Merged Gaza just launched an unprovoked attack on Israel

[DrZoidberg]

I thought we had a thread about Israel vs "journalists" but I'm not finding it.

IDF reveals: Six Al Jazeera journalists are Hamas, PIJ terrorists

The exposed journalists are part of Hamas's military wing operating as the vanguard of Hamas's propaganda war against Israel.

www.jpost.com

6 journalists from Al Jazeera have been identified as being on terrorist payrolls.

Indipendent journalists aren't allowed in Gaza. If they're there the're Hamas fighters.

 

[DrZoidberg]

No one in this thread supports Hamas. That idiotic straw man is harder to kill than a vampire.

Lol. It's not a straw man. Until the Palestinians rise up and turn on Hamas en masse, then Hamas represents the Palestinians. As far as I can tell the Palestinians are still very pro-Hamas.

Hamas has all along been using the Palestinian people as human shields. Yet, Palestinian rage is not directed against Hamas. It's totally directed against Israel.

History is full of opressed people who turn on their evil overlords. Why wouldn't the Palestinians be able to do so as well? Perhaps because they support Hamas? And if they do then support for the Palestinians is a support for Hamas.

You need to explain how any of that have to do people in this thread supporting Hamas if you wish to be taken seriously.

I'm sorry reality is hurting your feelings. Arguing against Israel now, is arguing for Hamas. If you want a quick end for this war then pray for IDF succeeding with their goals. If this war has taught us anything it's that Israel was right all along and this war is justified. Anything else is playing into the propaganda bullshit of Hamas/Iran

 

[laughing dog]

No one in this thread supports Hamas. That idiotic straw man is harder to kill than a vampire.

Lol. It's not a straw man. Until the Palestinians rise up and turn on Hamas en masse, then Hamas represents the Palestinians. As far as I can tell the Palestinians are still very pro-Hamas.

Hamas has all along been using the Palestinian people as human shields. Yet, Palestinian rage is not directed against Hamas. It's totally directed against Israel.

History is full of opressed people who turn on their evil overlords. Why wouldn't the Palestinians be able to do so as well? Perhaps because they support Hamas? And if they do then support for the Palestinians is a support for Hamas.

You need to explain how any of that have to do people in this thread supporting Hamas if you wish to be taken seriously.

I'm sorry reality is hurting your feelings. Arguing against Israel now, is arguing for Hamas. If you want a quick end for this war then pray for IDF succeeding with their goals. If this war has taught us anything it's that Israel was right all along and this war is justified. Anything else is playing into the propaganda bullshit of Hamas/Iran

What flavor of kool aid are you drinking?

 

[DrZoidberg]

No one in this thread supports Hamas. That idiotic straw man is harder to kill than a vampire.

Lol. It's not a straw man. Until the Palestinians rise up and turn on Hamas en masse, then Hamas represents the Palestinians. As far as I can tell the Palestinians are still very pro-Hamas.

Hamas has all along been using the Palestinian people as human shields. Yet, Palestinian rage is not directed against Hamas. It's totally directed against Israel.

History is full of opressed people who turn on their evil overlords. Why wouldn't the Palestinians be able to do so as well? Perhaps because they support Hamas? And if they do then support for the Palestinians is a support for Hamas.

You need to explain how any of that have to do people in this thread supporting Hamas if you wish to be taken seriously.

I'm sorry reality is hurting your feelings. Arguing against Israel now, is arguing for Hamas. If you want a quick end for this war then pray for IDF succeeding with their goals. If this war has taught us anything it's that Israel was right all along and this war is justified. Anything else is playing into the propaganda bullshit of Hamas/Iran

What flavor of kool aid are you drinking?

There's no shame in admitting that you have earlier been duped. You are not alone. We're flooded with bullshit pro Palestine propaganda.

