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It is always a chance to take something to trial.

You get some lying Trump cult member on the jury and they don't care about truth or morality or justice.
 

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Their argument in determining the $1.3 billion better be rock solid. Expect the usual suspects to complain about the "frivolous" nature.

Yes, one would hope. But it may be reasonable given the operating costs of the company, how much extra security that they've had to pay for, and the potential for lost business.

Punitive damages are being asked for in addition to compensatory damages and legal expenses.
 

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Then with lots of money to play with, Smartmatic can start more lawsuits against others involved in libelling and defaming them. Rush Limbaugh was just as bad if not worse than Dobbs. And then we have the radio station media companies that kept Rush on air spreading lies and defamation. This all could be a target rich environment for Smartmatic.

They may not need a lot of money to get the suits filed as many civil suits are taken on a contingency contract with stipulates that the attorney fees come out of the either the judgement or settlement.
 

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It is always a chance to take something to trial.

You get some lying Trump cult member on the jury and they don't care about truth or morality or justice.

How does that work in civil trials?

Suppose 4 jurors are Trumpist morons who vote to acquit,
4 jurors vote to convict but only give Dominion $1 million, and
4 jurors vote to convict for $1 billion. What is the net result?
 

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It is always a chance to take something to trial.

You get some lying Trump cult member on the jury and they don't care about truth or morality or justice.

How does that work in civil trials?

Suppose 4 jurors are Trumpist morons who vote to acquit,
4 jurors vote to convict but only give Dominion $1 million, and
4 jurors vote to convict for $1 billion. What is the net result?

The Trumpist morons attack the court security personnel, killing some if necessary, then force entry into the Judge's chambers, destroying property and stealing souvenirs like gavels, demanding an acquittal.
The ultimate result is determined by whether or not they actually catch the judge.
 

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It is always a chance to take something to trial.

You get some lying Trump cult member on the jury and they don't care about truth or morality or justice.

How does that work in civil trials?

Suppose 4 jurors are Trumpist morons who vote to acquit,
4 jurors vote to convict but only give Dominion $1 million, and
4 jurors vote to convict for $1 billion. What is the net result?

The Trumpist morons attack the court security personnel, killing some if necessary, then force entry into the Judge's chambers, destroying property and stealing souvenirs like gavels, demanding an acquittal.
The ultimate result is determined by whether or not they actually catch the judge.

Voir dire when properply executed should prevent this type of problem.
 

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It is always a chance to take something to trial.

You get some lying Trump cult member on the jury and they don't care about truth or morality or justice.

How does that work in civil trials?

Suppose 4 jurors are Trumpist morons who vote to acquit,
4 jurors vote to convict but only give Dominion $1 million, and
4 jurors vote to convict for $1 billion. What is the net result?

My understanding is that would be hung if they couldn't come to an agreement. If the two groups that would give some can come to an agreement on the amount my understanding is that that would prevail.
 

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The Trumpist morons attack the court security personnel, killing some if necessary, then force entry into the Judge's chambers, destroying property and stealing souvenirs like gavels, demanding an acquittal.
The ultimate result is determined by whether or not they actually catch the judge.

Voir dire when properply executed should prevent this type of problem.

Would they be allowed to ask about being a trumpet?
 

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Newsmax Apologizes To Dominion Exec As It Settles Lawsuit Over False Voter Fraud Claims

Right-wing cable outlet Newsmax settled a defamation suit brought by a Dominion Voting Systems executive Friday with an apology and admitted that allegations of voter fraud that it aired were untrue, the latest backtracking as Newsmax and other conservative outfits face legal retribution for amplifying former President Donald Trump’s baseless vote-rigging claims.

SURPRISING FACT
Coomer’s lawsuit says he suffered death threats because of the false allegations leveled against him, forcing him to flee his home and go into hiding.

CRUCIAL QUOTE
“On behalf of Newsmax, we would like to apologize for any harm that our reporting of the allegations against Dr. Coomer may have caused to Dr. Coomer and his family,” the network said in a statement posted to its website Friday.

KEY BACKGROUND
Immediately after last year’s presidential election, Newsmax turned itself into a haven for voters who believed Trump was the rightful winner. The network waited more than a month before calling the race for President Joe Biden, and it spent weeks giving airtime to the false conspiracy theory that Trump was a victim of widespread vote-rigging. This approach has occasionally landed the network in hot water: After election software company Smartmatic threatened to sue Newsmax in December, the channel broadcast an on-air statement rebutting allegations against both Smartmatic and its competitor, Dominion. Plus, on at least two separate occasions, anchors for Newsmax have interrupted interviews with Trump-supporting MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell after he tried to repeat vote-rigging claims on-air.

