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House Republicans were dealt a severe blow by a 339-page report from the Democrats on the Benghazi Select Committee who not only provided the evidence that Republicans have hidden but also detailed the Republican abuses and lies throughout the investigation.
According to the report from the Benghazi Democrats:
The Democratic report also documents the grave abuses Republicans engaged in during this investigation—from A to Z. Republicans excluded Democrats from interviews, concealed exculpatory evidence, withheld interview transcripts, leaked inaccurate information, issued unilateral subpoenas, sent armed Marshals to the home of a cooperative witness, and even conducted political fundraising by exploiting the deaths of four Americans.
“In our opinion,” the Members wrote, “Chairman Gowdy has been conducting this investigation like an overzealous prosecutor desperately trying to land a front-page conviction rather than a neutral judge of facts seeking to improve the security of our diplomatic corps.”

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The link above to "the report" links to the official report. Crooks and liars all.

 
I suppose I should be interested and outraged but this story is too played out recently.

Headline: "Republicans manufacture scandal to slander Democratic opponent."

:sleep:

After White-water, Swiftboat, Benghazi, Birthers, Hillary-Email-Gate, eventually you just lose the endurance to bother with any accusation that comes from Republicans. This boy cries wolf all the time and it's not worth listening to him anymore. Will they ever have a legitimate scandal to pin on a Democrat?

I mean the Monica Lewinsky thing was kind of real, but come on. Advertising that Bill was a player probably helped the Dems as much as it hurt them.
 
This report lists a lot of stuff in one place making it easy to access information, great for lazy media and reporters. Not whole bunches new, but in one place, in one spot. No excuses now for media to not get the story right. Now it will be interesting to see if there is any blowback for the GOP over this issue.
 
I'm sure you'll excuse those who might find a report from party A that exonerates Party A from accusations of scandal smacking of special pleading or sweeping under the rug.

Your response to Republican Report Debunks Democrat <insert favourite scandal here> Witch Hunt would be most instructive.

To avoid silly accusations I am in Australia and really don't give a damn but I loathe hypocrisy.
 
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The media does not concern itself with getting things right.

It works tirelessly to figure out which spin will bring the greatest numbers.

It strives to create controversy and conflict where none exist because humans seem to be more attracted to this than the truth.
 
I'm sure you'll excuse those who might find a report from party A that exonerates Party A from accusations of scandal smacking of special pleading or sweeping under the rug.

Your response to Republican Report Debunks Democrat <insert favourite scandal here> Witch Hunt would be most instructive.

To avoid silly accusations I am in Australia and really don't give a damn but I loathe hypocrisy.

It's a matter of lies and bullshit exposed. For example, Trey Gowdy has lied to the press repeatedly that the state department has refused to cooperate with his committee, while in fact, vast mountains of documents have been produced as requested. Out and out inflammatory lies from Gowdy, who has headed this witch hunt. So, what are we to do when the GOP does one of these witch hunts and is caught out lying and that is ignored by the press?

The report is rather damning. Really, if you aren't going to bother to even scan it, don't comment.
 
I read that the report has redacted info of $200K payments to Blumenthal for his advice. Is that true?

House Democrats mistakenly release transcript confirming big payout to Clinton friend Sidney Blumenthal

The Democrats on the House Benghazi committee released their final conclusions from the inquiry into attacks on Americans in that Libyan city in 2012, and in the report they say, once again, that the investigation is a politically motivated sham aimed at damaging the reputation of Hillary Clinton.

But the report, which the Democrats published as a preemptive strike before the Republican majority releases findings likely to charge ineptitude and deception by the former secretary of State, also revealed, apparently unintentionally, details about the eye-popping amount of money a close Clinton friend and advisor made in a contract with a pro-Clinton nonprofit.

Democrats released but redacted a transcript of Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal answering the committee’s questions to make the point that Republicans do not want the public to know what went on during the his interrogation, during which GOP members arguably used their subpoena power to conduct political opposition research unrelated to Benghazi

But the redaction marks are easily erased by anyone able to use a computer’s cut-and-paste function. Once the marks are lifted, the transcript portion reveals some unflattering things for any partisans on the committee, Republican or Democrat. It shows that Republicans did, indeed, leverage their subpoena of Blumenthal for political gain, digging into his financial contracts with David Brock and forcing him to reveal the details of a lucrative financial arrangement that congressional sources would ultimately leak to Fox News.

And for Democrats, the exchange exposes once again the absurd amounts of money people in the orbit of the Clintons sometimes seem to rake in just for, well, being in the orbit of the Clintons. “I’d say it’s about $200,000 a year,” Blumenthal said when asked by a committee member how much the part-time work offering up advice and ideas was worth.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-benghazi-democrats-20160627-snap-story.html
 
I'm sure you'll excuse those who might find a report from party A that exonerates Party A from accusations of scandal smacking of special pleading or sweeping under the rug.

Yeah, but the part where Hillary dodges past sniper fire to hoist Chris Stevens on her back and carry him 2 clicks to the medevac only to have him die in her arms because Trump sold all the medical supplies was good.
 
I suppose I should be interested and outraged but this story is too played out recently.

Headline: "Republicans manufacture scandal to slander Democratic opponent."

