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Chinese Approve of "Cultural Appropriation" Prom Dress

This is fabricated Fox news crap to make all liberals seem like they are crazy, while conservatives are measured and calm.

Beat me to it.

This is much more about Fox News doing their Mole Hill: Bigger Than Mountain bullshit.

I'm seeing my dad later tonight. I wonder if he's gonna bring it up. I always have to be mentally prepared to deal with whatever he's seen on Fox in the hours immediately preceding my visits with him.
 
This is fabricated Fox news crap to make all liberals seem like they are crazy, while conservatives are measured and calm.

Beat me to it.

This is much more about Fox News doing their Mole Hill: Bigger Than Mountain bullshit.

I'm seeing my dad later tonight. I wonder if he's gonna bring it up. I always have to be mentally prepared to deal with whatever he's seen on Fox in the hours immediately preceding my visits with him.

I had to do my time with my Fox obsessed Dad last weekend. We have to do our duty. But fox news has taken over all older people!
 
This is fabricated Fox news crap to make all liberals seem like they are crazy, while conservatives are measured and calm.

Beat me to it.

This is much more about Fox News doing their Mole Hill: Bigger Than Mountain bullshit.

I'm seeing my dad later tonight. I wonder if he's gonna bring it up. I always have to be mentally prepared to deal with whatever he's seen on Fox in the hours immediately preceding my visits with him.

Yes, its on there mostly for entertainment value. I don't think anyone takes Crazy Cathy too seriously, and in fact, there is much speculation about whether she is a troll or some sort of Fox News plant. One the other hand, even here on this forum we have our share of liberals who are pretty far "out there". Didn't you recently get called out by one who was suggesting you were a racist and misogynist because you didn't happen to be overwhelmed by a couple of recent movies featuring women and blacks?
 
An oppressing group has to be taking something cultural from an oppressed group to be cultural appropriation. I don't think most people for it or against it, get that. People are stupid. Arguing over this is even dumber.

Calling people dumber for arguing over this is even dumber+infinity.

I did not call those people dumb for arguing. I wrote that the action is dumb. Smart people can do dumb things. However, indeed it is also true that most people are dumb. With respect to this thread, if things are not defined and people don't get it, which will certainly be the case, arguing is dumb. The fact that you want to misconstrue what I wrote and then argue semantics is even dumberer^infinity. So hah!
 
An oppressing group has to be taking something cultural from an oppressed group to be cultural appropriation. I don't think most people for it or against it, get that. People are stupid. Arguing over this is even dumber.

Calling people dumber for arguing over this is even dumber+infinity.

I did not call those people dumb for arguing. I wrote that the action is dumb. Smart people can do dumb things. However, indeed it is also true that most people are dumb. With respect to this thread, if things are not defined and people don't get it, which will certainly be the case, arguing is dumb. The fact that you want to misconstrue what I wrote and then argue semantics is even dumberer^infinity. So hah!

Calling something dumberer^infinity as if it is dumber than dumber+infinity is dumbest^((infinity)^10infinity)
 

Interesting excerpt from that article:

The outfit that became the qipao, the sijigiyan, was the traditional ethnic clothing of the Manchu, who took over China in 1644 and established their own Qing Dynasty as its rulers. In the process, they mandated that all adult Chinese men in service of the throne wear Manchu garb -- turning the loose-fitting straight-line sijigiyan, known in Mandarin Chinese as the changpao, into both a symbol of elite status and a stamp of absolute Manchu domination.

Eventually, the practice of wearing changpao became common even among non-Manchurian Chinese men who weren't part of the government. But non-Manchurian Chinese women continued to wear typical Chinese outfits -- usually blouses and long skirts under loose coats or jackets -- until the Qing Dynasty fell in 1911.

At that time, under the newly founded Republic of China, Chinese feminists called for women to end the practice of footbinding, cut their hair short and began wearing changpao as a means of asserting their equality with men.

By the 1930s, in colonial Shanghai and Hong Kong, the traditional Manchu male outfit had become feminized and stylized: The long gown was cut short and shaped to fit women's curves, elaborately printed or embroidered and turned into the dress commonly referred to as the qipao. Today, Chinese women who aren't restaurant staff or flight attendants do not wear the modern version of the qipao -- skin-tight, with a revealing leg slit and a hemline above the knee -- for anything other than weddings and gala events.
 
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/02/590356590/black-panther-brings-new-visibility-to-cosplayers-of-color

Black cosplayers often face criticism and ridicule for portraying white characters. But if they want to participate in cosplay, they don't have much of a choice. An annual report on Hollywood diversity found that while people of color make up nearly 40 percent of the U.S. population, they are grossly underrepresented across the industry.