WHAT TO WATCH FOR
Coomer is still suing a litany of other Trump-adjacent figures, including the Trump campaign, lawyers Powell and Rudy Giuliani, One America News, and the far-right website Gateway Pundit. Coomer’s lawyers said he’s seeking punitive damages.
 

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It is always a chance to take something to trial.

You get some lying Trump cult member on the jury and they don't care about truth or morality or justice.

How does that work in civil trials?

Suppose 4 jurors are Trumpist morons who vote to acquit,
4 jurors vote to convict but only give Dominion $1 million, and
4 jurors vote to convict for $1 billion. What is the net result?

I *think* that because it is a civil case a majority verdict is fine, and it's the judge/Magistrate who determines damages not the jury.
 

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Newsmax Apologizes To Dominion Exec As It Settles Lawsuit Over False Voter Fraud Claims

Right-wing cable outlet Newsmax settled a defamation suit brought by a Dominion Voting Systems executive Friday with an apology and admitted that allegations of voter fraud that it aired were untrue, the latest backtracking as Newsmax and other conservative outfits face legal retribution for amplifying former President Donald Trump’s baseless vote-rigging claims.

SURPRISING FACT
Coomer’s lawsuit says he suffered death threats because of the false allegations leveled against him, forcing him to flee his home and go into hiding.

CRUCIAL QUOTE
“On behalf of Newsmax, we would like to apologize for any harm that our reporting of the allegations against Dr. Coomer may have caused to Dr. Coomer and his family,” the network said in a statement posted to its website Friday.

KEY BACKGROUND
Immediately after last year’s presidential election, Newsmax turned itself into a haven for voters who believed Trump was the rightful winner. The network waited more than a month before calling the race for President Joe Biden, and it spent weeks giving airtime to the false conspiracy theory that Trump was a victim of widespread vote-rigging. This approach has occasionally landed the network in hot water: After election software company Smartmatic threatened to sue Newsmax in December, the channel broadcast an on-air statement rebutting allegations against both Smartmatic and its competitor, Dominion. Plus, on at least two separate occasions, anchors for Newsmax have interrupted interviews with Trump-supporting MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell after he tried to repeat vote-rigging claims on-air.

WHAT TO WATCH FOR
Coomer is still suing a litany of other Trump-adjacent figures, including the Trump campaign, lawyers Powell and Rudy Giuliani, One America News, and the far-right website Gateway Pundit. Coomer’s lawyers said he’s seeking punitive damages.

There was also a settlement payment. I would love to know how much but we'll never know. It does raise the question how far Dominion is willing to go with regards to the other defendants.
 

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Voting machine company Smartmatic sues OAN over election claims

Smartmatic, a company that creates election and voting technology and support services, is suing conservative news outlet One American News Network (OAN) for slander and libel about its voting systems, according to Reuters.

Smartmatic's complaint against OAN has not yet been posted to the courts, reports Reuters, citing court records.

Smartmatic had previously filed a $2.7 billion lawsuit against Fox News, Fox News hosts, as well as attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, accusing them of harming the company's brand with their accusations of the voting machines' role in alleged widespread election fraud.

Fox News and its hosts have stated that these cases should be dismissed, claiming that former President Trump's allegations were newsworthy, even if false, and that outlets should be allowed to report on them.
 

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claiming that former President Trump's allegations were newsworthy, even if false, and that outlets should be allowed to report on them.
Report on, yes. When the anchor says, "Today, Former President Peeshowers claimed, without producing evidence, that there were irregularities.' That's reporting ON the claims.

Confirming them, though, that's a different kettle of crap.
 

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claiming that former President Trump's allegations were newsworthy, even if false, and that outlets should be allowed to report on them.
Report on, yes. When the anchor says, "Today, Former President Peeshowers claimed, without producing evidence, that there were irregularities.' That's reporting ON the claims.

Confirming them, though, that's a different kettle of crap.
Exactly. Plenty of news outlets were reporting them for what they were, unevidenced lies and fabrications. But some news outlets were peddling them as truth. There's a helluva difference.
 

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Fox News loses bid to dismiss Dominion defamation lawsuit over election coverage | Reuters
Fox News Network on Thursday lost its attempt to dismiss a $1.6 billion lawsuit brought by Dominion Voting Systems Inc, a voting machine company that says Fox defamed it by amplifying conspiracy theories about its technology.

In a written ruling, Delaware court judge Eric Davis said Dominion had sufficiently alleged it was defamed by Fox News' 2020 election coverage and the case should proceed toward trial.

