Gamers = Muslims

[Underseer]

Generally speaking, gamers do not issue fatwas to my knowledge.

Body counts were not part of the comparison.

 

[J842P]

Generally speaking, gamers do not issue fatwas to my knowledge.

Body counts were not part of the comparison.

What the hell does a fatwa have to do with a body count? Do you even know what a fatwa is?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Just look what it says in their holy book:

"If a prophet...says, 'Let us follow other gods' ...you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. ...That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion..."

and

"If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods”...do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people."

Oh, wait... that's somebody else's holy book.

 

[Underseer]

Body counts were not part of the comparison.

What the hell does a fatwa have to do with a body count? Do you even know what a fatwa is?

Yes. It's an answer to a (generally stupid and boring) question, but in the Western media, people think it means "death sentence" or "death threat."

 

[GenesisNemesis]

So how many gamers are estimated to have made threats?

 

[Samhain]

Generally speaking, gamers do not issue fatwas to my knowledge.

Generally speaking, neither do muslims.

Come on folks. This muslim bashing is way below your standards. Just because some idiots are muslims doesnt mean that all muslims are idiots.

But Muslims do issue fatwas. There is no equivalence to a fatwa in "gaming culture." That is why such a distinction is important. There is no scholarly body amongst gamers that determines what is appropriate behavior for them. While this means that some gamers may be jerks it also means that there isn't some sort of gaming mullah claiming that all female gamers must wear sheets over the entirety of their bodies and faces either.

Hip hop music has also been described as misogynistic and homophobic but that certainly doesn't exemplify every single hip hop artist but merely a general impression one might get from watching Chris Brown videos.

 

[Juma]

But Muslims do issue fatwas.

No. They doesnt. The few that do are totally statistically isignificant.

 

[surreptitious57]

Underseer : there is absolutely no need to introduce Muslims into a debate about death threats made by gamers. It is completely irrelevant. It is also a false equivalence because Muslims actually carry out the threats they make where as gamers do not. If the modus operandi of your OP was to highlight attention to the misogyny in the online gaming community then Muslims as a demographic have absolutely nothing to do with that. Or are you going to introduce gamers into any future threads ostensibly about Muslim death threats ? You see how ridiculous such a conflation would be ? Or did you think that it would be alright since most of here are atheists and so by default must be anti theist and therefore anti Muslim ? May I suggest to you that it is more productive to actually stick to with in the parameters of the topic without introducing completely superfluous subject matter which distracts from what you are supposed to be discussing in the first place

 

[Samhain]

But Muslims do issue fatwas.

No. They doesnt. The few that do are totally statistically isignificant.

Fatwa means something other than "death threat" as was pointed out earlier. Please read the entire post again, as I think you may be missing my point. I'll reiterate: the point is that gamers do not any scholarly authority, nor do they have a holy text for which that scholarly authority would be inclined to interpret. Gamers are, not unlike atheists, only generally defined by their avidity for games. So while atheists don't have a core set of values binding them together other than their lack of god belief or willful rejection of god belief, gamers are much the same in that respect because the only thing that binds them together is the fact that they play video games. Muslims, on the other hand, have a holy text, and have scholars that interpret that holy text, and when questions arise concerning that holy text, these scholars will issue fatwas to clarify the holy text. Gamers do not have a holy text, and neither do they have mullahs. It is therefore impossible for gamers to issue fatwas, while the same cannot be said of Muslims. The point being that there is no authority which dictates to gamers how to behave, and therefore there is a sort of anarchist streak amongst the gaming community and all will do as they please; this includes the jerks.

 

[thebeave]

At least the Gamers haven't gone this far (unlike Muslims):

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/27/us/oklahoma-man-is-said-to-behead-co-worker.html?_r=0

A man beheaded a co-worker at a food processing company in Oklahoma on Thursday afternoon, and stabbed another employee before he was shot and wounded by a company executive, the police said Friday.

The suspect, identified as Alton Nolen, who has a criminal history, had just been fired from the company, Vaughan Foods, and “he recently started trying to convert some of his co-workers to the Muslim religion,” said Jeremy Lewis, a spokesman for the police department in Moore, Okla. It was not immediately clear if that proselytizing was a reason for his termination.

After being fired, “he drove to the front of the business, running into a vehicle, exited his vehicle, entered the business, where he encountered the first victim, Colleen Hufford, and began assaulting her with a knife,” Mr. Lewis said. “He did kill Colleen and did sever her head.”