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Conceptual penis as social construct: hoax paper easily passes peer review and is published

What, are you thick or something? YES obviously I am talking about you. That's why I quoted you. Who else would I be talking about??
Address the ideas. If you can.

I don't give two shits what you think of me.

That's good. Because if you did, you could be in a very bad place right now.

Express some ideas, if you can; Then I shall address them.

"Everyone else is wrong and stupid" isn't actually an idea. You need to start saying something else, if you want to have a discussion.

You are a bore. A bothersome gnat.
Apparently you are looking in a mirror.
Published research is a mixed bag.

Some of it is extremely good. But most of the good research appears in a small number of journals.

There is a lot of research that is structurally sound but the conclusions are far from sound out there.
Your talent for stating the obvious is second only to your talent for saying nothing at all.
To deny it is just to be an ignorant child.

I don't deny it; What makes you imagine for an instant that I would?

Just because someone thinks you are wasting your time posting banal and obvious shit, interspersed with (apparently unironic) insults about everyone else's understanding, knowledge or intelligence, that doesn't mean they think you are wrong. Just a time-waster.
 
That's not what it means, in the quantitative sciences, let alone in the these areas of "sociology" which are not even social sciences but *bad philosophy.* "Normal statistical methods" are irrelevant. Even in the natural sciences, when a paper is submitted for review it is given to relevant experts to review and the process involves more than a mere check for the soundness of your statistical methods.
Well, but how do you explain explosion of garbage publications in recent decades?

Just another day in our capitalist utopia.
 
What, are you thick or something? YES obviously I am talking about you. That's why I quoted you. Who else would I be talking about??
Address the ideas. If you can.

I don't give two shits what you think of me.

That's good. Because if you did, you could be in a very bad place right now.

Express some ideas, if you can; Then I shall address them.

"Everyone else is wrong and stupid" isn't actually an idea. You need to start saying something else, if you want to have a discussion.

You are a bore. A bothersome gnat.
Apparently you are looking in a mirror.
Published research is a mixed bag.

Some of it is extremely good. But most of the good research appears in a small number of journals.

There is a lot of research that is structurally sound but the conclusions are far from sound out there.
Your talent for stating the obvious is second only to your talent for saying nothing at all.
To deny it is just to be an ignorant child.

I don't deny it; What makes you imagine for an instant that I would?

Just because someone thinks you are wasting your time posting banal and obvious shit, interspersed with (apparently unironic) insults about everyone else's understanding, knowledge or intelligence, that doesn't mean they think you are wrong. Just a time-waster.

So what is it asshole?

Am I some super egotistical tyrant, or just posting obvious truths?

I'll give your pea brain a hint. It can't be both.
 
What, are you thick or something? YES obviously I am talking about you. That's why I quoted you. Who else would I be talking about??
Address the ideas. If you can.

I don't give two shits what you think of me.

That's good. Because if you did, you could be in a very bad place right now.

Express some ideas, if you can; Then I shall address them.

"Everyone else is wrong and stupid" isn't actually an idea. You need to start saying something else, if you want to have a discussion.

You are a bore. A bothersome gnat.
Apparently you are looking in a mirror.
Published research is a mixed bag.

Some of it is extremely good. But most of the good research appears in a small number of journals.

There is a lot of research that is structurally sound but the conclusions are far from sound out there.
Your talent for stating the obvious is second only to your talent for saying nothing at all.
To deny it is just to be an ignorant child.

I don't deny it; What makes you imagine for an instant that I would?

Just because someone thinks you are wasting your time posting banal and obvious shit, interspersed with (apparently unironic) insults about everyone else's understanding, knowledge or intelligence, that doesn't mean they think you are wrong. Just a time-waster.

So what is it asshole?

Am I some super egotistical tyrant, or just posting obvious truths?

I'll give your pea brain a hint. It can't be both.

It certainly can, and apparently is.

There is absolutely nothing mutually exclusive about these options. Something that is bloody obvious, even to my pea brain.
 
It certainly can, and apparently is.

There is absolutely nothing mutually exclusive about these options. Something that is bloody obvious, even to my pea brain.

How is one tyrannized with obvious facts?

Only somebody insane can be bothered by obvious facts.
 
It certainly can, and apparently is.

There is absolutely nothing mutually exclusive about these options. Something that is bloody obvious, even to my pea brain.

How is one tyrannized with obvious facts?

Only somebody insane can be bothered by obvious facts.

