Climate Change(d)?

[steve_bank]

How to tell if someone has OCD?
OCD symptoms include obsessions, compulsions, or both. An obsession is an uncontrollable thought or fear that causes stress. A compulsion is a ritual or action that someone repeats a lot. Compulsions may offer some relief, but only for a little while.Jun 19, 2024

Does someone who repeats the same simple lines over and over on the Internet indicate OCD?

 

[TSwizzle]

It is a catastrophic 61 degrees this morning, oh the humanity!! #PrayForSantaMonica

Meanwhile, Hurricane Helene is currently prog'd to intensify to a Cat 3 in 24 hrs... with probably a strong likelihood it'll get to at least a Cat 4 in the 36 hour run up to landfall.

OMG!!! And hurricanes are unheard of in the region I assume?

Rapid intensification for any storm in the Gulf is a new thing in the last couple of decades,

Is it really though?

Personally, I can't wait until your home is swallowed up in a fissure from an earthquake.

That's nice.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It is a catastrophic 61 degrees this morning, oh the humanity!! #PrayForSantaMonica

Meanwhile, Hurricane Helene is currently prog'd to intensify to a Cat 3 in 24 hrs... with probably a strong likelihood it'll get to at least a Cat 4 in the 36 hour run up to landfall.

OMG!!! And hurricanes are unheard of in the region I assume?

Rapid intensification for any storm in the Gulf is a new thing in the last couple of decades,

Is it really though?

Yes. Anyone that follows hurricane forecasting understands that forecasting intensity is getting a bit harder as the storms often are on the high end of the models.

Here is a paper on the subject.

Rapid intensification (RI) is an essential process in the development of strong tropical cyclones and a major challenge in prediction. RI in offshore regions is more threatening to coastal populations and economies. Although much effort has been devoted to studying basin-wide temporal-spatial fluctuations, variations of global RI events in offshore regions remain uncertain. Here, we show that compared with open oceans, where the annual RI counts do not show significant changes, offshore areas within 400 km of the coastline have experienced a significant increase in RI events, with the count tripling from 1980 to 2020. Furthermore, thermodynamic environments present more favorable conditions for this trend, and climate models show that global ocean warming has enhanced such changes. This work yields an important finding that an increasing threat of RI in coastal regions has occurred in the preceding decades, which may continue under a future warming climate.

To save you the time of not clicking or reading the link, here is a series of charts showing rapid intensification becoming more and more common.

 

[laughing dog]

It is a catastrophic 61 degrees this morning, oh the humanity!! #PrayForSantaMonica

Meanwhile, Hurricane Helene is currently prog'd to intensify to a Cat 3 in 24 hrs... with probably a strong likelihood it'll get to at least a Cat 4 in the 36 hour run up to landfall.

OMG!!! And hurricanes are unheard of in the region I assume?

Rapid intensification for any storm in the Gulf is a new thing in the last couple of decades,

Is it really though?

Yes. Anyone that follows hurricane forecasting understands that forecasting intensity is getting a bit harder as the storms often are on the high end of the models.

Here is a paper on the subject.

Rapid intensification (RI) is an essential process in the development of strong tropical cyclones and a major challenge in prediction. RI in offshore regions is more threatening to coastal populations and economies. Although much effort has been devoted to studying basin-wide temporal-spatial fluctuations, variations of global RI events in offshore regions remain uncertain. Here, we show that compared with open oceans, where the annual RI counts do not show significant changes, offshore areas within 400 km of the coastline have experienced a significant increase in RI events, with the count tripling from 1980 to 2020. Furthermore, thermodynamic environments present more favorable conditions for this trend, and climate models show that global ocean warming has enhanced such changes. This work yields an important finding that an increasing threat of RI in coastal regions has occurred in the preceding decades, which may continue under a future warming climate.

To save you the time of not clicking or reading the link, here is a series of charts showing rapid intensification becoming more and more common.

Science and facts are confusing.

