Florida Woman Charged With Threatening Insurance Company With "Delay, Deny, Depose"

[AthenaAwakened]

Florida Woman Charged With Threatening Insurance Company With "Delay, Deny, Depose" - E! Online

A Floridian was charged with threatening an act of terrorism after allegedly ending a call to BlueCross BlueShield with "Delay, Deny, Depose," the words written on the ammo that killed Brian Thompson.

www.eonline.com

"Briana Boston of Lakeland, Fla., was arrested on Dec. 10 over an alleged threat she made over the phone during a call with BlueCross BlueShield regarding a denied medical insurance claim, according to NBC News.

In an affidavit obtained by the outlet, the Lakeland Police Department said their officers were contacted by the FBI Dec. 10 because the 42-year-old ended her recorded phone call by saying, "Delay, deny, depose. You people are next."

The phrase tipped off authorities because the words "deny," "defend" and "depose" were written on the ammunition used by the gunman who murdered UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City on Dec. 4. (Luigi Mangione is currently in custody after being charged with the shooting.)"

The powers-that-be are making an example of a Fla. woman who spoke in anger during a phone call to an insurance company. Evidently the corporation felt scared and hurt and called the police on this mother of three. The po-po then went and got her and told her she couldn't upset ins. corporations anymore. Anyone who makes ins. corporation scared and hurt will be arrested and charged. So y'all better be nice and say nice things to insurance companies.

Or else.

PS. Examples can become Martyrs. Jessayin'

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

People are labelling everything terrorism today (other than actual terrorism). The alleged threat is too vague to have her convicted by a court (unless the court judge is a crazy one).

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

America in 2010 gave a massive middle finger to health care reform. We have the health care system we (as a whole) voted for.

On another board, a Trump supporter/conservative was whining about insurance companies. These people are idiots!

 

[TomC]

If this is going to become a meme I want to expand it.
Delay! Deny! Depose! Donald!
Tom

 

[laughing dog]

I understand why the corp would get concerned. I even get why the FBI would alert local law enforcement. But arresting someone without doing an investigation is just heavy handed overreaction in this instance.

This is a person Biden should unconditionally blanket pardon.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Indeed. At worst, it is one of those, knock on the door, say "Hey... we noticed you sent an email using language that could be taken as a threat. Please DONT' because it can be mistaken as a threat and law enforcement will need to act."

 

[Elixir]

People are labelling everything terrorism today (other than actual terrorism). The alleged threat is too vague to have her convicted by a court (unless the court judge is a crazy one).

Right. Arresting her does the trick - no need to justify it or win in court.

 

[ideologyhunter]

If this is going to become a meme I want to expand it.
Delay! Deny! Depose! Donald!
Tom

Well, that is what his nursery school teacher said in 1950, and it didn't work then either.

 

[bilby]

Indeed. At worst, it is one of those, knock on the door, say "Hey... we noticed you sent an email using language that could be taken as a threat. Please DONT' because it can be mistaken as a threat and law enforcement will need to act."

Even knocking on the door is excessive intimidation against a citizen for the heinous crime of saying something that could, just possibly, if you squint, be vaguely construed as a threat.

A letter in the mail would more than suffice.

Arresting someone for saying something that very vaguely hints at being threatening, is some authoritarian hellhole shit right there. She didn't shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

How many times in your life have you said, "You're gonna get what's coming to you," or words to that effect?

How many times have you told someone you were gonna kill 'em?

People say things both in anger and in jest that they either mean as an expression of exasperation or that they don't mean at all. And it should be safe to do so without threat of being "sent to the cornfield."

 

[Derec]

Evidently the corporation felt scared and hurt and called the police on this mother of three.

What does her reproductive status have to do with anything?

The po-po then went and got her and told her she couldn't upset ins. corporations anymore. Anyone who makes ins. corporation scared and hurt will be arrested and charged. So y'all better be nice and say nice things to insurance companies.

Given that an insurance executive was just murdered in cold blood by a perp using those words, it is not unreasonable that the insurance company people feel threatened by this woman. It's not "corporation" that is scared, it's real flesh and blood people who are part of it that are.
If you cut them, do they not bleed?