"I have cosplayed non-black characters and heard the ridicule like, 'Oh well, you're black Power Girl.' No, I'm just Power Girl," Heredia says. "Or, 'Oh you're a black Wonder Woman.' No, just Wonder Woman."

This sentiment of isolation among many non-white cosplayers is further felt online when they interact with the thousands of cosplayers who are overwhelmingly white, Heredia says.

"I don't know how many times we'll go into a thread and be like, 'Hey, I'm really looking for ideas on what I should cosplay,' and it's nothing but only black characters because it's what we look like," she says.
 
I did not call those people dumb for arguing. I wrote that the action is dumb. Smart people can do dumb things. However, indeed it is also true that most people are dumb. With respect to this thread, if things are not defined and people don't get it, which will certainly be the case, arguing is dumb. The fact that you want to misconstrue what I wrote and then argue semantics is even dumberer^infinity. So hah!

Calling something dumberer^infinity as if it is dumber than dumber+infinity is dumbest^((infinity)^10infinity)

That comment is R(n-->infinity) of the recurrence R(n) where R(0)=dumbest^((infinity)^10infinity) and R(n+1) = R(n)^R(n)^R(n)....^R(n) infinity times.
 
It is nice to see that the pendulum is moving away from the cultural appropriation lunacy.

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I did not call those people dumb for arguing. I wrote that the action is dumb. Smart people can do dumb things. However, indeed it is also true that most people are dumb. With respect to this thread, if things are not defined and people don't get it, which will certainly be the case, arguing is dumb. The fact that you want to misconstrue what I wrote and then argue semantics is even dumberer^infinity. So hah!

Calling something dumberer^infinity as if it is dumber than dumber+infinity is dumbest^((infinity)^10infinity)

That comment is R(n-->infinity) of the recurrence R(n) where R(0)=dumbest^((infinity)^10infinity) and R(n+1) = R(n)^R(n)^R(n)....^R(n) infinity times.

that +1
 
Actions that are actually mocking, insulting, or racist are referred to as such. It's almost entirely actions that are none of those thing and not to any rational person a problem that are referred to as "cultural appropriation".

Hint: Actual wrongful acts are wrong no matter the ethnicity of the person doing them, and ff the same action is only a problem depending upon the ancestry of the person doing it, then it is not an actual problem at all.
 
Not sure if this has been said, but the prayer pose she did and the hand signs of the others in the photo were (not at all asian related) memes from the h3h3 channel. The prayer pose could be seen as tongue in cheek making fun of asians if one was overly defensive and did not know about h3h3.
 
Hmm. I wore a dress almost exactly like that to my prom. Except it was grey with black embroidery. Also an embroidered black silk jacket, very traditional. All I got were compliments on how beautiful it was, including appreciative compliments from the students of Chinese descent.

Clearly I was doing it wrong.
 
I don't recall ever hearing of Asians complaining of "cultural appropriation". It always seems to be something white people try to do on our behalf without asking us.
 
I don't recall ever hearing of Asians complaining of "cultural appropriation". It always seems to be something white people try to do on our behalf without asking us.

I suspect it's ingrained guilt. I mean, we white folks have been pretty crappy about steamrollering in to new territories and taking over, despite the fact that people already live there. We've been pretty seriously assholish about it in the past.
 
I don't recall ever hearing of Asians complaining of "cultural appropriation". It always seems to be something white people try to do on our behalf without asking us.

Your memory is faulty. Someone complained about sushi. I don't think that example qualifies either because it requires an oppressed population.
 
Not sure if this has been said, but the prayer pose she did and the hand signs of the others in the photo were (not at all asian related) memes from the h3h3 channel. The prayer pose could be seen as tongue in cheek making fun of asians if one was overly defensive and did not know about h3h3.
I have no idea what channel you are referring to, but that was my only question on the article. What was the deal with the picture pose?
 
Came across this article on Fox. Fox isn't the most reliable news source, but its an interesting story nonetheless. Some regressives were making a big deal over wearing a white girl wearing a traditional Chinese dress to prom? Why do people imagine that this is a problem again? Isn't this how culture is supposed to spread? She obviously thought it looked great so she wore it. Good for her. And many Chinese agree.

http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/20...m-sparking-cultural-appropriation-debate.html

http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/20...r-racist-prom-dress-wins-praise-in-china.html

Yea, I thought that was a crazy story. I have Chinese kids who are as American as any kid in America, and they wear Chinese dresses all the time.

You think that when people complain about cultural appropriation, they're complaining about Chinese people wearing Chinese clothes?

That's, uh, not how that works.

https://twitter.com/daumkeziah/status/988115815068139520/photo/1

And yeah, that picture of them holding their hands together looks like intentional mockery to me.

PS [ent]mdash[/ent] were you using your children in a "but I have a black friend" argument?
 
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