"At this stage, it is reasonably conceivable that Dominion has a claim for defamation per se," Davis said in his ruling. "Accordingly, Fox’s Motion should be denied."
A trial will be nice to see, with Trumpies and Fox execs squirming and sweating bullets. But Fox may try to get a setlement before a trial to try to avoid big embarrassments.
In August, a judge denied motions to dismiss filed by Powell, Giuliani, and Lindell. The Trump allies continue to defend themselves in court, arguing that their remarks about Dominion and Smartmatic were free speech protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
 

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‘That’s the ballgame’: Journalist reports ‘court says Fox knew exactly what it was doing when it defamed Dominion’ - Raw Story - Celebrating 17 Years of Independent Journalism

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Tim O'Brien on Twitter: "Ruh roh. The court says Fox knew exactly what it was doing when it defamed Dominion. The court is describing clear evidence of malice. And that’s the ballgame in lawsuits like this. (links)" / Twitter
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Tim O'Brien on Twitter: ""The suit in Delaware also names current and former Fox personalities Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, as well as Maria Bartiromo, Jeanine Pirro and Lou Dobbs."" / Twitter

From Raw Story:
Bloomberg News reports "Fox News probably had enough information after the 2020 presidential election to know a conspiracy theory claiming Dominion Voting Systems Inc. rigged the contest was false, a judge said in denying the network’s request to dismiss a defamation lawsuit."

The article goes on to note that Delaware state court Judge Eric M. Davis wrote: “Fox possessed countervailing evidence of election fraud from the Department of Justice, election experts, and Dominion at the time it had been making its statements.”

“The fact that, despite this evidence, Fox continued to publish its allegations against Dominion, suggests Fox knew the allegations were probably false.”

It gets worse for Fox News.

The judge rejected the cable network's "contention that statements" by its hosts "were opinion," Deadline adds.

"He wrote that it was 'reasonably conceivable that Fox and its personnel broadcasted mixed opinions that were based on either false or incomplete facts unknown to the reasonable viewer. Many of Fox’s reporters made broad election fraud statements that did not disclose their sources clearly, or clearly connect their statements to the election fraud litigations. Although Fox classifies its reporters’ remarks as commentary’ that used ‘loose and hyperbolic rhetoric’ for entertainment value, even loose and hyperbolic language can be actionable if it rests on false statements of fact undisclosed to viewers.'"
Great.
 

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After Court Lets Fox News Challenge Move Forward, Here’s Where Dominion And Smartmatic’s Defamation Suits Stand Now—And Who Could Be Next
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New York Supreme Court Justice David B. Cohen ruled Smartmatic’s $2.7 billion lawsuit against Fox News can move forward—as well as its claims against anchors Lou Dobbs and Maria Bartiromo—after Smartmatic sued them in February 2021, alleging the defendants “engaged in a conspiracy to spread disinformation about Smartmatic.”

Cohen dismissed Smartmatic’s allegations against far-right attorney Sidney Powell and Fox anchor Jeanine Pirro, and dismissed some claims against attorney Rudy Giuliani but let others move forward.

Smartmatic has separately sued Powell in federal court, which is still pending.
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Smartmatic vs. Fox News, Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo, Sidney Powell, Jeanine Pirro, Rudy Giuliani, MyPillow, Mike Lindell, One America News Network (OANN), Newsmax.

Dominion vs. Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, MyPillow, Mike Lindell, Fox News, OANN, Chanel Rion, Christina Bobb, Newsmax, fmr Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne.
 
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Just for fun, here's a video of Mike Lindell getting served papers for a new lawsuit from Eric Coomer, an employee defamed concerning his job at Dominion, while on his way to give a speech at the Colorado capitol building about "election security". Coomer is suing Lindell, FrankSpeech, and MyPillow for defamation.

 

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After Dominion Voting Systems sued him for defamation in DC federal court, Lindell and his company filed a counterclaim against Dominion and its direct competitor, Smartmatic, alleging civil RICO and defamation. And he filed it in the District of Minnesota, obviously.

US District Judge Patrick Schlitz declined Lindell’s invitation to punish Dominion Voting Systems for the tort of suing Mike Lindell, and transferred the case to DC, at which point Smartmatic warned that it was going to request Rule 11 sanctions against Lindell and his lawyers. But these brain geniuses ignored the threat, and instead dismissed their claims against Smartmatic, then added the company back as third party defendant in the pending Dominion case. Only this time on top of the RICO libelslander allegations, Lindell accused Smartmatic of witness tampering via cease and desist letters sent to people making false claims about the company.

Last week Judge Carl J. Nichols had enough. He not only granted Smartmatic’s motion to dismiss, but he also agreed to sanction Lindell, his company, and his lawyers Douglas A. Daniels and Heath A. Novosad, both of whom have already withdrawn from the case.

