Freddie Gray Death - The Courtroom Drama

[Nice Squirrel]

So since similar abuse keeps happening over and over in the city what do you propose they do to fix it?

Instead of overcharging low level people and handing out millions how about going after the brass?

That is not a fix.

 

[ksen]

Two officers' statements ruled admissible in Freddie Gray case, as 3 others withdraw efforts to block statements

Ivan Bates, one of [Sgt. Alicia] White's attorney's, suggested that investigators on the Baltimore Police Department's Force Investigation Team had "tricked" White into providing a statement by making her think she was just a witness — not a suspect — and by suggesting to her during her interrogation that her signing two sheets waiving her Miranda rights and her rights under the state Law Enforcement Officers' Bill of Rights was not tantamount to giving up her rights when it was.

Prosecutors said the statements were obtained properly. Deputy State's Attorney Jan Bledsoe at one point during the hearing called the defense suggestion that a police sergeant did not understand her rights when agreeing to give a statement "a serious problem."

How could this officer not know how these interrogations work? And being a police officer how does she not know how rights work?

Bledsoe is right, if a police officer doesn't understand her/his rights then there is a problem. If you don't understand your own rights how can we expect you to understand the rights of people you are arresting and routinely interrogating yourself?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, this is a police officer who helped murder a man who was in her custody. That does indicate somewhat of a misunderstanding about what rights a person has when under arrest.

 

[Trausti]

Well, this is a police officer who helped murder a man who was in her custody. That does indicate somewhat of a misunderstanding about what rights a person has when under arrest.

Well, she wasn't charged with murder. But, whateva.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, this is a police officer who helped murder a man who was in her custody. That does indicate somewhat of a misunderstanding about what rights a person has when under arrest.

Well, she wasn't charged with murder. But, whateva.

Fine - "helped kill" someone in her custody. It's a moot distinction in regards to the point being made. That point is that individuals in custody do have a right to not have the police engage in illegal acts which end up with them dead. This officer was clearly unaware that this right existed. It makes sense that she would be similarly unaware of other rights that individuals in custody have.

 

[Trausti]

Well, she wasn't charged with murder. But, whateva.

Fine - "helped kill" someone in her custody. It's a moot distinction in regards to the point being made. That point is that individuals in custody do have a right to not have the police engage in illegal acts which end up with them dead. This officer was clearly unaware that this right existed. It makes sense that she would be similarly unaware of other rights that individuals in custody have.

Calm down bro. She didn't "helped kill" anyone. But her lawyer did what good lawyers do in these situations. He wanted to exclude a statement made by his client before she got legal representation. The lawyer had very little chance of success given the circumstances, but if you were charged with a crime and made a statement to police you'd probably want your lawyer to do the same. Fo' shizzle bo bizzle.

 

[ZiprHead]

Jury is chosen. Let the trial begin.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Fine - "helped kill" someone in her custody. It's a moot distinction in regards to the point being made. That point is that individuals in custody do have a right to not have the police engage in illegal acts which end up with them dead. This officer was clearly unaware that this right existed. It makes sense that she would be similarly unaware of other rights that individuals in custody have.

Calm down bro. She didn't "helped kill" anyone. But her lawyer did what good lawyers do in these situations. He wanted to exclude a statement made by his client before she got legal representation. The lawyer had very little chance of success given the circumstances, but if you were charged with a crime and made a statement to police you'd probably want your lawyer to do the same. Fo' shizzle bo bizzle.

Good point. Our justice system is designed to really make it hard to prosecute and to give a defendant a solid chance at a defense. Same rights would have been given to the deceased if he didn't get killed in the van, that is.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Calm down bro. She didn't "helped kill" anyone. But her lawyer did what good lawyers do in these situations. He wanted to exclude a statement made by his client before she got legal representation. The lawyer had very little chance of success given the circumstances, but if you were charged with a crime and made a statement to police you'd probably want your lawyer to do the same. Fo' shizzle bo bizzle.

Good point. Our justice system is designed to really make it hard to prosecute and to give a defendant a solid chance at a defense. Same rights would have been given to the deceased if he didn't get killed in the van, that is.

If he had committed a crime. I can't wait to see the knife.

 

[arkirk]

Instead of overcharging low level people and handing out millions how about going after the brass?

That is not a fix.

Why do you say that? If the brass felt they could be taken down for malfeasance so much the better. It might lead them to tighten up the reigns on their police thugs. The money for the settlement however should come from the entire city. The killings were done under the auspices of the city, by city cops. Punitive settlements are designed to induce compliance with some sort of standard that cuts out the bad behavior on the city cops' parts that lead to an unfair death. It is not enough to just rap a few knuckles.