Father had hands up when police opened fire, killing 6-year-old Marksville boy, lawyer says

[ksen]

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/11/father_had_his_hands_up_when_p.html

Police body camera video shows the father of a 6-year-old autistic boy had his hands up and posed no threat as police opened fire, severely wounding the motorist and killing the boy, the man's lawyer said Monday.

"This was not a threatening situation for the police," said Mark Jeansonne, the attorney for Chris Few, who remained hospitalized, missing the family's funeral for 6-year-old Jeremy Mardis.

rope . . . lamppost

 

[ksen]

In the comments at the link some discussion was about how if it were a black guy and his kid shot there would be riots and how that looks bad on black people.

My response is that the lack of riots on the part of white people to police over aggression is the real shame.

Sometimes you just have to burn shit down to get your voice heard.

 

[Bronzeage]

In the comments at the link some discussion was about how if it were a black guy and his kid shot there would be riots and how that looks bad on black people.

My response is that the lack of riots on the part of white people to police over aggression is the real shame.

Sometimes you just have to burn shit down to get your voice heard.

This is my neighborhood. White people aren't worried they won't see justice. The two policemen who fired into the car have been charged with murder.

A few years ago, a young black man was found dead in the backseat of a police car. His hands were cuffed behind him, and he had been shot. It was ruled a self inflicted wound.

 

[Toni]

In the comments at the link some discussion was about how if it were a black guy and his kid shot there would be riots and how that looks bad on black people.

My response is that the lack of riots on the part of white people to police over aggression is the real shame.

Sometimes you just have to burn shit down to get your voice heard.

I was shocked that the officers were arrested. Until I clicked on their photos.

Sadly, I am not shocked by the murder of a six year old boy by police officers.

And sadly, I am beginning to understand the point of right to carry nut jobs. Maybe we do all need to be armed and prepared to defen ourselves against the state.

 

[Bronzeage]

In the comments at the link some discussion was about how if it were a black guy and his kid shot there would be riots and how that looks bad on black people.

My response is that the lack of riots on the part of white people to police over aggression is the real shame.

Sometimes you just have to burn shit down to get your voice heard.

I was shocked that the officers were arrested. Until I clicked on their photos.

Sadly, I am not shocked by the murder of a six year old boy by police officers.

And sadly, I am beginning to understand the point of right to carry nut jobs. Maybe we do all need to be armed and prepared to defen ourselves against the state.

Do you think the by would be alive today if his father had been armed?

 

[arkirk]

In the comments at the link some discussion was about how if it were a black guy and his kid shot there would be riots and how that looks bad on black people.

My response is that the lack of riots on the part of white people to police over aggression is the real shame.

Sometimes you just have to burn shit down to get your voice heard.

I was shocked that the officers were arrested. Until I clicked on their photos.

Sadly, I am not shocked by the murder of a six year old boy by police officers.

And sadly, I am beginning to understand the point of right to carry nut jobs. Maybe we do all need to be armed and prepared to defen ourselves against the state.

It may be far more important to NOT GIVE THE COPS THE EXCUSE TO KILL YOU. (He was armed!) This is a dandy excuse. Some cops even carry throw away guns to plant just in case they shoot somebody who is not armed.

 

[zorq]

In the comments at the link some discussion was about how if it were a black guy and his kid shot there would be riots and how that looks bad on black people.

My response is that the lack of riots on the part of white people to police over aggression is the real shame.

Sometimes you just have to burn shit down to get your voice heard.

The marshals have been arrested and held under a $1,000,000 bond. It sure helps that some in depth investigation and pursuit of justice appears to be happening in this case. The appearance of justice is all that it takes to quell the discontent of the people.

 

[Trausti]

In the comments at the link some discussion was about how if it were a black guy and his kid shot there would be riots and how that looks bad on black people.

My response is that the lack of riots on the part of white people to police over aggression is the real shame.

Sometimes you just have to burn shit down to get your voice heard.

The marshals have been arrested and held under a $1,000,000 bond. It sure helps that some in depth investigation and pursuit of justice appears to be happening in this case. The appearance of justice is all that it takes to quell the discontent of the people.

