Climate Change(d)?

[robnisch]

Snow in Montana!!

OK. At 6500', but still.

Well, there's snow here.

Admittedly, not falling, and I would guess around 11,000'. Few patches of white on the north side.

I skied Mt. Hood on July 3rd on a bit of fresh snow in the mid 70's.
7000'.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Simple fix: don't test.

Here's Why Weather Forecasts Have Seemed So Inaccurate Lately

Meteorologists simply aren't able to gather as much data as they used to, and you're suffering for it.

gizmodo.com

 

[steve_bank]

Listened to a BBC report. We may be heading towards a super El Nino. Extreme drought in some paces, floods in others. The jet stream shifts.

El Niño has begun, scientists say, and could bring record heat

An El Niño event has officially started, say US scientists, raising fears of extreme weather and higher temperatures.

www.bbc.com

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yes, it is summer, yes it gets hot in summer.

Surface high pressure and an accompanying upper level ridge persist
across eastern United States. Dangerous heat and humidity continue
to impact the region as 850mb temperatures rise to the 20-25C range
(99th percentile).

But this is very unusual levels for some regions. Heat Index of 86 degrees at 11 PM tonight. This level of heat kills people.

 

[bilby]

Yes, it is summer

No, it isn't.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Yes, it is summer, yes it gets hot in summer.

Surface high pressure and an accompanying upper level ridge persist
across eastern United States. Dangerous heat and humidity continue
to impact the region as 850mb temperatures rise to the 20-25C range
(99th percentile).

But this is very unusual levels for some regions. Heat Index of 86 degrees at 11 PM tonight. This level of heat kills people.

People are dying? *roll eyes*

 

[steve_bank]

Yes people are dyeing due to climate change, there is a world outside the USA.

We are experiencing food issues here, but it is not critical yet. It is affecting agriculture. Beef prices are up in part due to climate change.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Yes people are dyeing due to climate change, there is a world outside the USA.

We are experiencing food issues here, but it is not critical yet. It is affecting agriculture. Beef prices are up in part due to climate change.

I was mocking Tswizzle's eyerolling habit.

 

[steve_bank]

Yes people are dyeing due to climate change, there is a world outside the USA.

We are experiencing food issues here, but it is not critical yet. It is affecting agriculture. Beef prices are up in part due to climate change.

I was mocking Tswizzle's eyerolling habit.

It went right over my head and I jumped to a conclusion.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

People worry about the desert heat.

NWS HeatRisk

www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

We are only in zone 1.

 

[crazyfingers]

People worry about the desert heat.

NWS HeatRisk

www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

We are only in zone 1.

That NWS website is an auto load when I start Firefox every day. I check it regularly.

 

[Elixir]

Here’s a site created by climate scientists that were fired from NOAA by Trump.
They probably did it just to piss off TSwizzle. But it reports lots of NOAA climate data that the Trump cabal tries to keep away from the faithful. Kinda like Epstein, except that this data is informative.

Climate.us Home

independent, nonprofit, and immune to politics

www.climate.us

 

[TSwizzle]

In my latest, and first (only?) piece on Climate Change(d), we discuss the issues that is whether Climate Change is the right term anymore and asking if we are in Climate Changed.

Take for instance, the Northwest North American heat wave, which caused the highest temperature ever recorded in Canadian history... and that happened in June. Portland, Oregon blew their all-time (not the record for the day, but for the year... any year) temp record by 9 degrees, which is the equivalent of some hockey player breaking Gretzky's scoring record by scoring 500 to 1,000 goals in a season.

Portland's high temps are interesting when looked at historically. There is a balance until about 1977, when the annual high gets above 100 degrees consistently. Then in 2021, they torch the record by 9 degrees! That is simply unheard of.

Climate scientists are reviewing this heat wave, not merely because it was unusual, but suspecting it was actually near impossible without human intervention. One study indicted possibly 1 in a 100,000 year event. IE, this was extreme for an extreme extreme event. Another study suggests with the changes in our atmosphere, this could become a 1 in 5 or 10 year event, hence the past tense on changed. Temperatures that soared above 100 degrees for a week... in the Pacific Northwest known for its... well not getting that hot.

With Texas getting that extraordinarily cold spell in the winter, that really gives the feel of an atmosphere that is far from equilibrium, and the continual adding of more energy into it, via greenhouse gases that are increasing the temperature is going to make what has already happened get worse. We seem to be more on a rocket in motion, instead of the dreamy stop the ticking clock scenario. Time will tell if this is the new climate, sadly years will be needed. But with the all-time records, and monthly average records abounding, the climate appears to have changed and our continued effort of ignoring it, will lead to further change that could make survival harder and harder.

First posted July 8th 2021, five years ago.

The earth still exists much the same.

And it is a catastrophic 73f in Santa Monica today.

#prayforsantamonica.

 

[Elixir]

The earth still exists much the same.

Same as five years ago?
OMFG
Stupid is alive and well in Santa Monica.

