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Climate Change(d)?

Climate change is upon us and the worse is yet to come.
Oh noes!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!1111!!! Steve lad, there has been an imperceptible rise in global average temperature and you are running around like the sky is falling. Get a grip fella.

It is rwported tomato production is down in Ca due to temperature and lack of water. It will affect supply of tomatoes along with tomato sauce and ketchup.
I'm sure the climate porn propaganda is blaming the climate crisis/emergency/apocalypse for that.

We desperately need a national energy polcy and a new grid that integrates nuclear and renewalable energy sources. T
What California got was a multi billion dollar "high speed" rail project and nuclear power stations and natural gas stations closed. Although I think I read Newsom has deferred closing one of the nuclear plants and a few natural gas stations.
 
Climate change is upon us and the worse is yet to come.
Oh noes!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!1111!!! Steve lad, there has been an imperceptible rise in global average temperature and you are running around like the sky is falling. Get a grip fella.

The wilful ignorance — repeated over and over ad nauseum — is staggering. Mind-boggling.

Let's hope that Mr. Swizzle is practicing for a comedy skit to be given at CPAC or some low-IQ version of CPAC. The alternative would be to imagine that as part of his morning ablutions Mr. Swizzle batters his head with a hammer.

I don't know what the weather was like yesterday in L.A.'s Gateways Hospital, but here are some temperature records (gold, silver and bronze "medalists") from weather station 484000 — the major weather station nearest to me. It has been recording daily weather information for almost a century.

Code:
Most days above 43°C (109.4°F) in one year:
#1      15 days         - 2016
#2      2 days          - 2020
#3      1 day           - several years tied
-       0 days          - 2022

Most consecutive days above 42°C (107.6°F):
#1      21 days         - 2016, April
#2       9 days         - 2016, May
#3       4 days         - 1963, May
-        0 days         - 2022
To indicate how rare such temperatures are, even here, I show 2022 for comparison. This will give TSwizzle the opportunity to guffaw "See? Temperatures have been FALLING since 2016!"

I was here in 2016 and the heat wave didn't strike me as "imperceptible." In fact it was perceptible enough that I located and downloaded the weather records and wrote some software to parse and summarize the info.
 
Climate change is upon us and the worse is yet to come.
Oh noes!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!1111!!! Steve lad, there has been an imperceptible rise in global average temperature and you are running around like the sky is falling. Get a grip fella.

It is rwported tomato production is down in Ca due to temperature and lack of water. It will affect supply of tomatoes along with tomato sauce and ketchup.
I'm sure the climate porn propaganda is blaming the climate crisis/emergency/apocalypse for that.

We desperately need a national energy polcy and a new grid that integrates nuclear and renewalable energy sources. T
What California got was a multi billion dollar "high speed" rail project and nuclear power stations and natural gas stations closed. Although I think I read Newsom has deferred closing one of the nuclear plants and a few natural gas stations.
Imperceptible? You can not be serious.


It requires simple psychs. Even a 1 degree rise in ocean water represents a huge increase in stored energy. Like charging a big battery.

Do you understand what determines global air currents and where rain falls?

In the news Calinga Ca is exceeding its federal water allotment and can't afford to buy water on the open market.

A new American nuclear plant has been announced.
 
Climate change is upon us and the worse is yet to come.
Oh noes!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!1111!!! Steve lad, there has been an imperceptible rise in global average temperature and you are running around like the sky is falling. Get a grip fella.

It is rwported tomato production is down in Ca due to temperature and lack of water. It will affect supply of tomatoes along with tomato sauce and ketchup.
I'm sure the climate porn propaganda is blaming the climate crisis/emergency/apocalypse for that.

We desperately need a national energy polcy and a new grid that integrates nuclear and renewalable energy sources. T
What California got was a multi billion dollar "high speed" rail project and nuclear power stations and natural gas stations closed. Although I think I read Newsom has deferred closing one of the nuclear plants and a few natural gas stations.
Imperceptible? You can not be serious.


