Climate Change(d)?

[Elixir]

Wouldn’t it be Valley Boy? “Guy” would go with “gal” or “doll”, right?

Palmdale isn’t in the San Fernando Valley. Maybe he lives in Reseda, where it is predicted to be 73 and sunny today

When I rented my first house, it was in Tujunga Canyon, and Palmdale was “just aways” over the hill. I thought of it as the gateway to the South End of The Valley. And Santa Monica is nowhere near any of it.
Big problem in my mind is trying to visualize all those homeless people wandering around the farmlands of the Central Valley. Swiz can’t possibly live there. Bakersfield? Fresno? They prob’ly have plenty of drunken migrants to feed his rage, so that might make sense.

 

[bilby]

In thermodynamics it all depends on where you draw the system boundary.

Duh, around Santa Monica, obviously.

 

[Elixir]

In thermodynamics it all depends on where you draw the system boundary.

Duh, around Santa Monica, obviously.

B-b-but its most important resident… isn’t?

 

[DBT]

Here is a higher estimate.

 

[steve_bank]

We are just getting through an historic week long set of storms.

A number of minor levee breaches.

The flooding is apocalyptic in some areas. The worse storms I have experienced. Unseasonably high temperatures. Cod front comes in behind the storms and you get high winds.

Area winds > 100 mph. My corner apartment is up on a hill overlooking the bay. Several hours of loud sustained buffeting winds.

I went out shopping. I weigh 180lbs and I was getting knocked around,

Can't say global warming increased intensity but it is a suspect. We have had the Pineapple Express before, but nothing like this.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

We are just getting through an historic week long set of storms.

A number of minor levee breaches.

The flooding is apocalyptic in some areas. The worse storms I have experienced. Unseasonably high temperatures. Cod front comes in behind the storms and you get high winds.

Area winds > 100 mph. My corner apartment is up on a hill overlooking the bay. Several hours of loud sustained buffeting winds.

I went out shopping. I weigh 180lbs and I was getting knocked around,

Can't say global warming increased intensity but it is a suspect. We have had the Pineapple Express before, but nothing like this.

Yes and no. One river was at record stage in Washington and the article was selling it as never seen before, but it was only a few inches above the top three levels recorded, and it has staged close to this very high level several times. And usually this time of the year (November, December).

 

[steve_bank]

From daily reporting multiple rivers but not all setting high water marks.

The scale of flooding is not hype.

 

[Elixir]

Colder yesterday in Alabama than at 7500 feet in the Colorado Rockies.
This is the first ever December I’ve had my horse go un-blanketed for weeks.

 

[steve_bank]

In 1979 on my way cross country I stayed at a friend of a friend's house in Boulder.

When I was driving around I thought it interesting the Coors brewery was not too far from the Rocky Flats Nuke Plant. It explained why Coors does not need to pasteurize the beer, all that radiation kills the bacteria.

I hear that the lower O2 and higher radiation living high up in the mountains can have some weird effects.

 

[southernhybrid]

It was in the low 20s, 2 days ago, but it's in the low 60s today. We've been having yo-yo temps in Georgia for weeks. It's either 15 to 17 degrees above normal or 15 or so below normal. Crazy weather like I've never seen. I'm glad I'm not in Indy where it was -2 the other day, but in the 40s today.

 

[robnisch]

There is almost no snow in the west!
This next storm may bring some but we are hurting bad for snow pack.

 

[steve_bank]

I saw a time lapse sequence year by year showing loss of snow packs.

the Cascades are experiencing significant snowpack loss, with long-term declines (e.g., 23-48% decrease by 2007 at some sites) driven by warming temperatures, leading to earlier spring melt and reduced water supply, though recent trends show high variability; glaciers are shrinking drastically (losing significant volume), and studies predict severe future reductions, with some suggesting potential loss of snowpack within 50 years due to climate change.

Potentially catastrophic for agriculture.

Columbia River
Yes, global warming is projected to cause significant changes, leading to
earlier, higher spring floods but lower summer flows and increased water temperatures, creating "drawdowns" or water shortages in summer for irrigation, hydropower, and salmon, as less snowpack melts later in the year, stressing ecosystems and management.

Both eastern Oregon ad Washington are semi arid. When I was up on Mt Hood back in the 80s yio could see it. Driven eastern Washington many times. In summer I'd stop to swim at the Colombia River crossing.

Eastern Oregon agriculture is a diverse sector dominated by livestock (especially beef cattle), wheat, hay, potatoes, onions, and sugar beets, supported by extensive rangelands and irrigated areas like the Umatilla Basin. Key research hubs like the EOARC Research Center (Oregon State University/USDA) focus on rangeland management, beef cattle, and sustainable systems, integrating production with conservation in the unique sagebrush-steppe environment.

Eastern Washington agriculture thrives in its dry, warm climate, focusing on vast wheat fields (dryland farming in the Palouse), irrigated crops like apples, potatoes, and wine grapes ( Yakima/Columbia Basin), plus dairy, cattle, mint, and hops, using high-tech methods for efficiency while facing water challenges, making it a top US producer for many crops, notes Choose Washington State, WSU, WSU Extension, WSDA, and Washington Grown.

Eastern Washington and Oregon's Columbia irrigation relies on the massive Bureau of Reclamation's Columbia Basin Project (CBP), using water pumped from the Columbia River via Grand Coulee Dam to a network of canals (like the Main Canal, East Low Canal) feeding storage lakes (Banks Lake, Potholes Reservoir) and delivering water to vast farms for crops like potatoes, wheat, and sugar beets, transforming arid land into productive agriculture, with districts like the East Columbia Basin Irrigation District (ECBID) managing delivery and even recycling runoff for sustainability.

Food supplies are at risk to say the least.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

From daily reporting multiple rivers but not all setting high water marks.

The scale of flooding is not hype.

It is hype, for at least that article on that river. Yes, it is flooding, yes, it was an atmospheric river that dumped a lot of rain, but this happens, a lot.

The link I provided includes all of the crests, and there are alot of similar crests.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It was in the low 20s, 2 days ago, but it's in the low 60s today. We've been having yo-yo temps in Georgia for weeks. It's either 15 to 17 degrees above normal or 15 or so below normal. Crazy weather like I've never seen. I'm glad I'm not in Indy where it was -2 the other day, but in the 40s today.

In NE Ohio, the weather in November was close to normal and December has had lower lows than usual, but otherwise, it has been winter.