I guess this is fine or something.

In academic circles, probably yes.

'Cultural appropriation' as presented on Fox News is like the Theory of Evolution as presented in Pokémon: it's silly.

No, they are very different. Fox News et al expose the inherent silliness and vacuousness of the very concept of "cultural appropriation" while Theory of Evolution has actual scientific merit and Pokemon is merely Hollywood Evolution to entertain children.

It's silly because they're attacking a silly version of the concept. When was the last time you saw them discuss the sociology of cultural expression in the academic sense? When have they ever pointed out the differences between cultural exchange, cultural borrowing, and cultural appropriation the way academics who study the interaction of different cultures do? I'm betting, never.

Nah, they just present the latest ginned-up outrage against chauvinistic white sensibilities in a way a child can understand, and leave all that deep thinking nuanced academic stuff to the 'liberal elites' who watch MSNBC.

 

[Toni]

academic disciplines closely and precisely define terms and terminology while non-academics use, mis-use and abuse words to fit their vernacular or political purposes.

Especially when they (in a racist manner) refine terms such that only white people can ever be guilty of them.
Lack of definition is not their problem. Overly careful definition so that it fits a particular political, to wit far left wing, agenda is the problem.

But nice ad hominem that I removed from the quote. I thought we were not supposed to discuss posters.

Who was discussing a poster?

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But now I will: I was being quite serious when I wrote that those who engage in academic study and research of a subject use very specific definitions for pertinent terms and phrases. Ask an economist how much money he makes and you are likely to get your ear bent about how he or she does not engage in the printing of currency and all the ways and reasons that would be Illegal. Likewise, acid is defined very specifically by a chemist, and so on.

Your post indicates that you are engaging in ill-informed and rather knee jerk political judgements about a subject without having any benefit of actually being well informed on that subject.

Thanks for the negative rep. However ill informed the award. I've certainly never considered anyone on this board a pundit.

 

[Trausti]

Two of those outfits are part of Mr. Trudeau's culture, one was presented to him by the leaders of the cultural group for whom it's a traditional outfit, and the fourth was widely ridiculed as 'dress-up clothes'.

Cultural appropriation has a particular meaning in sociology and anthropology. It's controversial but scholarly.

'Cultural appropriation' as presented on Fox News is like the Theory of Evolution as presented in Pokémon: it's silly.

Though I think he is a douche, I wasn't really meaning to accuse him of bullshit "cultural appropriation." He looks silly. Full stop.

 

[Trausti]

 

[Arctish]

Two of those outfits are part of Mr. Trudeau's culture, one was presented to him by the leaders of the cultural group for whom it's a traditional outfit, and the fourth was widely ridiculed as 'dress-up clothes'.

Cultural appropriation has a particular meaning in sociology and anthropology. It's controversial but scholarly.

'Cultural appropriation' as presented on Fox News is like the Theory of Evolution as presented in Pokémon: it's silly.

Though I think he is a douche, I wasn't really meaning to accuse him of bullshit "cultural appropriation." He looks silly. Full stop.

I think he looks pretty good. I admire his willingness to trade in his worsted wool suit jacket for fringed and beaded black leather, and to rock that kilt at the Highland Games. And that picture of him taking his kid trick-or-treating on Halloween is adorable.