It requires simple psychs. Even a 1 degree rise in ocean water represents a huge increase in stored energy. Like charging a big battery.
Is this the crap headline I saw last year where it's like 50million Hiroshima bombs going off every hour or something? Absolute tosh.

Do you understand what determines global air currents and where rain falls?
Do you? Do you understand these things are naturally variable? I don't think you do. You seem to think the earth's climate is static.

In the news Calinga Ca is exceeding its federal water allotment and can't afford to buy water on the open market.
Thanks goodness we have "high speed" rail.
A new American nuclear plant has been announced.
Newsom and the green fascists are determined to shut down California nuclear plant.

An end of times, rapture like cult.
 
Newsom and the green fascists are determined to shut down California nuclear plant.
You're behind the times. That Insufferable Prick Gavin Newsom is fighting for your team at the moment.
No I am not behind the times. I posted earlier that Newsom was merely deferring the closure. And we know he is doing this to try to stop brown outs which would make him look even more dumb than he actually is. Closing the nuclear plants is the end game.

And today is the start of our "flex alerts". We are to avoid using electricity between 4:00pm and 9:00pm in case we overload the grid and cause black outs. It's like I'm living in fucking Mumbai or something and not the "fifth biggest economy in the world!!111!!!1" tm
 
Newsom and the green fascists are determined to shut down California nuclear plant.
You're behind the times. That Insufferable Prick Gavin Newsom is fighting for your team at the moment.
No I am not behind the times. I posted earlier that Newsom was merely deferring the closure. And we know he is doing this to try to stop brown outs which would make him look even more dumb than he actually is. Closing the nuclear plants is the end game.

And today is the start of our "flex alerts". We are to avoid using electricity between 4:00pm and 9:00pm in case we overload the grid and cause black outs. It's like I'm living in fucking Mumbai or something and not the "fifth biggest economy in the world!!111!!!1" tm
Well, no, you're just very wrong. There is a lot of air between "is determined to shut down the plant" and "is offering billions of dollars of taxpayer money to an untrustworthy semiprivate power company in order to keep the plant open literally as long as possible". The plants were never expected nor were designed to function for all eternity. Newsom has been consistently pushing to keep this one open longer. For years, now. As you would know if conservatives read the actual news rather than hearing everything filtered through pundits.

You said an untrue thing.

You were mistaken.

The thing you said was obviously wrong.

As for FLEX alerts, you sound like a whiny baby. Brownouts, you know they're actually a pretty normal experience in most of the country. You're just used to being pampered by our uncommonly consistent power grid, unique to our very well run alliance of Western states, specifically because building a diverse and robust network of power sources has been a major priority over the past several decades. The fact that you are being politely asked to reduce power use in peak hours, with no actual compulsion to do so, is not a violation of your rights, or even an imposition. Because you live in a liberal utopia, you can just ignore the request, and when you turn on a light switch, still feel absolutely confident that the light will turn on.

But I guess you probably ascribe that wonderful consistency to, I dunno, fucking prayer or something? Rather than, as is obvious to all, the accomplishment of our superior political system and civic infrastructure?
 
Behave yourself.

Well, no, you're just very wrong. There is a lot of air between "is determined to shut down the plant" and "is offering billions of dollars of taxpayer money to an untrustworthy semiprivate power company in order to keep the plant open literally as long as possible". The plants were never expected nor were designed to function for all eternity.
And nobody but you has said they were to function for all eternity. What a dumb thing to say. If you think Newsom is prolonging the life of Diablo Canyon as some sort of long term energy policy, you are as dumb as he is.

As for FLEX alerts, you sound like a whiny baby.
LOL, yeah, I guess all those folks who rely on electricity to run their business and medical equipment etc etc are just whiny babies too. You ought to hear the moaning from the tiny number Tesla owners who can't charge their batteries. Just how are all the EVs in California going to charge their batteries when we switch to EV in earnest?