It also may help that there appears to be rock solid body cam video of the incident. It's not released yet; but the impression is that it's unambiguously incriminating.

 

[Toni]

I was shocked that the officers were arrested. Until I clicked on their photos.

Sadly, I am not shocked by the murder of a six year old boy by police officers.

And sadly, I am beginning to understand the point of right to carry nut jobs. Maybe we do all need to be armed and prepared to defen ourselves against the state.

Do you think the by would be alive today if his father had been armed?

Oh, definitely not. But these sorts of incidents have made me think hard about what message we are all absorbing. The fact seems to be that we have reason to fear the police. And be utterly and perfectly compliant with authority.

 

[Toni]

I was shocked that the officers were arrested. Until I clicked on their photos.

Sadly, I am not shocked by the murder of a six year old boy by police officers.

And sadly, I am beginning to understand the point of right to carry nut jobs. Maybe we do all need to be armed and prepared to defen ourselves against the state.

It may be far more important to NOT GIVE THE COPS THE EXCUSE TO KILL YOU. (He was armed!) This is a dandy excuse. Some cops even carry throw away guns to plant just in case they shoot somebody who is not armed.

Sorry: as you point out, being unarmed is not enough to save you. Nor is being compliant. Or 6 years old.

 

[fast]

Sometimes you just have to burn shit down to get your voice heard.

That's what we call looking for trouble. I know, I know, it doesn't sound all that accurate, but that's what it's called.

 

[fast]

It may be far more important to NOT GIVE THE COPS THE EXCUSE TO KILL YOU. (He was armed!) This is a dandy excuse. Some cops even carry throw away guns to plant just in case they shoot somebody who is not armed.

Sorry: as you point out, being unarmed is not enough to save you. Nor is being compliant. Or 6 years old.

Nor is being compliant? That's not true. Being compliant goes along way to peaceful resolutions.

 

[Derec]

Regardless of races of those involved, this seems an open and shut case. It seems actually a lot more clear-cut than the case of Sam Dubose (black suspended-license dope-running driver killed by a white cop) and the DA charged the cop with murder there and had some choice words in the press conference. There is zero evidence that the charge has anything to do with the races of those involved.

 

[Toni]

Sorry: as you point out, being unarmed is not enough to save you. Nor is being compliant. Or 6 years old.

Nor is being compliant? That's not true. Being compliant goes along way to peaceful resolutions.

So tell us how noncompliant this 6 year old was. I really want to know.

 

[fast]

Nor is being compliant? That's not true. Being compliant goes along way to peaceful resolutions.

So tell us how noncompliant this 6 year old was. I really want to know.

The odds are in our favor. With increasing tensions, particularly in problematic regions, there are going to be instances where even full compliance won't end well, but if there were significantly increased instances of positive attitude compliance, successfully leading to less tensions country-wide, we could really see a dramatic decrease in unjustified behavior on the part of authority figures.

Regardless of the unjustified behavior of police officers, if the previous victims we hear so much about would have been in full compliance, we wouldn't have so much outrage and the subsequent high tensions that likely had at least a butterfly effect on the state of mind of the trigger guy that took that boy's life. Blaming the victims? Yes, but collectively so. If those that are so feverishly defended behaved themselves, that little boy just might be alive.

 

[Toni]

So tell us how noncompliant this 6 year old was. I really want to know.

The odds are in our favor. With increasing tensions, particularly in problematic regions, there are going to be instances where even full compliance won't end well, but if there were significantly increased instances of positive attitude compliance, successfully leading to less tensions country-wide, we could really see a dramatic decrease in unjustified behavior on the part of authority figures.

Regardless of the unjustified behavior of police officers, if the previous victims we hear so much about would have been in full compliance, we wouldn't have so much outrage and the subsequent high tensions that likely had at least a butterfly effect on the state of mind of the trigger guy that took that boy's life. Blaming the victims? Yes, but collectively so. If those that are so feverishly defended behaved themselves, that little boy just might be alive.

