"Coronavirus and the US" or "We are all going to die!!!!"

[George S]

Mask wearing is caring.
The experts are right: Wearing even an N95 mask without eye protection is not enough. A cloth mask is not enough, and, if used improperly can cause someone who just got it and is asymptomatic to have an increased viral load.
The experts are right: Wearing even a cloth mask around others reduces the spread. A cloth mask must not be reused without washing because that will increase the viral load if you have it.
The people most at risk are over 70. It is three times as deadly as getting the flu for them. The lingering side effects range up to psychopathy or losing a lung. Being in that group myself, may I suggest that you kindly wear a mask in indoor areas where over 70's might be found. Do not cough on said individuals.
Be kind; wear a mask around the elderly and others whose condition puts them at risk.

Oh, btw, this doesn't take government orders. Just accurate info.

 

[steve_bank]

Mask wearing is caring.
The experts are right: Wearing even an N95 mask without eye protection is not enough. A cloth mask is not enough, and, if used improperly can cause someone who just got it and is asymptomatic to have an increased viral load.
The experts are right: Wearing even a cloth mask around others reduces the spread. A cloth mask must not be reused without washing because that will increase the viral load if you have it.
The people most at risk are over 70. It is three times as deadly as getting the flu for them. The lingering side effects range up to psychopathy or losing a lung. Being in that group myself, may I suggest that you kindly wear a mask in indoor areas where over 70's might be found. Do not cough on said individuals.
Be kind; wear a mask around the elderly and others whose condition puts them at risk.

Oh, btw, this doesn't take government orders. Just accurate info.

Conclusion...bend over and kiss your ass goodbye?

 

[George S]

Mask wearing is caring.
The experts are right: Wearing even an N95 mask without eye protection is not enough. A cloth mask is not enough, and, if used improperly can cause someone who just got it and is asymptomatic to have an increased viral load.
The experts are right: Wearing even a cloth mask around others reduces the spread. A cloth mask must not be reused without washing because that will increase the viral load if you have it.
The people most at risk are over 70. It is three times as deadly as getting the flu for them. The lingering side effects range up to psychopathy or losing a lung. Being in that group myself, may I suggest that you kindly wear a mask in indoor areas where over 70's might be found. Do not cough on said individuals.
Be kind; wear a mask around the elderly and others whose condition puts them at risk.

Oh, btw, this doesn't take government orders. Just accurate info.

Conclusion...bend over and kiss your ass goodbye?

If you find no other alternative ... feel free.
It would be more engaging if you addressed what I said rather than attempting mind reading.
However, I am suggesting doing risk management and be kind to those at risk. Which is what I said in the above post.

 

[J842P]

Mask wearing is caring.
The experts are right: Wearing even an N95 mask without eye protection is not enough. A cloth mask is not enough, and, if used improperly can cause someone who just got it and is asymptomatic to have an increased viral load.
The experts are right: Wearing even a cloth mask around others reduces the spread. A cloth mask must not be reused without washing because that will increase the viral load if you have it.
The people most at risk are over 70. It is three times as deadly as getting the flu for them. The lingering side effects range up to psychopathy or losing a lung. Being in that group myself, may I suggest that you kindly wear a mask in indoor areas where over 70's might be found. Do not cough on said individuals.
Be kind; wear a mask around the elderly and others whose condition puts them at risk.

Oh, btw, this doesn't take government orders. Just accurate info.

No, why should I?

 

[George S]

Mask wearing is caring.
The experts are right: Wearing even an N95 mask without eye protection is not enough. A cloth mask is not enough, and, if used improperly can cause someone who just got it and is asymptomatic to have an increased viral load.
The experts are right: Wearing even a cloth mask around others reduces the spread. A cloth mask must not be reused without washing because that will increase the viral load if you have it.
The people most at risk are over 70. It is three times as deadly as getting the flu for them. The lingering side effects range up to psychopathy or losing a lung. Being in that group myself, may I suggest that you kindly wear a mask in indoor areas where over 70's might be found. Do not cough on said individuals.
Be kind; wear a mask around the elderly and others whose condition puts them at risk.

Oh, btw, this doesn't take government orders. Just accurate info.