Brownouts, you know they're actually a pretty normal experience in most of the country. You're just used to being pampered by our uncommonly consistent power grid, unique to our very well run alliance of Western states, specifically because building a diverse and robust network of power sources has been a major priority over the past several decades. The fact that you are being politely asked to reduce power use in peak hours, with no actual compulsion to do so, is not a violation of your rights, or even an imposition. Because you live in a liberal utopia, you can just ignore the request, and when you turn on a light switch, still feel absolutely confident that the light will turn on.
"pampered"?! LOL. The fifth largest economy in the world, the cradle of technical innovation can't keep the fucking lights on?!! Laughable.

Believe me, I pay no attention these flex alerts. Sort the fucking energy supply out.


But I guess you probably ascribe that wonderful consistency to, I dunno, fucking prayer or something? Rather than, as is obvious to all, the accomplishment of our superior political system and civic infrastructure?

Nancy is praying to Mother Earth because she is angry. I'm not the religious nut here.


And end of times rapture like cult.
 
Climate change is upon us and the worse is yet to come.
Oh noes!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!1111!!! Steve lad, there has been an imperceptible rise in global average temperature and you are running around like the sky is falling. Get a grip fella.

It is rwported tomato production is down in Ca due to temperature and lack of water. It will affect supply of tomatoes along with tomato sauce and ketchup.
I'm sure the climate porn propaganda is blaming the climate crisis/emergency/apocalypse for that.

We desperately need a national energy polcy and a new grid that integrates nuclear and renewalable energy sources. T
What California got was a multi billion dollar "high speed" rail project and nuclear power stations and natural gas stations closed. Although I think I read Newsom has deferred closing one of the nuclear plants and a few natural gas stations.
Imperceptible? You can not be serious.


It requires simple psychs. Even a 1 degree rise in ocean water represents a huge increase in stored energy. Like charging a big battery.
Is this the crap headline I saw last year where it's like 50million Hiroshima bombs going off every hour or something? Absolute tosh.

Do you understand what determines global air currents and where rain falls?
Do you? Do you understand these things are naturally variable? I don't think you do. You seem to think the earth's climate is static.

In the news Calinga Ca is exceeding its federal water allotment and can't afford to buy water on the open market.
Thanks goodness we have "high speed" rail.
A new American nuclear plant has been announced.
Newsom and the green fascists are determined to shut down California nuclear plant.

An end of times, rapture like cult.

Yes I do not how local weather is craeted.

Cold water at the poles sink leading to global ocean currents. The temerate European waether depns pn the current runing off the cost. As polar ice melts European weather will get extreme. As cold water sinks in the current's pasth it brings oxygen and huntuents down to marine life, like the fish you eat.

It is all freshman or sophomore thermodynamics. Maybe high school sceince. Do you know the difference between thermal convection and conduction? Do you know how convection currents form? If you don't then all you can do is resort to the weak tactic of claiming I know nothing and posting links. Again, your tactics are transparent.

There are natural variations, and there is human induced global warming that affects climate.

Again thermodynamics. All the energy generated and work done tends to show up as heat. Where do you think that heat goes? Do you know what the albedo is? Do you know what the black body emissivity of the Earth is?

The above s the fundamntals of what you need to understand climate and weather.

I imagine die hard climate deniers are afraid tol ook at science, they might find they are wrong. To some knowledge can be a scary thing.

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Mr Tswizzle, ei simple thought experiment that requires no science.

Windows and doors are closed and you boil a pot of water. Turn off the stove and let it cool. Where do you think the heat goes? I'll give you a hint, it can't just disapear into nothing.

You are driving your car and the engine generates heat. You hit the brakes and kinetic energy in the car shows up as heat in the brakes. On race cars yiu can see the brake discs glowing red. Where does the heat go?

Could it be to the atmosphere? Heat is added to the atmosphere, where does it go? If the rate of increase in temperture of the atmosphere exceeds the abilty of the Earth to radiate it away thne the temperature of the atmosphere rises. Just like the air temperature in your kitchen does when you cook.

