PyramidHead
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I'm an Abrahamist and I believe God is incorporeal, and I eat Him on Sundays.
Normal thing to say, totally normal and healthy belief system
I'm an Abrahamist and I believe God is incorporeal, and I eat Him on Sundays.
No. 1. both a & b is still the answer even with the word science in place, acceptable by most.
I'm an Abrahamist and I believe God is incorporeal, and I eat Him on Sundays.
Nothing controversial about Learner's post.
Is he tasty? Do you prefer him rare, medium, or well done?
Are the bread and wine of the Eucharist transformed into the body and blood of Jesus?I'm an Abrahamist and I believe God is incorporeal, and I eat Him on Sundays.
Nothing controversial about Learner's post.
Are the bread and wine of the Eucharist transformed into the body and blood of Jesus?I'm an Abrahamist and I believe God is incorporeal, and I eat Him on Sundays.
Nothing controversial about Learner's post.
Yes.
I'm surprised, so far into this age of quantum mechanics, that there are folks who struggle with the notion of transubstantiation.
Is it a mystery or quantum mechanics? Or aren't you just pretending there's anything scientific or even comprehensible about "the notion"?Are the bread and wine of the Eucharist transformed into the body and blood of Jesus?I'm an Abrahamist and I believe God is incorporeal, and I eat Him on Sundays.
Nothing controversial about Learner's post.
Yes.
I'm surprised, so far into this age of quantum mechanics, that there are folks who struggle with the notion of transubstantiation.
The legacy of the Eucharist is a living gift to us.
Jesus could have left stone tablets with rune symbols, supernatural relics, archeological monuments, Holy Grails, YouTubes, blog posts, mp4 smart phone video evidence of His time on earth. But would have all been debunked as dime-a-dozen fakes/forgeries. (Think how the 2019 post-modern world would receive such mundane attempts at authenticity.)
But Jesus instead gave us an enduring living connection with His real presence - which is as real as you want it to be.
If you want to regard the Eucharist as 'symbolic' that's fine. Have a superficial 'symbolic' experience with token Jesus.
Or if you're passionately in need of Him being there in the room then the words..."this is my body" will literally be true.
Either way, the supernatural deliberateness of the Passover/Last Supper has endured much to the surprise of those who mock and misunderstand.
The legacy of the Eucharist is a living gift to us.
Jesus could have left stone tablets with rune symbols, supernatural relics, archeological monuments, Holy Grails, YouTubes, blog posts, mp4 smart phone video evidence of His time on earth. But these would have all been debunked as dime-a-dozen fakes/forgeries. (Think how the 2019 post-modern world would receive such mundane attempts at authenticity.)
But Jesus instead gave us an enduring living connection with His real presence - which is as real as you want it to be.
If you want to regard the Eucharist as 'symbolic' that's fine. Have a superficial 'symbolic' experience with token Jesus.
Or if you're passionately in need of Him being there in the room then the words..."this is my body" will literally be true.
Either way, the supernatural deliberateness of the Passover/Last Supper has endured much to the surprise of those who mock and misunderstand.
Your ancestors bequeathed a much greater gift to you and at enormous cost, namely, that you are here. You would do well to not squander that gift on infantile, religious fantasies.
Let's get back to the Atheism Rising topic.
What else is rising?
Mental illness. Existential angst. Opioid addiction. Youth suicide. Nihilistic hedonism.
How about the level of civility in public discourse?
How about the level of civility in public discourse?
They would be considered fakes/forgeries because that is the kind of things fakes and forgers have always offered as proof. A godly being could easily leave a godly symbol of his having been here. For instance, he could have left an indestructible dome larger than the great pyramid made of material not found anywhere else in the universe that was harder than diamond and had a melting point higher than the temperature of a star's core. His message could be left inscribed over the surface and a niche could produce wine, loaves, and fish to feed the hungry eternally.The legacy of the Eucharist is a living gift to us.
Jesus could have left stone tablets with rune symbols, supernatural relics, archeological monuments, Holy Grails, YouTubes, blog posts, mp4 smart phone video evidence of His time on earth. But would have all been debunked as dime-a-dozen fakes/forgeries. (Think how the 2019 post-modern world would receive such mundane attempts at authenticity.)
Also:Let's get back to the Atheism Rising topic.
What else is rising?
