masterpeastheater
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They're evil. Other thoughts?
Educate yourselfWow. Some inspiring dialog and analysis here.
How about a brief description of what they are and a list of the pros and cons?
Source: Under Surveillance: Constitutional Concerns Surrounding Flock Cameras (the article is longer)The cameras work by taking a picture of a vehicle when it passes by. From the picture, it collects data about the vehicle such as the license plate number, color, and model. It can even track more subtle characteristics such as the bumper stickers on the car or whether the car has a roof rack. This data is then transferred to the Flock database where it can be accessed by Flock customers such as law enforcement agencies. The data is stored for up to 30 days after the information is first logged.....
While there are undeniably many benefits to police departments that come with this technology, many feel uneasy about constantly being watched without permission. To make matters worse there is no way to opt out of having your vehicle data and location history tracked by Flock. Anyone who drives past their cameras, whether they are a criminal or not, will have their data tracked and stored. This raises serious constitutional questions, including whether police officers should be required to obtain a warrant before accessing Flock’s Data. The Fourth Amendment protects an individual’s reasonable expectation of privacy. If the government seeks to intrude on this privacy, they must obtain a warrant supported by probable cause.
I know what they are. They've been a hot topic in my area for a while now. That may not be true for others here in other US communities or countries where they are not being used. It is common courtesy when starting a new thread to provide a short summary of a new topic or technology that is not widely known. Based on your curt response to me, it seems you are unfamiliar with issues of courtesy.Educate yourselfWow. Some inspiring dialog and analysis here.
How about a brief description of what they are and a list of the pros and cons?
Source: Under Surveillance: Constitutional Concerns Surrounding Flock Cameras (the article is longer)The cameras work by taking a picture of a vehicle when it passes by. From the picture, it collects data about the vehicle such as the license plate number, color, and model. It can even track more subtle characteristics such as the bumper stickers on the car or whether the car has a roof rack. This data is then transferred to the Flock database where it can be accessed by Flock customers such as law enforcement agencies. The data is stored for up to 30 days after the information is first logged.....
While there are undeniably many benefits to police departments that come with this technology, many feel uneasy about constantly being watched without permission. To make matters worse there is no way to opt out of having your vehicle data and location history tracked by Flock. Anyone who drives past their cameras, whether they are a criminal or not, will have their data tracked and stored. This raises serious constitutional questions, including whether police officers should be required to obtain a warrant before accessing Flock’s Data. The Fourth Amendment protects an individual’s reasonable expectation of privacy. If the government seeks to intrude on this privacy, they must obtain a warrant supported by probable cause.
That part isn't gonna happen. Is a nice idea though.and give us good law abiding citizens like discounts on our property taxes.
When people ask for a brief description, it is usually indication that they are unfamiliar with the subject. So please model some of that "courtesy" and forgive me. At least I hope you feel better now.They've been a hot topic in my area for a while now. That may not be true for others here in other US communities or countries where they are not being used. It is common courtesy when starting a new thread to provide a short summary of a new topic or technology that is not widely known. Based on your curt response to me, it seems you are unfamiliar with issues of courtesy.Educate yourselfWow. Some inspiring dialog and analysis here.
How about a brief description of what they are and a list of the pros and cons?
Source: Under Surveillance: Constitutional Concerns Surrounding Flock Cameras (the article is longer)The cameras work by taking a picture of a vehicle when it passes by. From the picture, it collects data about the vehicle such as the license plate number, color, and model. It can even track more subtle characteristics such as the bumper stickers on the car or whether the car has a roof rack. This data is then transferred to the Flock database where it can be accessed by Flock customers such as law enforcement agencies. The data is stored for up to 30 days after the information is first logged.....
While there are undeniably many benefits to police departments that come with this technology, many feel uneasy about constantly being watched without permission. To make matters worse there is no way to opt out of having your vehicle data and location history tracked by Flock. Anyone who drives past their cameras, whether they are a criminal or not, will have their data tracked and stored. This raises serious constitutional questions, including whether police officers should be required to obtain a warrant before accessing Flock’s Data. The Fourth Amendment protects an individual’s reasonable expectation of privacy. If the government seeks to intrude on this privacy, they must obtain a warrant supported by probable cause.
Then one day, when she pressed him for answers, her ex told her in a text: He was using Flock.
Like thousands of other law-enforcement agencies across the United States, his police force could follow cars spotted by Flock’s sprawling network of artificial-intelligence roadside cameras, which record passing license plates into a mappable database that officers can search while investigating crime.
Flock had sold its system as a police officer’s dream crime-fighting tool. But the tool had also given the chief, Michael Steffman, the power to silently monitor Bakely’s life. By the time she understood what was happening, Steffman had looked up the tags for her and her teenage daughter roughly 600 times, according to Have I Been Flocked, a website that aggregates police search logs made available through public records.
Along the same lines, gifted articleHow rogue officers turned a nationwide camera network into a tool for stalking
Then one day, when she pressed him for answers, her ex told her in a text: He was using Flock.
Like thousands of other law-enforcement agencies across the United States, his police force could follow cars spotted by Flock’s sprawling network of artificial-intelligence roadside cameras, which record passing license plates into a mappable database that officers can search while investigating crime.
Flock had sold its system as a police officer’s dream crime-fighting tool. But the tool had also given the chief, Michael Steffman, the power to silently monitor Bakely’s life. By the time she understood what was happening, Steffman had looked up the tags for her and her teenage daughter roughly 600 times, according to Have I Been Flocked, a website that aggregates police search logs made available through public records.
A Milwaukee police officer was criminally charged on Tuesday after using license plate recognition technology to surveil a person he was dating and the person’s ex for two months last year, the authorities said.
The officer, Josue Ayala, 33, used the technology, from Flock Safety, to track his partner and the person’s ex, according to a criminal complaint made public on Tuesday.
Mr. Ayala ran searches on his partner’s license plate 124 times from March to May 2025, according to the complaint. He did the same action to his partner’s ex 55 times, the authorities said.
LD says that someone in his town stole/took down all the FLOCK cameras.....When I first saw this thread, I thought Flock cameras was slang in the US that I know nothing about. Like "Six Seven! Hahaha!". Then Last Week Tonight talked about it.
Now I know it is something I know nothing about. But should. The show was deliberate in not showing ways around such methods, but there must be a way.
And to survive, we must learn.