 

[DBT]

It would be surprising if the sheer scale of our industrial, economic activity had no effect on ecosystems or climate.

 

[Elixir]

It would be surprising if the sheer scale of our industrial, economic activity had no effect on ecosystems or climate.

A legion of climate denyers accuses you of trying to steal their money based on fake claims of climate change!

 

[ZiprHead]

In my latest, and first (only?) piece on Climate Change(d), we discuss the issues that is whether Climate Change is the right term anymore and asking if we are in Climate Changed.

Take for instance, the Northwest North American heat wave, which caused the highest temperature ever recorded in Canadian history... and that happened in June. Portland, Oregon blew their all-time (not the record for the day, but for the year... any year) temp record by 9 degrees, which is the equivalent of some hockey player breaking Gretzky's scoring record by scoring 500 to 1,000 goals in a season.

Portland's high temps are interesting when looked at historically. There is a balance until about 1977, when the annual high gets above 100 degrees consistently. Then in 2021, they torch the record by 9 degrees! That is simply unheard of.

Climate scientists are reviewing this heat wave, not merely because it was unusual, but suspecting it was actually near impossible without human intervention. One study indicted possibly 1 in a 100,000 year event. IE, this was extreme for an extreme extreme event. Another study suggests with the changes in our atmosphere, this could become a 1 in 5 or 10 year event, hence the past tense on changed. Temperatures that soared above 100 degrees for a week... in the Pacific Northwest known for its... well not getting that hot.

With Texas getting that extraordinarily cold spell in the winter, that really gives the feel of an atmosphere that is far from equilibrium, and the continual adding of more energy into it, via greenhouse gases that are increasing the temperature is going to make what has already happened get worse. We seem to be more on a rocket in motion, instead of the dreamy stop the ticking clock scenario. Time will tell if this is the new climate, sadly years will be needed. But with the all-time records, and monthly average records abounding, the climate appears to have changed and our continued effort of ignoring it, will lead to further change that could make survival harder and harder.

First posted July 8th 2021, five years ago.

The earth still exists much the same.

And it is a catastrophic 73f in Santa Monica today.

#prayforsantamonica.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

In my latest, and first (only?) piece on Climate Change(d), we discuss the issues that is whether Climate Change is the right term anymore and asking if we are in Climate Changed.

Take for instance, the Northwest North American heat wave, which caused the highest temperature ever recorded in Canadian history... and that happened in June. Portland, Oregon blew their all-time (not the record for the day, but for the year... any year) temp record by 9 degrees, which is the equivalent of some hockey player breaking Gretzky's scoring record by scoring 500 to 1,000 goals in a season.

Portland's high temps are interesting when looked at historically. There is a balance until about 1977, when the annual high gets above 100 degrees consistently. Then in 2021, they torch the record by 9 degrees! That is simply unheard of.

Climate scientists are reviewing this heat wave, not merely because it was unusual, but suspecting it was actually near impossible without human intervention. One study indicted possibly 1 in a 100,000 year event. IE, this was extreme for an extreme extreme event. Another study suggests with the changes in our atmosphere, this could become a 1 in 5 or 10 year event, hence the past tense on changed. Temperatures that soared above 100 degrees for a week... in the Pacific Northwest known for its... well not getting that hot.

With Texas getting that extraordinarily cold spell in the winter, that really gives the feel of an atmosphere that is far from equilibrium, and the continual adding of more energy into it, via greenhouse gases that are increasing the temperature is going to make what has already happened get worse. We seem to be more on a rocket in motion, instead of the dreamy stop the ticking clock scenario. Time will tell if this is the new climate, sadly years will be needed. But with the all-time records, and monthly average records abounding, the climate appears to have changed and our continued effort of ignoring it, will lead to further change that could make survival harder and harder.

First posted July 8th 2021, five years ago.

The earth still exists much the same.

And it is a catastrophic 73f in Santa Monica today.

#prayforsantamonica.

Earth, pretty much the same. The weather, I no longer want to be on the mountain on a summer afternoon.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Lol, those stupid scientists never thought to look at the temperature in Santa Monica. Checkmate, scientists.

 

[TSwizzle]

The U.S. Global Change Research Program is now headed by Matthew Wielicki, a former University of Alabama geochemist, according to his public postings on social media and confirmed by a second person familiar with the program, granted anonymity over fears of reprisal.
Wielicki, who calls himself a “professor in exile” and who frequently critiques climate science on social media, will be in charge of the program’s primary product, the congressionally mandated National Climate Assessment, a comprehensive report released every four years that shows how American infrastructure, lives and the economy are affected by climate change. Reached by phone, Wielicki, who has been soliciting ideas on X for what he should include in the next version of the assessment, said he’d like to speak about his work but only if the White House allows. The White House did not make him available for an interview, but sent a statement. “For too long, the USGCRP has been used as a vehicle for political agendas instead of sound science,” a White House spokesperson said in a statement. “We look forward to restoring the USGCRP and ensuring it fulfills its legal mandate.”

Politico

A move in the right direction in my opinion.