Only somebody insane thinks he can only ever do one or the other. Humans (and I assume that you are one) are able to do more than one thing. Even really stupid humans. But that they can, does not imply that they should.
 
How is one tyrannized with obvious facts?

Only somebody insane can be bothered by obvious facts.

Only somebody insane thinks he can only ever do one or the other. Humans (and I assume that you are one) are able to do more than one thing. Even really stupid humans. But that they can, does not imply that they should.

You have shown an ability to avoid the question.

Try answering it.

Show me how one is tyrannized by obvious facts.

Your attacks of healthy skeptical inquiry displays a real ignorance.
 
Only somebody insane thinks he can only ever do one or the other. Humans (and I assume that you are one) are able to do more than one thing. Even really stupid humans. But that they can, does not imply that they should.

You have shown an ability to avoid the question.

Try answering it.

Show me how one is tyrannized by obvious facts.

Your attacks of healthy skeptical inquiry displays a real ignorance.

You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first.
 
You have shown an ability to avoid the question.

Try answering it.

Show me how one is tyrannized by obvious facts.

Your attacks of healthy skeptical inquiry displays a real ignorance.

You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first.

How long will you avoid the question?

How does one tyrannize with obvious facts?

You show me over and over how one bores with tedious preening.
 
You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first.

How long will you avoid the question?

How does one tyrannize with obvious facts?

You show me over and over how one bores with tedious preening.

You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first. Why are you avoiding that question?
 
That's not what it means, in the quantitative sciences, let alone in the these areas of "sociology" which are not even social sciences but *bad philosophy.* "Normal statistical methods" are irrelevant. Even in the natural sciences, when a paper is submitted for review it is given to relevant experts to review and the process involves more than a mere check for the soundness of your statistical methods.

You're living in a dream world.

I'm describing the real one.

Publications have a lot of space to fill.

If they were as choosy as you claim they would not fill much of it.
I'm not claiming that they are particularly choosy. There is vast diversity between and within different fields with regards to the choosiness of any given journal. But most of the time oftentimes a cursory look is given at statistics, and most fields are guilty of "cargo-cult" stats. In the less rigorous journals, oftentimes is just people who are knowledgable in the field that is far-removed from statistics.

But my point was merely that some journals don't look at stats or data because the articles don't involve stats or data.
 
How long will you avoid the question?

How does one tyrannize with obvious facts?

You show me over and over how one bores with tedious preening.

You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first. Why are you avoiding that question?

You are miles from showing anything about ignorance.

For you to even talk about it is a joke.

Now how does one tyrannize with obvious facts?

Or do you retract your nonsense?
 
You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first. Why are you avoiding that question?

You are miles from showing anything about ignorance.

For you to even talk about it is a joke.

Now how does one tyrannize with obvious facts?

Or do you retract your nonsense?

You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first. Why are you avoiding that question?

Or do you retract your nonsense?
 
You're living in a dream world.

I'm describing the real one.

Publications have a lot of space to fill.

If they were as choosy as you claim they would not fill much of it.
I'm not claiming that they are particularly choosy. There is vast diversity between and within different fields with regards to the choosiness of any given journal. But most of the time oftentimes a cursory look is given at statistics, and most fields are guilty of "cargo-cult" stats. In the less rigorous journals, oftentimes is just people who are knowledgable in the field that is far-removed from statistics.

But my point was merely that some journals don't look at stats or data because the articles don't involve stats or data.

But do the journal editors say they stand by the conclusions?

When letters are sent do the editors defend the paper or are the authors expected to defend it?
 
You are miles from showing anything about ignorance.

For you to even talk about it is a joke.

Now how does one tyrannize with obvious facts?

Or do you retract your nonsense?

You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first. Why are you avoiding that question?

Or do you retract your nonsense?

What nonsense?

You are a dick that for some reason doesn't like healthy skeptical inquiry.

A stupid pest with absolutely nothing to add.

And you claimed a person could tyrannize with obvious facts a few posts ago.

And like some kind of insect are now scurrying away from that idiotic nonsense as fast as you can.
 
You show me how an ignorant person can make a healthy skeptical inquiry first. Why are you avoiding that question?

Or do you retract your nonsense?

What nonsense?

You are a dick that for some reason doesn't like healthy skeptical inquiry.

A stupid pest with absolutely nothing to add.

And you claimed a person could tyrannize with obvious facts a few posts ago.

And like some kind of insect are now scurrying away from that idiotic nonsense as fast as you can.

No, I am just annoying the crap out of you by asking you to defend something you never claimed - because I really, really hope that you might realize that doing that is FUCKING POINTLESS AND REALLY ANNOYING.