 

[TSwizzle]

Nature? lol!

Rapid intensification (RI) is an essential process in the development of strong tropical cyclones and a major challenge in prediction. Although much effort has been devoted to studying basin-wide temporal-spatial fluctuations, variations of global RI events in offshore regions remain uncertain. thermodynamic environments present more favorable conditions for this trend, and climate models show that global ocean warming has enhanced such changes. Although the frequency of TCs has been declining based on observational data and numerical projections errors in intensity forecasting have not substantially decreased in recent decades rendering its forecasting particularly challenging owing to the uncertainty in onset time and duration In recent work, Balaguru Increasing hurricane intensification rate Near the US Atlantic Coast. showed that the intensification rate increased in coastal areas (defined as within 200 nautical miles from the coast) of the United States, although they did not explicitly analyze the trend of RI events. clear trends have not been defined despite the direct threat posed by RI in offshore regions. etc.

Hardly damning evidence. Earth's climate has always fluctuated and has natural variation.

Baffling so many people think that the climate is static.

 

[pood]

Nature? lol!

Rapid intensification (RI) is an essential process in the development of strong tropical cyclones and a major challenge in prediction. Although much effort has been devoted to studying basin-wide temporal-spatial fluctuations, variations of global RI events in offshore regions remain uncertain. thermodynamic environments present more favorable conditions for this trend, and climate models show that global ocean warming has enhanced such changes. Although the frequency of TCs has been declining based on observational data and numerical projections errors in intensity forecasting have not substantially decreased in recent decades rendering its forecasting particularly challenging owing to the uncertainty in onset time and duration In recent work, Balaguru Increasing hurricane intensification rate Near the US Atlantic Coast. showed that the intensification rate increased in coastal areas (defined as within 200 nautical miles from the coast) of the United States, although they did not explicitly analyze the trend of RI events. clear trends have not been defined despite the direct threat posed by RI in offshore regions. etc.

Hardly damning evidence. Earth's climate has always fluctuated and has natural variation.

Baffling so many people think that the climate is static.

Except nobody thinks climate is static, and we have provided overwhelming evidence that the current climate change is due to the burning a fossil fuels, an outcome first predicted in the 19th century. Yet you ignore all this evidence and continue to post your stupid weather reports from Santa Monica, an utter irrelevancy since weather is not climate. Stop lying about what other people say.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Earth's climate has always fluctuated and has natural variation.

Why do you believe this?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Nature? lol!

Rapid intensification (RI) is an essential process in the development of strong tropical cyclones and a major challenge in prediction. Although much effort has been devoted to studying basin-wide temporal-spatial fluctuations, variations of global RI events in offshore regions remain uncertain. thermodynamic environments present more favorable conditions for this trend, and climate models show that global ocean warming has enhanced such changes. Although the frequency of TCs has been declining based on observational data and numerical projections errors in intensity forecasting have not substantially decreased in recent decades rendering its forecasting particularly challenging owing to the uncertainty in onset time and duration In recent work, Balaguru Increasing hurricane intensification rate Near the US Atlantic Coast. showed that the intensification rate increased in coastal areas (defined as within 200 nautical miles from the coast) of the United States, although they did not explicitly analyze the trend of RI events. clear trends have not been defined despite the direct threat posed by RI in offshore regions. etc.

Hardly damning evidence. Earth's climate has always fluctuated and has natural variation.

Baffling so many people think that the climate is static.

You don't apparently know the difference between a variation and a trend.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I am all for nuclear power but NIMBY not in my back yard.

Why not? Nuclear power plants are far better neighbours than any other industrial facilities.

I would very much welcome one close to my home - Swanbank would be an ideal site, as it used to have a large coal power station, so has access to cooling water, and still has much of the transmission infrastructure (there is currently a gas power plant occupying a small part of the site).

It is about 30km from my house.