 

[bilby]

Evidently the corporation felt scared and hurt and called the police on this mother of three.

What does her reproductive status have to do with anything?

The po-po then went and got her and told her she couldn't upset ins. corporations anymore. Anyone who makes ins. corporation scared and hurt will be arrested and charged. So y'all better be nice and say nice things to insurance companies.

Given that an insurance executive was just murdered in cold blood by a perp using those words, it is not unreasonable that the insurance company people feel threatened by this woman. It's not "corporation" that is scared, it's real flesh and blood people who are part of it that are.
If you cut them, do they not bleed?

They might bleed, but as the cut has been ruled a pre-existing condition, they will have to pay for a bandaid at the schedule rate of $3,000, plus the cost of the nursing staff who applies it. And they will keep bleeding until they stump up the cash.

 

[TV and credit cards]

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Evidently the corporation felt scared and hurt and called the police on this mother of three.

What does her reproductive status have to do with anything?

The po-po then went and got her and told her she couldn't upset ins. corporations anymore. Anyone who makes ins. corporation scared and hurt will be arrested and charged. So y'all better be nice and say nice things to insurance companies.

Given that an insurance executive was just murdered in cold blood by a perp using those words, it is not unreasonable that the insurance company people feel threatened by this woman. It's not "corporation" that is scared, it's real flesh and blood people who are part of it that are.
If you cut them, do they not bleed?

Scared my ass. What’s the likelihood of anyone locating the unhelpful customer service rep on the other end of the line? It is unlikely this is Blue Cross/Blue Shield on the other end. It may be part of BC/BS but likely goes by a different name, in a city and state unknown to the caller, who is engaged with a customer service rep knowing only a first name. Customer Service scared. Humph! These people couldn’t be safer if they were off planet.

 

[bilby]

in a city and state unknown to the caller

Mumbai, Maharashtra would be a good guess...

 

[TV and credit cards]

For example, Optum is a subsidiary of United Health Group and performs it's three Ds for them.

And now a poem by Optum's AI chatbot.

In the realm of healthcare’s grand domain
Where policies and rules often constrain
A claim arrives, seeking its due
But alas, its fate is to bid adieu.

The provider hopes, with earnest plea,
For payment on a service spree,
Yet scrutiny reveals the tale,
And reasons for denial prevail.

ref: TechCrunch

 

[southernhybrid]

Evidently the corporation felt scared and hurt and called the police on this mother of three.

What does her reproductive status have to do with anything?

The po-po then went and got her and told her she couldn't upset ins. corporations anymore. Anyone who makes ins. corporation scared and hurt will be arrested and charged. So y'all better be nice and say nice things to insurance companies.

Given that an insurance executive was just murdered in cold blood by a perp using those words, it is not unreasonable that the insurance company people feel threatened by this woman. It's not "corporation" that is scared, it's real flesh and blood people who are part of it that are.
If you cut them, do they not bleed?

She didn't specifically threaten anyone. She simply said, "you people are next". That isn't a terrorist threat. My understanding of the law concerning a terroristic threat is that it must be targeted at a individual. So, if she had said she was going to kill Bill Smith and Bill Smith was the CEO of the insurance company, that could be perceived as a terroristic threat. She was just angry and made a vague comment that "you people are next". I don't think the arrest was reasonable and I hope the charges will soon be dropped. Plus, she has apologized. She obviously wan't planning on killing anyone. She was just upset and yelled out something that should not have been taken so seriously. She could have simply been told to watch her language, so people don't feel threatened, considering the recent murder of the CEO of UHC.


https://www.muscalaw.com/blog/under...atutes-laws-offenses-punishments-and-defenses

So who specifically did she threaten? No-one as far as I could tell.

This statute makes it a crime to threaten someone with death or serious bodily injury, either verbally, in writing, or by electronic communication. Violation of this statute can result in felony charges.

 

[Elixir]

Evidently the corporation felt scared and hurt and called the police on this mother of three.

What does her reproductive status have to do with anything?