You can look at the Earth as being suspended in a giant vacuum bottle. I assume you know what a vacuum bottle is, like what you use to keep coffee hot.

Venturing into new knowledge can be a scary thing I imagine. You can choose to explore and challenge your own belifs or you can emotioanly wall yiurself off and hide.
 
Again, your tactics are transparent.
I have no tactics. I merely point out the absurdity of the climate catastrophe claims that you believe in and the religious fervor with which it is embraced.
And again, you are not pointing out anything. You cherry pick questionable references to support a preordained conclusion. That is called confirmation bias.

You will have to define what you think catastrophic means. There are certainly crazies on the climate change side who resort to exaggeration and hyperbole. The flip side of climate change denier crazies.

To me is catastrophic in that the econmic system as it is is not sustainable, mass consumption is not sustainable. Food and water will not be able to keep up with increasing population and industrial demand.

All life on hee planet will not likely die out. However we are seeing extinction rates rise at lower levels in the ecosystem. Do you know that if bee, butterfly, and other insects decline our food production will be affected?

Hannity mocked govt money being spent on looking at decline of wild and domesticated bees. Apparently ignorant of the role bees play in our agriculture and the ecosystem. We get oxygen from plants.

There are commercial pollination companies with mobile hives farners hire to poliate crops.


WASHINGTON, June 20, 2014 – The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), today announced $8 million in Conservation Reserve Program (CRP) incentives for Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wisconsin farmers and ranchers who establish new habitats for declining honey bee populations. More than half of the commercially managed honey bees are in these five states during the summer. Today's announcement comes in addition to $3 million USDA designated to the Midwest states to support bee populations earlier this year through the Natural Resources Conservation Service Environmental Quality Incentives Program.

"American agricultural production relies on having a healthy honey bee population," said Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack. "In recent years, factors such as diseases, parasites, pesticides or habitat loss have contributed to a significant decline in the honey bee population. This $8 million is part of the Administration's ongoing strategy to reverse these trends and establish more plant habitat on Conservation Reserve Program lands to restore the bee population."

The new CRP pollinator initiative is designed to further enhance current CRP land, allowing it to provide better access to nutritious pollinator forage. The program allows for managing or replacing existing vegetation, known as 'covers', with lower cost, high nutrition seed mixes that can support distinct blooming cycles of plants that benefit pollinators. Honey bees, the pollinator workhorse of U.S. fruit and vegetable agriculture, will have more blooms from which to collect nectar and pollen to sustain and promote colony growth and honey production throughout the growing season. By assisting honey bees, the pollinator initiative helps USDA continue to secure the food supply. More than $15 billion worth of agricultural production, including over 130 fruits and vegetables, depend on the health and well-being of honey bees.


To us humans and our modern civilization climate change is looking catastrophic. Coastal USA will become uninhabitable with ocean rise, this is not in dispute. Ports like La will have to do a lot of work to deal with it. Miami is already pulling back from the coast.

Rising temperatures are already affect food supplies and it is just beginning. The COVID supply chain problems reveled how fragile our glabal food and products chain is. It does not take much to upset it.


You are woefully ignorant of the ecosystem we exist in and are part of.
 
"pampered"?! LOL. The fifth largest economy in the world, the cradle of technical innovation can't keep the fucking lights on?!! Laughable.
It does keep the lights on. You're whining about FLEX alerts, which are purely voluntary (and sensible).

I don't think most people charge their Teslas during the midafternoon anyway, but if they do, they too can still do so. Good state to find a Tesla in, incidentally. Because we lead all of North America in technology, and most of us give a shit about the environment also.

Kind of a waste of a good state, keeping such a large population around who are apparently still living in the last century, but luckily, our liberal policies are broad enough to meet all of your needs as well, even if you are not inclined to appreciate the effort.
 