I don't believe heavy industrial facilities belong around residential, period. Given that, I consider nuclear to be about the friendliest of anything that big. I'd worry a bit about putting a nuke on a coal plant--too much opportunity for the nuke to get blamed from all the crud that no doubt is left from the coal plant.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Calling it nuclear is dead in the water. Be like calling hydro power, big wall of water that'll kill or drown you.

Well, it worked for MRI scanners. They were originally called NMR - Nuclear Magnetic Resonance - but patients were scared by the word Nuclear, so it was changed to Magnetic Resonance Imaging, and the problem went away.

(NMR/MRI scans cause atomic nucleii to resonate in a periodically applied strong magnetic field; They act on atomic nucleii, but don't break up those nucleii, and don't cause or involve any ionizing radiation at all*)









*Unlike an X-Ray, which exposes people to ionizing radiation, but which they are not scared of because people are generally clueless, and X-Ray technology has been in routine use for a long time. CAT scans expose patients to radiation, but nobody is particularly scared of them; CATs are cuddly and cute.

Yup. Basically it gives them a kick and sees how they wiggle in response. Take an image, inject some IV gadolinium and repeat the image. Subtract, now you have an image of blood flow. That mysterious shadow on the ultrasound--no blood supply, it can't be cancer.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

There is some evidence of an uptick in cancer in and around the Three Mile Island site in the years after the incident, but the evidence is inconclusive. That’s about it. Of course a huge amount of conclusively linked cancer is caused by smoking, not nuclear plant accidents.

A cluster around one source doesn't prove much.

I'm reminded of a case from Australia, a cluster of birth defects around a nuclear plant. Because there were a bunch of new houses that couples were moving into and having babies. High per capita, not high per baby.

Yep. Make a dot on a map at each house of a cancer victim in an average town. Its pretty much a guarantee that by random chance you will find a more dense than average cluster of dots in some neighborhood in town. Of course, some busybody will notice that and will start blaming radiation, tap water, electric power lines, cell towers, Roundup spraying on the weeds, etc. and demand an investigation.

Yup, although the biggest effect seems to be socioeconomic.

And it turns out power wires are relevant--because they detract from the value of a house. Socioeconomic. It's not the proximity to wires that matters, it's whether they are visible.

And Roundup needs to be moved from the cleared to the uncertain category. The problem is that one of it's big advantages was non-persistence. It broke down very quickly in nature. Oops, under certain conditions it doesn't. I haven't seen anything on the research that certainly should follow having a support knocked out from under it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Climate cultists from The Sunrise Movement demonstrate outside the VP Harris' Brentwood home and a couple of them get arrested;

The protest, made up of a group of 25 people, aimed to push the vice president to present a climate plan addressing the ongoing wildfire crisis and broader impacts of climate change, particularly in Southern California. One of the protesters, Corina McDonald, 24, whose home was nearly destroyed in the Bridge Fire, urged Harris to meet directly with residents and commit to a concrete plan. "Kamala Harris must visit our neighborhoods to convince us that she cares," McDonald said. "She needs to meet us face-to-face and announce a clear plan to prevent climate destruction while creating good jobs and transitioning the country to 100% renewable energy."

Newsweek

Climate change did not cause the Bridge Fire. Do these morons not understand the wildfires have always been a thing in California?

Evasion: "cause". It didn't cause it. But California summers have been getting hotter and drier, even more of a tinderbox. And even more prone to producing fire energies that current technology has only one answer for: run.

Climate change does not cause much. It intensifies a lot of things.

It's not the spark. It is the gasoline.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

About 1/2 of South Carolina has received 6+ inches (0.04124 cm) of rain. A decent area has gotten over 12 inches (74,476 cm). River gauges are shooting up.

Tampa is assessing the damage from the storm... that didn't even hit Tampa, it brushed it. This storm is moving fast, but still dropping a ton of rain, causing massive flooding in GA, NC, SC.

These are the bonus touches that Rapid Intensification can provide, where a storm can pop a few categories in 24 to 36 hours.