No, why should I?

Why should you be kind? I guess it is a moral decision.
Reciprocity works. If you are kind to others they may be kind to you. (If you need a selfish motive.)

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Mask wearing is caring.
The experts are right: Wearing even an N95 mask without eye protection is not enough. A cloth mask is not enough, and, if used improperly can cause someone who just got it and is asymptomatic to have an increased viral load.
The experts are right: Wearing even a cloth mask around others reduces the spread. A cloth mask must not be reused without washing because that will increase the viral load if you have it.
The people most at risk are over 70. It is three times as deadly as getting the flu for them. The lingering side effects range up to psychopathy or losing a lung. Being in that group myself, may I suggest that you kindly wear a mask in indoor areas where over 70's might be found. Do not cough on said individuals.
Be kind; wear a mask around the elderly and others whose condition puts them at risk.

Oh, btw, this doesn't take government orders. Just accurate info.

No, why should I?

Why should you be kind? I guess it is a moral decision.
Reciprocity works. If you are kind to others they may be kind to you. (If you need a selfish motive.)

Japan is a good example of a country where an educated and loyal population took the necessary steps to contain the spread of the virus but without the draconian measures other countries did. They make the U.S. look like a bunch of idiots.

Coronavirus: Japan's mysteriously low virus death rate

 

[fromderinside]

Why should you be kind? I guess it is a moral decision.
Reciprocity works. If you are kind to others they may be kind to you. (If you need a selfish motive.)

Japan is a good example of a country where an educated and loyal population took the necessary steps to contain the spread of the virus but without the draconian measures other countries did. They make the U.S. look like a bunch of idiots.

Coronavirus: Japan's mysteriously low virus death rate

Maybe those attributes also explains differences in multiculturalism, birth rates, range of religions, height, weight, life span and assorted other population attributes from Americans as well, or, maybe not. Just whistling ......

Multiculturalism in a “homogeneous” society from the perspectives of an intercultural event in Japan; https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs...1080/1683478x.2019.1710332&journalCode=raan20

Japan mystery of low birth rates https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/07/japan-mystery-low-birth-rate/534291/

Problems of Teaching about Relgion in Japan https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01416200601037494?scroll=top&needAccess=true

Japan Demographics: What’s the Average Life Expectancy, Height, and Monthly Income? https://livejapan.com/en/in-tokyo/in-pref-tokyo/in-shinjuku/article-a0000962/

 

[steve_bank]

Japan is a homogeneous culture that thinks more collectively than individually. Contrast to the USA where idiots declare they have a constructional right to not wear a mask and do what they want regardless of consequences.

Back in the 80s I went to an engineering conference in Dayton Ohio, it was international. At the time I thought it odd some Asians were wearing masks....

After I spent time first in a nursing home then assisted living where flu can run through the place I naturally now wear a mask if I feel sick and if there is flu around me pre covid19.

No hands to mouth, nose, eyes as well.

In a place of 100 people one person gets the flu and it does not take long to spread.

 

[angelo]

The unselfish adage uttered by the great JFK way back then has never held so true as today amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but instead ask what you can do for your country. end quote.... and for your community.

 

[southernhybrid]

I read that during the pandemic of 1918, St. Louis had the lowest number of cases during the 2nd wave because people wore masks and practiced social distancing. LA, on the other hand, thought they only needed to wear masks to be protected. The masks back then were gauze, so the numbers rose drastically in LA. Sad, that after all these years, mask wearing and social distancing are still the best ways to avoid viral spread. '

Anyway, my neighbor just told me that her cousin died of COVID and nobody knows how she got infected. My guess is that the only family member who visited her regularly might have had an asymptomatic case, and he infected her.

Another neighbor who lives about 6 housed away from me, lost her husband to the virus. But, he was living in a nursing home and was in his 80s. The nursing home he was in had the highest death rate in my county. Oddly enough, it's always been the highest rated home in the area. The virus in that facility came early in March before we knew that much about what was going on.

 

[George S]

The unselfish adage uttered by the great JFK way back then has never held so true as today amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but instead ask what you can do for your country. end quote.... and for your community.