"pampered"?! LOL. The fifth largest economy in the world, the cradle of technical innovation can't keep the fucking lights on?!! Laughable.
It does keep the lights on. You're whining about FLEX alerts, which are purely voluntary (and sensible).
Flex alerts should not be necessary in the fifth biggest economy in the world!!11!!! And it doesn't always keep the lights on as you know. Why you excuse this is beyond me.

I don't think most people charge their Teslas during the midafternoon anyway, but if they do, they too can still do so.
Not if there is a blackout they can't.

Good state to find a Tesla in, incidentally. Because we lead all of North America in technology, and most of us give a shit about the environment also.
And yet struggle to keep the lights on in summer.
 
Flex alerts should not be necessary in the fifth biggest economy in the world!!11!!! And it doesn't always keep the lights on as you know. Why you excuse this is beyond me.
Which is why they aren't necessary. They're recommended. Because they make sense, and most of us are well-educated.

Not if there is a blackout they can't.
What blackout? Our grid is the most solid and consistent on the continent.

And yet struggle to keep the lights on in summer.
What struggle? You turn a switch, electirity flows in. You live in luxury, and you're complaining like a toddler who's just been asked to share a toy because once a year you are asked - not compelled, just asked - to help maintain the system in a raitonal and ecologically conscious way.
 
Flex alerts should not be necessary in the fifth biggest economy in the world!!11!!! And it doesn't always keep the lights on as you know. Why you excuse this is beyond me.
Which is why they aren't necessary. They're recommended. Because they make sense, and most of us are well-educated.
LOL, incoherent gibberish.

What blackout? Our grid is the most solid and consistent on the continent.
Behave yourself, we have had rolling blackouts. In fact I think CA is one of the worst states for blackouts.

And yet struggle to keep the lights on in summer.
What struggle?

LOL, the scrambling for power to keep the lights on.

You turn a switch, electirity flows in. You live in luxury, and you're complaining like a toddler who's just been asked to share a toy because once a year you are asked - not compelled, just asked - to help maintain the system in a raitonal and ecologically conscious way.

I'm complaining like any consumer does when the services I pay for are not provided. Am I expecting too much from the fifth biggest economy in the world!!!!111!!!11!!!?
 
Ignorance is bliss is it not Tswizzle?

Tswizzle If you want to talk science do so. Otherwise go bacl to ignorance and calling climate activists a cult.

Yes we are pampered and have a life of ease on a large scale, certainly not all. Climate controlled work, homes, and cars. 24/7 entertainment. A vast array of pleasure food. On a scale for the average person that did not exist when I was born. The supermarket did not exist when I was born.

We havee become soft evidenced by the chronic whing in media reporting. Reliance on pot and feel god pharmaceuticals.
 
Flex alerts should not be necessary in the fifth biggest economy in the world!!11!!! And it doesn't always keep the lights on as you know. Why you excuse this is beyond me.
Which is why they aren't necessary. They're recommended. Because they make sense, and most of us are well-educated.

Not if there is a blackout they can't.
What blackout? Our grid is the most solid and consistent on the continent.

And yet struggle to keep the lights on in summer.
What struggle? You turn a switch, electirity flows in. You live in luxury, and you're complaining like a toddler who's just been asked to share a toy because once a year you are asked - not compelled, just asked - to help maintain the system in a raitonal and ecologically conscious way.
Most solid on the continent? Maybe relative to Nicaragua or Cuba.

It has been known since the early 90s our grid is aging and in need of serious upgrade and changes. It is a patchwork.

Some areas have problems keeping up with air conditioning loads. Jere in the wetern Washgton nd te central sound air coditing is not widespread, but that is changing.
 
Looks like we are being urged to cut back on power;

To prevent power outages, state officials asked residents and businesses to turn off lights and appliances and preset their thermostats to 78F (26C), especially during the critical hours between 4 and 9pm local time when demand typically peaks and solar power generation beings to ebb. Power systems withstood heat waves in 2021 but rolling blackouts for two days in August 2020 left about 400,000 households without power.

Teh Gruaniad
 
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