:sleep:

After White-water, Swiftboat, Benghazi, Birthers, Hillary-Email-Gate, eventually you just lose the endurance to bother with any accusation that comes from Republicans. This boy cries wolf all the time and it's not worth listening to him anymore. Will they ever have a legitimate scandal to pin on a Democrat?

I mean the Monica Lewinsky thing was kind of real, but come on. Advertising that Bill was a player probably helped the Dems as much as it hurt them.
I remember really disliking Linda Tripp back then. Felt a little sorry for the rest of the players.
 
I read that the report has redacted info of $200K payments to Blumenthal for his advice. Is that true?

House Democrats mistakenly release transcript confirming big payout to Clinton friend Sidney Blumenthal

It looks like it was Media Matters that gave him the big payout, for which he works. Is that a problem? How is this related to Hillary Clinton?
 
I'm sure you'll excuse those who might find a report from party A that exonerates Party A from accusations of scandal smacking of special pleading or sweeping under the rug.

Your response to Republican Report Debunks Democrat <insert favourite scandal here> Witch Hunt would be most instructive.

To avoid silly accusations I am in Australia and really don't give a damn but I loathe hypocrisy.

Your cynicism may be justified.

A 339-page report released by Democrats on the House Select Committee on Benghazi mentions Donald Trump 23 times.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/27/democrats-benghazi-report-mentions-donald-trump-23-times-for-some-reason/
 
There appears to some misconception here. No one has provided evidence that Mrs. Clinton is directly or indirectly responsible for the Benghazi incident or deaths. No one. Not after years of "investigation". That is damning enough of the multiple investigations by various Republican groups - either they are incompetent or there is nothing to find that directly or indirectly links Mrs. Clinton to that tragedy.

This partisan report does not exonerate anyone - there is no need to exonerate anyone who has not done anything. This partisan report simply provides examples and evidence of the tactics used in the last Republican "investigation". Unless there is evidence that the report's claims of relevant fact are mistaken, inaccurate or lies, it does not matter whether it is partisan or not. Unless, of course, the usual ideologues are going to argue that relevant facts are partisan.
 
Meanwhile back at the ranch...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/benghazi-report-clinton_us_57727ed2e4b017b379f74880?section=
WASHINGTON — After spending more than two years and $7 million, the House Select Committee on Benghazi released a report Tuesday that found — like eight investigations before it — no evidence of wrongdoing by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or other members of the Obama administration.
The House voted to create the committee after Republicans were frustrated that even their own GOP-led committees failed to find wrongdoing in the events surrounding the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.
But the new report also fails to find evidence of wrongdoing, revealing as all previous reports did that the administration’s response to the terror attacks was flawed, but not malicious or derelict.

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Well, time to start a new GOP investigation into Benghazi....
 
Well, I think that it's sick that the corrupt Democratic congress people are covering up for Clinton after she flew over to Benghazi and personally murdered a US Ambassador. She's never going to face justice for her crimes if the elitist Washington insiders continue to stonewall these investigations.

We need another investigation into this matter to find out why this is being allowed. :mad:
 
Meanwhile back at the ranch...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/benghazi-report-clinton_us_57727ed2e4b017b379f74880?section=
WASHINGTON — After spending more than two years and $7 million, the House Select Committee on Benghazi released a report Tuesday that found — like eight investigations before it — no evidence of wrongdoing by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or other members of the Obama administration.
The House voted to create the committee after Republicans were frustrated that even their own GOP-led committees failed to find wrongdoing in the events surrounding the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.
But the new report also fails to find evidence of wrongdoing, revealing as all previous reports did that the administration’s response to the terror attacks was flawed, but not malicious or derelict.

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Well, time to start a new GOP investigation into Benghazi....

You know the old saying "Tenth time's the charm."
 
There appears to some misconception here. No one has provided evidence that Mrs. Clinton is directly or indirectly responsible for the Benghazi incident or deaths. No one. Not after years of "investigation". That is damning enough of the multiple investigations by various Republican groups - either they are incompetent or there is nothing to find that directly or indirectly links Mrs. Clinton to that tragedy.

This partisan report does not exonerate anyone - there is no need to exonerate anyone who has not done anything. This partisan report simply provides examples and evidence of the tactics used in the last Republican "investigation". Unless there is evidence that the report's claims of relevant fact are mistaken, inaccurate or lies, it does not matter whether it is partisan or not. Unless, of course, the usual ideologues are going to argue that relevant facts are partisan.

Exactly. At what point did any thinking person take the Benghazi-as-damning-scandal seriously?

At the time, I remember thinking it was an unfortunate, but relatively minor thing. Bad shit happens in the world, particularly in the ME and its surrounding environs, and sometimes even the U.S. government can't do anything about it.

If only conservatives could get as outraged about something like Sandy Hook the way they did about Benghazi; but that would require an actual appreciation of human life rather than a hollow, disingenuous one used to outrage the stupid in order to get their vote.
 
The media does not concern itself with getting things right.

It works tirelessly to figure out which spin will bring the greatest numbers.

It strives to create controversy and conflict where none exist because humans seem to be more attracted to this than the truth.

Not quite. The media does want to be right. It's just being right takes back seat to getting eyeballs.

And you missed the desire to be first to report something.
 
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