Conservatives politicizing forest fires

[lpetrich]

'I've never been so afraid': Oregon fire evacuees face unrecognizable landscape | Oregon | The Guardian

At the grassy creekside park to the rear of the Elk’s Lodge in Milwaukie, Oregon, about 100 evacuees were quartered in an assortment of RVs, cars, and tents.

Some, like Eric Sam, a lumber mill worker, had evacuated twice in recent days.

“First we were in Oregon City, then they moved us here.”

Sam said he, his wife and their three teenage children had first fled Molalla for the grounds of Clackamas Community College on Tuesday. Then, late on Thursday, the college, along with most of Oregon City, was elevated to a level two fire danger warning.

Sam’s employer, also located near Molalla, had shut its doors in the face of conditions one could only describe as movie-like. A picture on his phone showed the family’s house a few days back, bathed in blood red light refracted through thick smoke.

A Line of Fire South of Portland and a Yearslong Recovery Ahead - The New York Times

SALEM, Ore. — A 36-mile-wide line of flames edged into the towns around Portland, Ore., and cities along the West Coast were smothered in acrid smoke and ash on Friday as history-making wildfires remained unchecked, killing at least 17 and leaving dozens of people missing.

“We are preparing for a mass fatality incident based on what we know and the numbers of structures that have been lost,” Andrew Phelps, director of the Oregon Office of Emergency Management, said as firefighters struggled to contain blazes that have spread across millions of acres of the Pacific Northwest.

Fires in California, Oregon and Washington have torn through idyllic mountain towns, reduced neighborhoods to ash and spewed so much smoke that pilots were unable to pursue aerial attacks that can be critical in preventing such mass wildfires from encroaching on communities. Portland’s mayor, fearing the possibility that fires could start and spread in the city, has declared a state of emergency.

Combined, the states have seen nearly five million acres consumed by fire — a land mass approaching the size of New Jersey — in a record-setting made worse, scientists say, by the climate change caused by the burning of fossil fuels like coal and oil. Such disasters will only become worse as the planet continues to warm.

California, Oregon and Washington Fire Tracking and Air Quality Maps - The New York Times

 

[TSwizzle]

It's beyond me who anyone can deny the influence of climate change on these catastrophic events.

It’s down to a complete lack of evidence. Just asserting that these natural and necessary phenomena are “climate change” doesn’t make it so. However, most wildfires in California are down to human activity. One of the worst fires we are currently experiencing was started by some fuckwit using pyrotechnics at a gender reveal party in the middle of basically dry tinder. Not climate change, fuckwittery of the highest order. Gavin Newsom and decades of stupid democratic (and to a lesser extent federal) policies have ensured these catastrophic wildfires are worse than ever. That insufferable prick of a governor of California uses these tragic events to promote even more dumb environmental policies. There is no doubt that it is a religion for the ignorant, anti science Newsom.

 

[bilby]

Not one shred of evidence that these wildfires are caused by climate change or due to climate change, none.

Some of these forest fires are clearly started by leftists though. Like that fire started by the gender reveal party. Turned the sky black, grey and orange. What the hell gender is that? There are only two genders: blue and pink. Anti-science, liberal snowflakes.

Are you feeling alright fella ? You seem a bit off. But in any event almost all wildfires in California are down to human interactions in one form or another. Whether it be a gender reveal party or PG&E shoddy equipment or carelessness with fireworks or whatever.

Klimate change, a kult- like religion.

Interestingly, nobody in the thread mentioned climate change until you did. It's not even hinted at by the OP, which talks about various forest management practices, contrasting clear cutting with selective logging.

It's almost as though you have zero interest in the topic, other than as a vehicle for your political beliefs; Which renders your comments about cults (or "kults") an excellent example of projection.

That's the only value your otherwise ignorant and misguided post has, so I guess that every cloud has a silver lining.