“In particular, the Court concludes that at the very least Lindell’s claim against Smartmatic under the Support or Advocacy Clause falls on the frivolous side of the line (other claims do too),” he wrote. “As a result, the Court orders Lindell and his previous counsel to pay some of the fees and costs Smartmatic has incurred defending itself and moving for sanctions under Rule 11.”
 
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A lot of people deserve to be living in a box under a bridge. Among the top 200 is Lindell. Need to leave space for the Sedition Caucus under that bridge.

Trump should have the least comfortable box that floods in the rain.
 

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A judge has set an April 17, 2023 date for a civil case by Dominion against Faux Noise. Faux wanted to delay the case to early in 2024. Judge said no. Judge Davis also refused Faux's motion to dismiss Dominion's lawsuit.
 

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I know Faux news will come out of this okay even if they lose but I'm hoping smaller players like Lindell end up bankrupt.
 

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If I remember correctly, both Dominion and Smartmatic are suing Fox News and Faux Corporation. Fox News is really a LLC company with not much value. Easily bankrupted. By design. But the real money is with the parent Fox Corporation. Faux Noise was set up as a legal firewall.. As for the little vermin like Guiliani and Lindell, both Dominion and Smartmatic have vowed they will never settle out of court with anybody. Lawsuits against Newsmax, OANN, and Sinclair are still underway. A lawyer circus.
 

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A lot of people deserve to be living in a box under a bridge. Among the top 200 is Lindell. Need to leave space for the Sedition Caucus under that bridge.

Trump should have the least comfortable box that floods in the rain.
Why should either get a bridge?
 

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A lot of people deserve to be living in a box under a bridge. Among the top 200 is Lindell. Need to leave space for the Sedition Caucus under that bridge.

Trump should have the least comfortable box that floods in the rain.
Why should either get a bridge?

The rodent style rats will visit.
 

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A judge has set an April 17, 2023 date for a civil case by Dominion against Faux Noise. Faux wanted to delay the case to early in 2024. Judge said no. Judge Davis also refused Faux's motion to dismiss Dominion's lawsuit.
So umm... another area where the US is inadequate. Judicial Branch... 2023 date for a lawsuit filed when?
 

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The lawsuits trundle on!

Smartmatic's lawsuit against OANN can continue says judge. OANN was sued in Washington D.C.. OANN argued their headquarters were in California and demanded the lawsuit be thrown out on that basis. The presiding judge refused. OANN had studios and offices in Washington D.C. and broadcast there.

In the. Dominion vs Fox Corp suit, a Judge has ruled the Dominion suit against Fox Corp can continue. Fox wanted the suit to be confined to Fox News. A LLC company with not much money. The judge ruled Fox Corp gained by Fox News defamation of Dominion. That suit shall now continue.
 

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One thing about these Dominion lawsuits is that Dominion has not sued Trump. When they started filing suits, they stated suing Trump is not off the table. After watching yesterday's hearings, Trump's part of all these efforts to steal the election makes it clear Trump was told repeatedly the election was fair and not stolen. That makes his lies Dominion was part of a successful theft of the election actionable it seems to me.

Meanwhile, Eric Coomer, a Dominion employee was claimed to have been the Dominion employee who engineered the Dominion vote thefts. Coomer has sued the Trump election organiztion that spread this now debunked assertion. The Trump election org has tried to get his suits thrown out but in May a judge refused to do so.

And elsewhere, the same judge that refused to throw out the OANN suit refused motions from Newsmax to throw out Dominion's suits against them.
 

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A Minnesota District Court judge on Monday denied MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell’s motion to throw out a lawsuit brought by a voting technology company that claims he defamed it by pushing the false narrative that the 2020 election was stolen.

Smartmatic, a company that provided election technology and services to Los Angeles in the 2020 election, alleges in the complaint that both Lindell and MyPillow defamed the voting tech company by falsely promoting the theory that its machines had been hacked or rigged in favor of President Joe Biden. Lindell is a staunch supporter of former President Donald Trump and has falsely maintained since 2020 that Trump won the election over Biden.


Smartmatic also alleges that Lindell, who has advertised promo codes for MyPillow products to viewers and listeners during TV and radio segments where he pushed the false narrative that voting technology was rigged in the 2020 election, used deceptive trade practices.
 

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Here we go again. Right winged True The Vote is getting sued by a technology company called Konnech. Defamation.
 

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It is always a chance to take something to trial.

You get some lying Trump cult member on the jury and they don't care about truth or morality or justice.

How does that work in civil trials?

Suppose 4 jurors are Trumpist morons who vote to acquit,
4 jurors vote to convict but only give Dominion $1 million, and
4 jurors vote to convict for $1 billion. What is the net result?
It doesn't work that way. First ,there is a trial to determine if there was a tort. I there was, then there is a separate trial to determine payments.
 
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