 

[TSwizzle]

The Climate Apocalypse Cultists are at it again;

Three Just Stop Oil supporters have thrown soup over two of Vincent van Gogh's paintings just hours after fellow activists were jailed for doing the same thing to his famous Sunflowers masterpiece. Pictures show three Just Stop Oil activists stood in front of the Sunflower painting in the 'Poets and Lovers' exhibition at the National Gallery after covering it in soup again this afternoon. Phoebe Plummer 23, and Anna Holland, 22, were jailed earlier today for the same stunt that they performed in October 2022, as they came close to 'destroying' the masterpiece.

Daily Mail

One can't help but notice the make up of these cultists, white privileged unemployable liberal arts students and white middle aged retirees.



A catastrophic 61 degrees today in Santa Monica!!!!!11!!!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The Climate Apocalypse Cultists are at it again;

Three Just Stop Oil supporters have thrown soup over two of Vincent van Gogh's paintings just hours after fellow activists were jailed for doing the same thing to his famous Sunflowers masterpiece. Pictures show three Just Stop Oil activists stood in front of the Sunflower painting in the 'Poets and Lovers' exhibition at the National Gallery after covering it in soup again this afternoon. Phoebe Plummer 23, and Anna Holland, 22, were jailed earlier today for the same stunt that they performed in October 2022, as they came close to 'destroying' the masterpiece.

Daily Mail
One can't help but notice the make up of these cultists, white privileged unemployable liberal arts students and white middle aged retirees.

Their stupid actions don't actually speak to the legitimacy of the concerns of global warming.

A catastrophic 61 degrees today in Santa Monica!!!!!11!!!

A catastrophic failure is feared imminent for Lake Lure Dam.

 

[steve_bank]

Well, I am sure glad I retired in western Washington and not Florida.

20 foot storm surges.

 

[southernhybrid]

Hurricanes never used to be like Helene until the last decade or so. We were lucky that we didn't lose our power, although we did have a lot of water in our basement. We had at least 6 inches of rain in less than 18 hours. We've never had that much rain in such a short time. Atlanta is flooded, roads closed etc. Anyone interested can read all about it in the link below. I've lived in Ga. for about 30 years and we've never had storms like this make their way from Florida and have such a negative impact on a large portion of the Southeast. Sure, the climate changes, but it's never changed so rapidly as it has in this century. That's what somebody doesn't seem to understand.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/0...e_code=1.N04.HPNO.T_JW_-yinAqx&smid=url-share

Destruction from Tropical Storm Helene stretched nearly 800 miles from South Florida into the mountains of Appalachia on Friday. The huge storm spawned flash floods and mudslides on its dash inland after bashing the Gulf Coast.

In the densely populated Tampa Bay region, neighborhood after neighborhood was underwater, the result of a powerful storm surge. And across North Carolina, more than two million people were under flash flood warnings at midday Friday.

Helene raced ashore just before midnight as the strongest hurricane ever to hit Florida’s Big Bend region. Fierce winds snapped trees and power poles, ripped roofs and shattered windows. The rising Gulf swept into communities hundreds of miles from the storm’s center.

Here’s what we’re covering:

• Florida damage: Though Helene was frightening, coming ashore as a powerful Category 4 storm, it moved quickly and shifted east before landfall, avoiding a direct hit to Tallahassee, Florida’s capital city of about 200,000. Recovery efforts were focused on clearing roads covered by mud, debris and downed trees.
• Big Bend hit: The heaviest blow appeared to fall on Florida’s sparsely populated Big Bend region, which had yet to recover from two other storms over the last 13 months. “It looks like a nuclear bomb went off,” said Michael Bobbitt, who lives in tiny Cedar Key, Fla., jutting into the Gulf of Mexico.
• Power outages: The storm knocked out power to more than 6 million customers in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia as it moved inland. Temperatures could reach 90 degrees in parts of Florida on Friday, creating another risk for vulnerable populations without air-conditioning.
• Impact elsewhere: The storm brought flooding and tornadoes to much of the Southeast and landslides around Asheville, N.C., and a landslide blocked all lanes of Interstate 40 in the mountains east of the city. At least 20 people were reported dead in three states, including seven in Florida and 11 in Georgia.