If the Democrat party had not changed from JFK's philosophy I could be a Democrat. I interviewed RFK for an hour when I was in high school. They ran a superb campaign.
Too bad the party has become progressive socialist.

 

[fromderinside]

Funny. My impression is it's become social democrat rather than progressive whatever. The party seems to be adapting to provide social underpinning for the reality of international corporatism and multiculturalism. That is it's adopting a more humanist rather than oppositionist stance. Love those 'ists'. Almost sounds sciency with 'em.

 

[bilby]

The unselfish adage uttered by the great JFK way back then has never held so true as today amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but instead ask what you can do for your country. end quote.... and for your community.

If the Democrat party had not changed from JFK's philosophy I could be a Democrat. I interviewed RFK for an hour when I was in high school. They ran a superb campaign.
Too bad the party has become progressive socialist.

Given that you have a two party system, and that one of those parties are the current Republicans, you would have to be completely insane NOT to be a Democrat - even without knowledge of any of their policies. As Winston Churchill said, "If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons".

Some organisations are so bad that you need to support whoever has the best chance of defeating them.

 

[steve_bank]

Here in Washington required immunization has been a hot topic. It is nit just covid19, it is our hyper exaggerated sense of the individual above the group.

 

[lpetrich]

The unselfish adage uttered by the great JFK way back then has never held so true as today amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but instead ask what you can do for your country. end quote.... and for your community.

Does that include paying taxes?

 

[angelo]

The unselfish adage uttered by the great JFK way back then has never held so true as today amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but instead ask what you can do for your country. end quote.... and for your community.

Does that include paying taxes?

Well, unless and when someone finds a way to plant trees that actually sprout real money, yes, paying taxes to keep the welfare state's existence and recipients in place and to the manner it is used to, there's no other way.

 

[lpetrich]

The unselfish adage uttered by the great JFK way back then has never held so true as today amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but instead ask what you can do for your country. end quote.... and for your community.

Does that include paying taxes?

Well, unless and when someone finds a way to plant trees that actually sprout real money, yes, paying taxes to keep the welfare state's existence and recipients in place and to the manner it is used to, there's no other way.

So taxes are unnecessary for paying for any of the functions of government that right-wingers crave so much?

 

[barbos]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.01.20144592v1
Africans are more likely to die from COVID-19 because of genetics.

 

[ronburgundy]

The unselfish adage uttered by the great JFK way back then has never held so true as today amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but instead ask what you can do for your country. end quote.... and for your community.

If the Democrat party had not changed from JFK's philosophy I could be a Democrat. I interviewed RFK for an hour when I was in high school. They ran a superb campaign.
Too bad the party has become progressive socialist.

The Dems are far closer to that still than the GOP, who went from the party of Eisenhower to the party of white supremacist anti-science theocrats.

 

[ronburgundy]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.01.20144592v1
Africans are more likely to die from COVID-19 because of genetics.

Do you have a better source for you claim, becaue your cited article explicitly states that your conclusion is not supported by their data.

"We do not believe that there is enough data to confirm the hypothesis of a genetic explanation to the imbalance in survival rates in the UK as published by the ONS, despite our genetic risk variants being similarly distributed over ethnic groups. The non-coding variant in the intronic region of
ALOXE3, common to 7.6% in the African population is definitely worth checking carefully
on a larger dataset when it becomes available, since all 3 people with the variant died.
...
With the amount of data we have it is premature to say that there is an ethnic bias in genetic risk. "

They went on a fishing expedition with "a small amount of data". They looked at the entire genome and found "no significant associations" with death rates. So, they took the 5 genetic variants that were closest to significant and examined some more specific things about them. The variant that they say is the most promising predictor of fatality is actually more prevalent amoung Europeans than Africans (0.5% versus 0.0%). All 3 other coding genetic variants were also more prevalent among Europeans than Africans, but all very rare in general. They only even mention the one variant that was more common in Africans, b/c all 3 people with that variant died, but not only was it only 3 people, but it is a non-coding variant. Plus, all their data is correlational. So, nothing in that data supports genetics being the reason for Africans higher death rates. There is merely a weak hint at a possible partial contributor to the disparity that requires way more data to conclude it means anything.