Clinton supporters attack Sanders

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

So I've decided to give this thread title this name because of the way that people are labeling alleged Sanders supporters and their alleged behaviors. You can decide for yourself if the label is a fair representation of words being flung around.

In Oakland, Sanders was having a rally. Some animal rights activists belonging to the group Direct Action Everywhere stood up and tried to rush him. Secret Service disrupted them and then brought away those several people.

The recent history on the animal rights group is that initially their spokesperson Russell Simmons had endorsed Sanders. Then later he switched to Clinton, saying that Sanders supports "animal agribusiness." That is now the manner in which the group is critical of Sanders.

 

[Rhea]

Nobody should be "rushing a stage." That's violence, it's threatening and it's wrong. I hope they are identified and arrested.

And it does nothing AT ALL to help their cause.

 

[Terrell]

Nobody should be "rushing a stage." That's violence, it's threatening and it's wrong. I hope they are identified and arrested.

And it does nothing AT ALL to help their cause.

Agreed. Criticism is fair game, but assault or any other form of unlawful violence is not acceptable.

 

[laughing dog]

I am beginning to think we are approaching the end of times.

 

[RavenSky]

I'm pretty sure Don wants more than for Rhea and others to simply agree that rushing the stage and other types of violence is unacceptable. I suspect he wants us to say that Hillary Clinton should make an unambiguous apology to Bernie Sanders over the incident because, you know...

a flip-flopping spokesperson of an animal rights organization at a rally is exactly the same as party delegates at a convention.

 

[laughing dog]

I think it is a damn shame that any candidate for any office anywhere in the world, let alone the USA, needs to tell his or her supporters to behave responsibly.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I'm pretty sure Don wants more than for Rhea and others to simply agree that rushing the stage and other types of violence is unacceptable. I suspect he wants us to say that Hillary Clinton should make an unambiguous apology to Bernie Sanders over the incident because, you know...

a flip-flopping spokesperson of an animal rights organization at a rally is exactly the same as party delegates at a convention.

What I'd really like to see is for people to recognize how neither side is pure and innocent by seeing what supporters and delegates [since Clinton's establishment people are tyrants] do. On a scale of violence I'd give this event a ZERO but on a scale of feeling threatened I'd give it a 3. Likewise, on a scale of 1 to 10 for Bernie supporters booing and hissing, holding up a chair, I'd give that a 1 for feeling threatened and a 4 for being annoying.

Real issue: war. I'd give Clinton a 7 for being pro-war and Bernie a 2. That's really what matters but I think people need to get over their favorite candidate and their supporters being imperfect before they can even analyze the issues without bias.

 

[Elixir]

I'm pretty sure Don wants more than for Rhea and others to simply agree that rushing the stage and other types of violence is unacceptable. I suspect he wants us to say that Hillary Clinton should make an unambiguous apology to Bernie Sanders over the incident ...

That's WAY down the list of unambiguous apologies she owes...

 

[Rhea]

Neither side is pure and innocent.
Moore-cough-Coulter

If these were actual representatives of Clinton's party - e.g. delegates to her convention - I would hope she would not only make a public statement, but also make it TO THEM and FROM HER disapproving their actions.

In this case, it would certainly be beneficial for her to proclaim "This kind of act does not support my values or my campaign. No, I won't pay your legal fees, and no I do not approve. Grow up and shape up."

And she should probably leave off, "I can understand why, as former Sanders supporters, you'd feel cheated and dismayed!" unless she adds, "but that is no excuse for violent behavior. None. Don't come to my campaign with that attitude."

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Neither side is pure and innocent.
Moore-cough-Coulter

If these were actual representatives of Clinton's party - e.g. delegates to her convention - I would hope she would not only make a public statement, but also make it TO THEM and FROM HER disapproving their actions.

In this case, it would certainly be beneficial for her to proclaim "This kind of act does not support my values or my campaign. No, I won't pay your legal fees, and no I do not approve. Grow up and shape up."

And she should probably leave off, "I can understand why, as former Sanders supporters, you'd feel cheated and dismayed!" unless she adds, "but that is no excuse for violent behavior. None. Don't come to my campaign with that attitude."

Again, a paltry issue in comparison to war.

Where's the apology to people killed in wars?

ETA: and just for gits and shiggles, I do see that you left out the minor tyrants of Nevada who are indeed Clintons people. While Clinton could offer some kind of apology or tell them they were wrong, it's also a very minor issue in comparison to her choices over wars that ended up killing innocents.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Neither side is pure and innocent.
Moore-cough-Coulter

If these were actual representatives of Clinton's party - e.g. delegates to her convention - I would hope she would not only make a public statement, but also make it TO THEM and FROM HER disapproving their actions.

In this case, it would certainly be beneficial for her to proclaim "This kind of act does not support my values or my campaign. No, I won't pay your legal fees, and no I do not approve. Grow up and shape up."

And she should probably leave off, "I can understand why, as former Sanders supporters, you'd feel cheated and dismayed!" unless she adds, "but that is no excuse for violent behavior. None. Don't come to my campaign with that attitude."

Again, a paltry issue in comparison to war.

Where's the apology to people killed in wars?

ETA: and just for gits and shiggles, I do see that you left out the minor tyrants of Nevada who are indeed Clintons people. While Clinton could offer some kind of apology or tell them they were wrong, it's also a very minor issue in comparison to her choices over wars that ended up killing innocents.

I was against the US invasion of Iraq as well. However, do you think that HRC thought that the invasion would lead to innocents being killed? Secondly, I hope that you realize that Trump initially supported the invasion as well.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Again, a paltry issue in comparison to war.

Where's the apology to people killed in wars?

ETA: and just for gits and shiggles, I do see that you left out the minor tyrants of Nevada who are indeed Clintons people. While Clinton could offer some kind of apology or tell them they were wrong, it's also a very minor issue in comparison to her choices over wars that ended up killing innocents.

I was against the US invasion of Iraq as well. However, do you think that HRC thought that the invasion would lead to innocents being killed? Secondly, I hope that you realize that Trump initially supported the invasion as well.

Wars, plural--there's an "s" at the end--and why are you talking about Crazy, Crooked Trump?

 

[bilby]

I think it is a damn shame that any candidate for any office anywhere in the world, let alone the USA, needs to tell his or her supporters to behave responsibly.

LOTS of things about humanity are a damn shame.

But then, like D.R. said, "That's life"