The po-po then went and got her and told her she couldn't upset ins. corporations anymore. Anyone who makes ins. corporation scared and hurt will be arrested and charged. So y'all better be nice and say nice things to insurance companies.

Given that an insurance executive was just murdered in cold blood by a perp using those words, it is not unreasonable that the insurance company people feel threatened by this woman. It's not "corporation" that is scared, it's real flesh and blood people who are part of it that are.
If you cut them, do they not bleed?

She didn't specifically threaten anyone. She simply said, "you people are next". That isn't a terrorist threat. My understanding of the law concerning a terroristic threat is that it must be targeted at a individual. So, if she had said she was going to kill Bill Smith and Bill Smith was the CEO of the insurance company, that could be perceived as a terroristic threat. She was just angry and made a vague comment that "you people are next". I don't think the arrest was reasonable and I hope the charges will soon be dropped. Plus, she has apologized. She obviously wan't planning on killing anyone. She was just upset and yelled out something that should not have been taken so seriously. She could have simply been told to watch her language, so people don't feel threatened, considering the recent murder of the CEO of UHC.


https://www.muscalaw.com/blog/under...atutes-laws-offenses-punishments-and-defenses

So who specifically did she threaten? No-one as far as I could tell.

This statute makes it a crime to threaten someone with death or serious bodily injury, either verbally, in writing, or by electronic communication. Violation of this statute can result in felony charges.

Like it matters? They don’t have to be right to make someone’s life miserable. Nobody is going to stand up for the accused, lest they become the also accused.

 

[southernhybrid]

Evidently the corporation felt scared and hurt and called the police on this mother of three.

What does her reproductive status have to do with anything?

The po-po then went and got her and told her she couldn't upset ins. corporations anymore. Anyone who makes ins. corporation scared and hurt will be arrested and charged. So y'all better be nice and say nice things to insurance companies.

Given that an insurance executive was just murdered in cold blood by a perp using those words, it is not unreasonable that the insurance company people feel threatened by this woman. It's not "corporation" that is scared, it's real flesh and blood people who are part of it that are.
If you cut them, do they not bleed?

She didn't specifically threaten anyone. She simply said, "you people are next". That isn't a terrorist threat. My understanding of the law concerning a terroristic threat is that it must be targeted at a individual. So, if she had said she was going to kill Bill Smith and Bill Smith was the CEO of the insurance company, that could be perceived as a terroristic threat. She was just angry and made a vague comment that "you people are next". I don't think the arrest was reasonable and I hope the charges will soon be dropped. Plus, she has apologized. She obviously wan't planning on killing anyone. She was just upset and yelled out something that should not have been taken so seriously. She could have simply been told to watch her language, so people don't feel threatened, considering the recent murder of the CEO of UHC.


https://www.muscalaw.com/blog/under...atutes-laws-offenses-punishments-and-defenses

So who specifically did she threaten? No-one as far as I could tell.

This statute makes it a crime to threaten someone with death or serious bodily injury, either verbally, in writing, or by electronic communication. Violation of this statute can result in felony charges.

Like it matters? They don’t have to be right to make someone’s life miserable. Nobody is going to stand up for the accused, lest they become the also accused.

Well, I hope she has a good lawyer or if she can't afford one, we can only hope that the public defender is competent. Still, it doesn't appear as if she even broke the law, so if it goes to trial, it will be very hard to prove that she is guilty of threatening a specific person. They way things are going recently, I don't see it likely that she will be found guilty, but sure, she is being put through a lot of unnecessary stress.

I'm still hoping the charges will be dropped by a judge, or a grand jury will decide she shouldn't be prosecuted for merely getting angry and not specifically threatening to harm anyone.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Now, if she'd said, "You've got to fight like hell or you won't have insurance anymore. Go ahead...I'll be there with you," she'd have come out of this smelling like roses, and probably with a new job as well.

 

[laughing dog]

Evidently the corporation felt scared and hurt and called the police on this mother of three.

What does her reproductive status have to do with anything?

. You’re the one who thinks everyone should get the full picture and context of an alleged criminal so that we can apportion judgment based on evidence.