There's a funny story of one of Swedish state television anchor getting fired a couple of days ago for expressing views that turned out to be pro-Hamas lies. She and the rest of Sweden thought it was true. Swedish state television is bound by law not to be a plattform these kinds unsubstantiated biased opinion pieces. Luckily Jews are a bit touchy about antisemitism and are well organised. There was no way she could squirm out of that embarrassing debacle. Facts are facts. Its like the whole western media environment is stuck in a pro-Hamas/Israel is evil bubble. Zero fact checking. Zero thinking.

Just a suggestion, the moment when the conspiracy theorists are on the same side you are, its good to paus for a moment and think as to why that is

 

[laughing dog]

No one in this thread supports Hamas. That idiotic straw man is harder to kill than a vampire.

Lol. It's not a straw man. Until the Palestinians rise up and turn on Hamas en masse, then Hamas represents the Palestinians. As far as I can tell the Palestinians are still very pro-Hamas.

Hamas has all along been using the Palestinian people as human shields. Yet, Palestinian rage is not directed against Hamas. It's totally directed against Israel.

History is full of opressed people who turn on their evil overlords. Why wouldn't the Palestinians be able to do so as well? Perhaps because they support Hamas? And if they do then support for the Palestinians is a support for Hamas.

You need to explain how any of that have to do people in this thread supporting Hamas if you wish to be taken seriously.

I'm sorry reality is hurting your feelings. Arguing against Israel now, is arguing for Hamas. If you want a quick end for this war then pray for IDF succeeding with their goals. If this war has taught us anything it's that Israel was right all along and this war is justified. Anything else is playing into the propaganda bullshit of Hamas/Iran

What flavor of kool aid are you drinking?

There's no shame in admitting that you have earlier been duped. You are not alone. We're flooded with bullshit pro Palestine propaganda.

There's a funny story of one of Swedish state television anchor getting fired a couple of days ago for expressing views that turned out to be pro-Hamas lies. She and the rest of Sweden thought it was true. Swedish state television is bound by law not to be a plattform these kinds unsubstantiated biased opinion pieces. Luckily Jews are a bit touchy about antisemitism and are well organised. There was no way she could squirm out of that embarrassing debacle. Facts are facts. Its like the whole western media environment is stuck in a pro-Hamas/Israel is evil bubble. Zero fact checking. Zero thinking.

Cool story bro, but I think you should go easy on that kool aid.

Just a suggestion, the moment when the conspiracy theorists are on the same side you are, its good to paus for a moment and think as to why that is

Really, go easy on the kool aid.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

What is the answer to the question "Why did the Gazans not try the Rafah crossing which was controlled by Egypt at that time?"

Because there was no infrastructure in place that would get the produce from Rafah to markets in a timely manner, whereas the cargo terminal at the Karni crossing was designed for that very purpose, and had been working very well to get fruits, flowers, and vegetables from Gaza to markets when Israeli settlers were running the greenhouses.

It is a pity that Egypt/Israel could not work together to help the Gazans. A industry like that would have helped the Gazans so much.

And remember that it was a Hamas attack on the crossing that scuttled the export business. Think they wouldn't have somehow scuttled exporting it through Egypt also?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And Hezbollah certainly doesn't want eyes on what it's doing:

(Note that this is from earlier than the previous articles)

Hezbollah condemns media outlets for crossing into south Lebanon on Israeli military press tour

BEIRUT — Hezbollah strongly condemned what it describes as dangerous behavior by several Western media outlets, following a promotional tour organized by the Israeli army for journalists. In a...

today.lorientlejour.com

How dare the press show something that doesn't match up with the party line?!

The first and last war that allowed journalists in was the Vietnam war. There's good reasons for it. The romanticised image of what a war should be and actually is, in the public mind, is so divergent that any honest reporting would just kill the public relations for whatever soldier the camera is pointed at. And winning the public opinion is about as important today as the war on the ground.

Neither Hamas nor Israel wants indipendent journalists in Gaza. If they do, they will quickly, both lose any support from the international community.