 

[pood]

Hurricanes never used to be like Helene until the last decade or so. We were lucky that we didn't lose our power, although we did have a lot of water in our basement. We had at least 6 inches of rain in less than 18 hours. We've never had that much rain in such a short time. Atlanta is flooded, roads closed etc. Anyone interested can read all about it in the link below. I've lived in Ga. for about 30 years and we've never had storms like this make their way from Florida and have such a negative impact on a large portion of the Southeast. Sure, the climate changes, but it's never changed so rapidly as it has in this century. That's what somebody doesn't seem to understand.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/0...e_code=1.N04.HPNO.T_JW_-yinAqx&smid=url-share

Destruction from Tropical Storm Helene stretched nearly 800 miles from South Florida into the mountains of Appalachia on Friday. The huge storm spawned flash floods and mudslides on its dash inland after bashing the Gulf Coast.

In the densely populated Tampa Bay region, neighborhood after neighborhood was underwater, the result of a powerful storm surge. And across North Carolina, more than two million people were under flash flood warnings at midday Friday.

Helene raced ashore just before midnight as the strongest hurricane ever to hit Florida’s Big Bend region. Fierce winds snapped trees and power poles, ripped roofs and shattered windows. The rising Gulf swept into communities hundreds of miles from the storm’s center.

Here’s what we’re covering:

• Florida damage: Though Helene was frightening, coming ashore as a powerful Category 4 storm, it moved quickly and shifted east before landfall, avoiding a direct hit to Tallahassee, Florida’s capital city of about 200,000. Recovery efforts were focused on clearing roads covered by mud, debris and downed trees.
• Big Bend hit: The heaviest blow appeared to fall on Florida’s sparsely populated Big Bend region, which had yet to recover from two other storms over the last 13 months. “It looks like a nuclear bomb went off,” said Michael Bobbitt, who lives in tiny Cedar Key, Fla., jutting into the Gulf of Mexico.
• Power outages: The storm knocked out power to more than 6 million customers in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia as it moved inland. Temperatures could reach 90 degrees in parts of Florida on Friday, creating another risk for vulnerable populations without air-conditioning.
• Impact elsewhere: The storm brought flooding and tornadoes to much of the Southeast and landslides around Asheville, N.C., and a landslide blocked all lanes of Interstate 40 in the mountains east of the city. At least 20 people were reported dead in three states, including seven in Florida and 11 in Georgia.

Yabbut, the weather is great in Santa Monica!

 

[Playball40]

It is a catastrophic 61 degrees this morning, oh the humanity!! #PrayForSantaMonica

Meanwhile, Hurricane Helene is currently prog'd to intensify to a Cat 3 in 24 hrs... with probably a strong likelihood it'll get to at least a Cat 4 in the 36 hour run up to landfall.

OMG!!! And hurricanes are unheard of in the region I assume?

Rapid intensification for any storm in the Gulf is a new thing in the last couple of decades,

Is it really though?

Personally, I can't wait until your home is swallowed up in a fissure from an earthquake.

That's nice.

Yes, it is.

 

[Playball40]

About 1/2 of South Carolina has received 6+ inches (0.04124 cm) of rain. A decent area has gotten over 12 inches (74,476 cm). River gauges are shooting up.

Tampa is assessing the damage from the storm... that didn't even hit Tampa, it brushed it. This storm is moving fast, but still dropping a ton of rain, causing massive flooding in GA, NC, SC.

These are the bonus touches that Rapid Intensification can provide, where a storm can pop a few categories in 24 to 36 hours.

Record storm surges up most of the W coast of Florida. So many I know are underwater. I was lucky, it didn't reach me.