Mental illness. Existential angst. Opioid addiction. Youth suicide. Nihilistic hedonism.
How about the level of civility in public discourse?
The fact that the world sucks now is a cause of people abandoning belief in God, not an effect of it. Both the lack of belief and the presence of mental illness have a common root, which is a growing awareness that we're fucked and nobody is going to save us.
The legacy of the Eucharist is a living gift to us.
Jesus could have left stone tablets with rune symbols, supernatural relics, archeological monuments, Holy Grails, YouTubes, blog posts, mp4 smart phone video evidence of His time on earth. But these would have all been debunked as dime-a-dozen fakes/forgeries. (Think how the 2019 post-modern world would receive such mundane attempts at authenticity.)
But Jesus instead gave us an enduring living connection with His real presence - which is as real as you want it to be.
If you want to regard the Eucharist as 'symbolic' that's fine. Have a superficial 'symbolic' experience with token Jesus.
Or if you're passionately in need of Him being there in the room then the words..."this is my body" will literally be true.
Either way, the supernatural deliberateness of the Passover/Last Supper has endured much to the surprise of those who mock and misunderstand.
Your ancestors bequeathed a much greater gift to you and at enormous cost, namely, that you are here. You would do well to not squander that gift on infantile, religious fantasies.
Sorry I didn't read the Op - I thought this was a thread about Holy Communion.
Let's get back to the Atheism Rising topic.
What else is rising?
Mental illness. Existential angst. Opioid addiction. Youth suicide. Nihilistic hedonism.
How about the level of civility in public discourse?
The legacy of the Eucharist is a living gift to us.
Jesus could have left stone tablets with rune symbols, supernatural relics, archeological monuments, Holy Grails, YouTubes, blog posts, mp4 smart phone video evidence of His time on earth. But would have all been debunked as dime-a-dozen fakes/forgeries. (Think how the 2019 post-modern world would receive such mundane attempts at authenticity.)
But Jesus instead gave us an enduring living connection with His real presence - which is as real as you want it to be.
If you want to regard the Eucharist as 'symbolic' that's fine. Have a superficial 'symbolic' experience with token Jesus.
Or if you're passionately in need of Him being there in the room then the words..."this is my body" will literally be true.
Either way, the supernatural deliberateness of the Passover/Last Supper has endured much to the surprise of those who mock and misunderstand.
Lich.What aspect of performing ritual cannibalism in the hopes it will earn you brownie points with a supernatural creature you have never met or seen are people misunderstanding? How should people who believe that eating a wafer in a church is actually an act of eating a 2,000 year old zombie's flesh be treated, if not with mockery?
Sorry I didn't read the Op - I thought this was a thread about Holy Communion.
Let's get back to the Atheism Rising topic.
What else is rising?
Mental illness. Existential angst. Opioid addiction. Youth suicide. Nihilistic hedonism.
How about the level of civility in public discourse?
They would be considered fakes/forgeries because that is the kind of things fakes and forgers have always offered as proof. A godly being could easily leave a godly symbol of his having been here. For instance, he could have left an indestructible dome larger than the great pyramid made of material not found anywhere else in the universe that was harder than diamond and had a melting point higher than the temperature of a star's core. His message could be left inscribed over the surface and a niche could produce wine, loaves, and fish to feed the hungry eternally.The legacy of the Eucharist is a living gift to us.
Jesus could have left stone tablets with rune symbols, supernatural relics, archeological monuments, Holy Grails, YouTubes, blog posts, mp4 smart phone video evidence of His time on earth. But would have all been debunked as dime-a-dozen fakes/forgeries. (Think how the 2019 post-modern world would receive such mundane attempts at authenticity.)
You know, symbols only a god could leave us, not something like the relics hawked to the ignorant during the middle ages who adored by them then and still do. I've heard it said that there were enough 'pieces of the original cross' sold to build a fair sized village.
I do find it really weird that Christians still indulge in cannibalism. Especially since they find cannibalism repulsive when practiced by other cultures.
Thats sort of the period where atheists mix-up the imagination of unicorns with spikes on their heads and fire breathing dragons which is not in the bible.
And, lo, suddenly there came forth from the cave many dragons; and
when the children saw them, they cried out in great terror. Then Jesus
went down from the bosom of His mother, and stood on His feet before
the dragons; and they adored Jesus, and thereafter retired.