Fun fact, Hamas do allow journalists into Gaza, as long as they are also active fighters for Hamas. Which is funny when Hamas reports on journalists killed by IDF. But they've done this all along for any Hamas fighter killed. The moment a killed Hamas fighter hits the ground, Hamas tallys it as a civilian. These guys are shameless.

Note that this is Lebanon, not Gaza. And Israel was letting reporters in under escort--and Hezbollah objected.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'm sorry reality is hurting your feelings. Arguing against Israel now, is arguing for Hamas. If you want a quick end for this war then pray for IDF succeeding with their goals. If this war has taught us anything it's that Israel was right all along and this war is justified. Anything else is playing into the propaganda bullshit of Hamas/Iran

What flavor of kool aid are you drinking?

Calling it kool aid does not address his point.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No one in this thread supports Hamas. That idiotic straw man is harder to kill than a vampire.

Lol. It's not a straw man. Until the Palestinians rise up and turn on Hamas en masse, then Hamas represents the Palestinians. As far as I can tell the Palestinians are still very pro-Hamas.

Hamas has all along been using the Palestinian people as human shields. Yet, Palestinian rage is not directed against Hamas. It's totally directed against Israel.

History is full of opressed people who turn on their evil overlords. Why wouldn't the Palestinians be able to do so as well? Perhaps because they support Hamas? And if they do then support for the Palestinians is a support for Hamas.

You need to explain how any of that have to do people in this thread supporting Hamas if you wish to be taken seriously.

I'm sorry reality is hurting your feelings. Arguing against Israel now, is arguing for Hamas. If you want a quick end for this war then pray for IDF succeeding with their goals. If this war has taught us anything it's that Israel was right all along and this war is justified. Anything else is playing into the propaganda bullshit of Hamas/Iran

What flavor of kool aid are you drinking?

There's no shame in admitting that you have earlier been duped. You are not alone. We're flooded with bullshit pro Palestine propaganda.

There's a funny story of one of Swedish state television anchor getting fired a couple of days ago for expressing views that turned out to be pro-Hamas lies. She and the rest of Sweden thought it was true. Swedish state television is bound by law not to be a plattform these kinds unsubstantiated biased opinion pieces. Luckily Jews are a bit touchy about antisemitism and are well organised. There was no way she could squirm out of that embarrassing debacle. Facts are facts. Its like the whole western media environment is stuck in a pro-Hamas/Israel is evil bubble. Zero fact checking. Zero thinking.

Just a suggestion, the moment when the conspiracy theorists are on the same side you are, its good to paus for a moment and think as to why that is

There are two very big factors at work:

1) Access. You want to have material to report from places like Gaza, you accept the terrorist propaganda as truth and you don't call it out. Same reason nobody asks The Felon hard questions in interviews.

2) There are about 100x as many Muslims as Jews. Pissing off the Muslims will cost you more than pissing off the Jews.

These provide a major force slanting most news towards the terrorists. And most of the US sources that don't do this are garbage that can't be trusted about anything.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Just a suggestion, the moment when the conspiracy theorists are on the same side you are, its good to paus for a moment and think as to why that is

Really, go easy on the kool aid.

Calling it kool aid is saying you don't have an answer.

 

[laughing dog]

Just a suggestion, the moment when the conspiracy theorists are on the same side you are, its good to paus for a moment and think as to why that is

Really, go easy on the kool aid.

Calling it kool aid is saying you don't have an answer.

Did you pause for a moment to think why you ate on the same side ad “the conspiracy theorists” prior to constructing your illogical response?

 

[DrZoidberg]

Just a suggestion, the moment when the conspiracy theorists are on the same side you are, its good to paus for a moment and think as to why that is

Really, go easy on the kool aid.

Calling it kool aid is saying you don't have an answer.

Did you pause for a moment to think why you ate on the same side ad “the conspiracy theorists” prior to constructing your illogical response?

Nice to know that the Protocols of Zion no longer is a thing among conspiracy theorists. Fun fact, the Protocols of Zion is referenced in the Hamas charter

You live in a fantasy world