Election: what made you happy, what made you sad?

[Jolly_Penguin]

Or you need me to explain why I would laugh at the absurdity of the Democrats failing to collect themselves and take history's easiest election? Methinks you are only seeing half what you quoted.

How about you try this one? Go ahead, explain.

Why not the other one? I'd cry more than laugh. But ok. I would laugh because it would be ridiculous and bizarre. The silver lining would be the possible collapse of the Democratic party and emergence of a non-corporate and labour oriented party, or otherwise actually liberal and progressive party to oppose the Republicans.

 

[Elixir]

God help the Republicans.

They don't need god - they've got Putin!

 

[Ford]

Seriously, the best thing about Sinema's win is McSally's concession speech, which is more of an affront to Cheato and gives me more hope than Republicans losing yet another seat.

This is how it SHOULD be!

Country before Party - from a REPUBLICAN??? I thought it would be years before I'd see such a thing. They wanted her to claim fraud like those scumbags in FL and GA, and she refused.

Not to rain on our parade, but there's a very good chance that there's a reason behind McSally's conciliatory tone. John Kyl was appointed to fill McCain's seat. There's talk that he's going to step down before the end of the year, and that leaves it up to the Governor to appoint someone to hold the seat until 2020. McSally might get to be a Senator after all...

p.s. the comments on that link are hilarious and scary all at once.

 

[Elixir]

McSally might get to be a Senator after all...

Didn't know Jon Kyl was planning his exit... McSally would be a step in the right (left) direction, anyhow. But would she get the nod, after flying in the face of Rethuglicans directing her to allege fraud?

 

[Worldtraveller]

McSally might get to be a Senator after all...

Didn't know Jon Kyl was planning his exit... McSally would be a step in the right (left) direction, anyhow. But would she get the nod, after flying in the face of Rethuglicans directing her to allege fraud?

Probably. She's actually a halfway decent (only halfway,mind you) person, in spite of being in the GOP. The governor is pretty shitty, in classic AZ tradition, but I suspect he'd appoint McSally, since 1) he's not a very outspoken supporter (or critic) of trump, and 2) it's probably what the party will tell him to do.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

2014 Election

Republicans - 51.2% of vote
Democrats - 45.5% of vote

59 seat majority for Republicans with less than 5.7% margin of victory.

2016 Election

Republicans - 48.2% of vote
Democrats - 47.3% of vote

47 seat majority for Republicans with less than 1% margin of victory.

2018 Election

Republicans - 45.5% of vote
Democrats - 52.7% of vote

Democrats have 31 seat majority via a 7.2% margin of victory.

 

[Derec]

The point is that our Christian Taliban VP has to swear them in.

Pence does not swear in members of the House anyway.
And as much as I disagree with him, Pence is nowhere near as distasteful as the actual, Muslim, Taliban.

 

[Derec]

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[Derec]

We like diversity on general principle,

This idea of "check the box" diversity is a really bad idea, as it reduces people to group membership rather than looking at them as individuals. Note that Islam is a set of ideas that a person holds, not an immutable characteristic . If Ayan Hirsi Ali was elected, it would be a very different thing from the Ilhan Omar election, even though both are women, both Somali and both were born Muslim. Spoiler alert: one got better.

and also value the idea of representative government. Governments rule only by consent of the governed, so a political system requires that everyone feels represented or at least considered in decisions of state.

There are far more atheists than Muslims in the US. I find it ridiculous that the Democratic party is pandering to Muslims and ignoring us atheists. I dont' see DNC pushing for atheist candidates like they pushed these two women in 2018. Or how they pushed Keith Ellison for decades.

It's not that we all are or desire to be Muslims, but we recognize the fact that both Muslim people and women are a part of American community, and should have a role to play about communal decision-making.

Maybe it was mistake letting them all in in the first place. Look at Europe. They are a few decades ahead of us with regard to Islamization.
There is this town in Georgia that got overrun by Muslim "refugees", called Clarkston. I sometimes shop at a grocery store a few miles from the town, and every time there is at least two women in full-on burka there. Don't tell that that is a good thing!

It is true that there are socially conservative Muslims with strong views on what society should look like, but I fail to see how this makes Muslim communities any different from Christian or secular ones. There are conservatives and regressive thinkers everywhere, and you can't wish that fact away through denial or minority oppression.

The point is that Muslim being elected is not a good thing in itself, just because "Muslim" is higher on the "check the box" progressive stack than any other religion except maybe Great Manitou or such. At most it should be neutral, but in reality (given the bad ideas inherent in Islam) it's a negative.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

There is this town in Georgia that got overrun by Muslim "refugees", called Clarkston. I sometimes shop at a grocery store a few miles from the town, and every time there is at least two women in full-on burka there. Don't tell that that is a good thing!

Ohes noes! How did you ever survive?

 

[Derec]

Ohes noes! How did you ever survive?

I understand living in Canuckistan you got used to those.


But in Georgia it has been a rare sight until the Clarkston invasion.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

There is this town in Georgia that got overrun by Muslim "refugees", called Clarkston. I sometimes shop at a grocery store a few miles from the town, and every time there is at least two women in full-on burka there. Don't tell that that is a good thing!

Ohes noes! How did you ever survive?

I hate the full covering clothes, it is very bad in my opinion. But one day it occurred to me that immigrants come to the US speaking their language. Their children adapt to our customs and language. Probably won't be dissimilar regarding the body cloaks.

 

[Derec]

Diversity.

"Check the box" diversity is not really a good idea. Besides, that seat was held by a Muslim already. Having a non-Muslim for a change would have been more diverse.

In a Congress that's made up almost entirely of Christians, it's a great thing.

Again, you only look at the boxes to be checked according to progressive stack - Muslims higher Christians, women higher than men, non-whites higher than whites.
You are ignoring that Islam's ideas are even worse than those of Christianity.

It can be. So can Christianity.

In the 21st century Islam wins hands down in the "repressiveness" category. Pretty much everything is haram.

So does every Christian.

BS. Again, look at the statements by these two women.

 

[Toni]

There is this town in Georgia that got overrun by Muslim "refugees", called Clarkston. I sometimes shop at a grocery store a few miles from the town, and every time there is at least two women in full-on burka there. Don't tell that that is a good thing!

And this is a problem for you how, exactly? What negative impact does the fact that women in burkas shop in the same store where you like to shop have on you?

 

[Derec]

I hate the full covering clothes, it is very bad in my opinion. But one day it occurred to me that immigrants come to the US speaking their language. Their children adapt to our customs and language. Probably won't be dissimilar regarding the body cloaks.

That happened in the old days, when the idea of the "melting pot" was still accepted. Now that is considered not politically correct. And besides, look to Europe. 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims are even more radical than the 1st.

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And this is a problem for you how, exactly? What negative impact does the fact that women in burkas shop in the same store where you like to shop have on you?

It's a sign of Muslim oppression. Like it's Afghanistan and not Georgia.
To get back on point: why would you celebrate the fact that Muslims are gaining more power in Congress?

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Diversity is our Strength Derec. Don't you agree? You have to agree.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Ohes noes! How did you ever survive?

I understand living in Canuckistan you got used to those.
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But in Georgia it has been a rare sight until the Clarkston invasion.

Well, speaking as someone who’s managed to live through at least three encounters with Muslim’s who’ve passed by me on the street, it isn’t actually scary.