So...that child did nothing wrong? At least you will concede that.

But the fault lies with everyone else who isn't immediately and completely compliant with police orders, even if the orders are conflicting, impossible to understand or to comply with or illegal.

The police are not st fault. They are just victims.

 

[laughing dog]

So tell us how noncompliant this 6 year old was. I really want to know.

The odds are in our favor. With increasing tensions, particularly in problematic regions, there are going to be instances where even full compliance won't end well, but if there were significantly increased instances of positive attitude compliance, successfully leading to less tensions country-wide, we could really see a dramatic decrease in unjustified behavior on the part of authority figures.

Regardless of the unjustified behavior of police officers, if the previous victims we hear so much about would have been in full compliance, we wouldn't have so much outrage and the subsequent high tensions that likely had at least a butterfly effect on the state of mind of the trigger guy that took that boy's life. Blaming the victims? Yes, but collectively so. If those that are so feverishly defended behaved themselves, that little boy just might be alive.

And if the police had behaved professionally, that boy would be alive today. FFS, these officers have been charged with a crime which should be a hint to even the most fervent goosestepping police groupies that these particular officers misbehaved.

 

[fast]

The odds are in our favor. With increasing tensions, particularly in problematic regions, there are going to be instances where even full compliance won't end well, but if there were significantly increased instances of positive attitude compliance, successfully leading to less tensions country-wide, we could really see a dramatic decrease in unjustified behavior on the part of authority figures.

Regardless of the unjustified behavior of police officers, if the previous victims we hear so much about would have been in full compliance, we wouldn't have so much outrage and the subsequent high tensions that likely had at least a butterfly effect on the state of mind of the trigger guy that took that boy's life. Blaming the victims? Yes, but collectively so. If those that are so feverishly defended behaved themselves, that little boy just might be alive.

So...that child did nothing wrong? At least you will concede that.

But the fault lies with everyone else who isn't immediately and completely compliant with police orders, even if the orders are conflicting, impossible to understand or to comply with or illegal.

The police are not st fault. They are just victims.

The police are at fault for their wrong doing. The victims are at fault for their wrong doing. The only reason I even go along with the usage of the word, "victim" is because of the instances where the police actions are unjustified. People do like to blame the victims because they are misguided in that they brought it on themselves, as indicated when they point out that what happened wouldn't have happened had they not done what they did. The reason the victim blaming is wrong is because the result isn't a function of the victims wrong doing but rather a function of the police officers unjust actions.

So, one might be inclined to say that I shouldn't have collectively blamed the ones who behaved wrongly and had a bad fate at the hands of the police, but not every instance of bad behavior on a criminals part was met by the fate of unjust actions on part of police, as some bad ends were justified.

Rather than hinge blame on cases of non-justification, I highlight that there is a tension building effect that could have been mitigated by the absence of wrong-doing on all parties. If people behaved themselves, we wouldn't be in this mess. Ya might say I'm trying to share or spread blame across justification lines, but I am in no way trying to blame the victims for their own demise, even if they could have avoided their own plight by compliance.

 

[fast]

The odds are in our favor. With increasing tensions, particularly in problematic regions, there are going to be instances where even full compliance won't end well, but if there were significantly increased instances of positive attitude compliance, successfully leading to less tensions country-wide, we could really see a dramatic decrease in unjustified behavior on the part of authority figures.

Regardless of the unjustified behavior of police officers, if the previous victims we hear so much about would have been in full compliance, we wouldn't have so much outrage and the subsequent high tensions that likely had at least a butterfly effect on the state of mind of the trigger guy that took that boy's life. Blaming the victims? Yes, but collectively so. If those that are so feverishly defended behaved themselves, that little boy just might be alive.

And if the police had behaved professionally, that boy would be alive today. FFS, these officers have been charged with a crime which should be a hint to even the most fervent goosestepping police groupies that these particular officers misbehaved.

Absolutely! I was responding to the general notion that compliance isn't for naught.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

If people don't learn from this tragedy, is the human species worth it?