And you do it all the fucking time.

Your posts invariably consist of a combination of: Insulting everyone else's claims without offering any alternative; Posting the bleeding bloody obvious; or Demanding that people defend things that they never said.

Why not, just for once, post something - anything - that you can actually support with evidence; that isn't bloody obvious; that isn't an insult to another poster; and that isn't a demand for someone to prove something that you misinterpreted them as saying?

I used to think that you were too stupid to realize that your misinterpretations of other posters positions constituted an error on your part; But now I am thinking that it's a deliberate technique to avoid admission of your earlier errors.

Well, you are not fooling anyone.
 
You're not teaching anything. That is some delusion you have.

You are pure annoyance.

On the level of a gnat landing on my arm.

So please again, tell me how one tyrannizes with simple facts?

Or shut up.
 
The androcentric scientific and meta-scientific evidence that the penis is the male reproductive organ is considered overwhelming and largely uncontroversial.

That’s how we began. We used this preposterous sentence to open a “paper” consisting of 3,000 words of utter nonsense posing as academic scholarship. Then a peer-reviewed academic journal in the social sciences accepted and published it.

This paper should never have been published. Titled, “The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct,” our paper “argues” that “The penis vis-à-vis maleness is an incoherent construct. We argue that the conceptual penis is better understood not as an anatomical organ but as a gender-performative, highly fluid social construct.” As if to prove philosopher David Hume’s claim that there is a deep gap between what is and what ought to be, our should-never-have-been-published paper was published in the open-access (meaning that articles are freely accessible and not behind a paywall), peer-reviewed journal Cogent Social Sciences. (In case the PDF is removed, we’ve archived it.)

Assuming the pen names “Jamie Lindsay” and “Peter Boyle,” and writing for the fictitious “Southeast Independent Social Research Group,” we wrote an absurd paper loosely composed in the style of post-structuralist discursive gender theory. The paper was ridiculous by intention, essentially arguing that penises shouldn’t be thought of as male genital organs but as damaging social constructions. We made no attempt to find out what “post-structuralist discursive gender theory” actually means. We assumed that if we were merely clear in our moral implications that maleness is intrinsically bad and that the penis is somehow at the root of it, we could get the paper published in a respectable journal.

http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room...-contruct-sokal-style-hoax-on-gender-studies/

I can't say I'm surprised. So much of what passes for social "science" these days is just mumbo jumbo bullshit.

True, but it's really hard to tell for sure when the bullshit is being published in a field beyond your area of expertise.

The problem is, the experts in the field who would otherwise recognize bullshit are THEMSELVES guilty of occasional acts of bullshit. They have a gentleman's agreement with their peers not to call bullshit on such publications because their careers depend on them publishing a large number of papers on a large number of topics and cranking out research in large volumes. Nobody is going to check if the research is bullshit because, ironically, nobody really bothers to READ those papers even when they review them, partially because they already know the papers are bullshit, but mostly because depending on other people's research isn't very helpful for your career.
 
This seems to be a good example of the kind of nonsense that Skeptic was alluding to:

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/feminist-scholar-creates-intersectional-quantum-physics-to-fight-oppression/

A feminist scholar with no academic training in physics has developed a theory of “intersectional quantum physics” to fight oppression.

Whitney Stark, a scholar affiliated with the University of Arizona and Utrecht University in the Netherlands, published her latest theory in a journal published by Duke University Press.

In the 2017 edition of the Minnesota Review, the feminist academic argued that “combining intersectionality and quantum physics” will help to understand “marginalized people” and create “safer spaces” for them.

If there was ever an archetypical example of Poe's Law, this would be it.

:hysterical:
 
This seems to be a good example of the kind of nonsense that Skeptic was alluding to:

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/feminist-scholar-creates-intersectional-quantum-physics-to-fight-oppression/

A feminist scholar with no academic training in physics has developed a theory of “intersectional quantum physics” to fight oppression.

Whitney Stark, a scholar affiliated with the University of Arizona and Utrecht University in the Netherlands, published her latest theory in a journal published by Duke University Press.

In the 2017 edition of the Minnesota Review, the feminist academic argued that “combining intersectionality and quantum physics” will help to understand “marginalized people” and create “safer spaces” for them.

If there was ever an archetypical example of Poe's Law, this would be it.

:hysterical:

Journals with loose standards.

What are we to do?

Close the Universities? Defund them?

Get the government more involved in the process of maintaining academic standards?
 
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