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GEORGIA: Man Parades 100-Round Rifle Through Atlanta Airport Because "Something Might Happen"

 
 
 
Loren Pechtel said:
laughing dog said:
Since he was a possible threat to shoot someone sometime, why wasn't he killed by the police?
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The picture seems to show a rifle slung across his back. An open-carry protester, not a threat.
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That makes all the difference in the world, because someone who wanted maximum casualties would certainly not sling his rifle on his back until he was near a sufficiently large crowd.

Suppose this open carry protester was a threat. What would be different, right up to the point he shouldered his weapon and opened fire?
 
I wonder what this guy would think if he saw an Arab walk into the airport with a machine gun.
 
RavenSky said:
zorq said:
I can't help but compare this to the Ohio Walmart shooting of the guy who picked up an airgun off of the store shelf.

http://rt.com/usa/190460-walmart-shooting-surveillance-video/
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Don't worry, Loren will explain how that was TOTALLY different, and John Crawford totally deserved to be killed.
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Crawford was holding brandishing a toy weapon. This guy kept his weapon slung and pointed at the ground. My wife takes her assault rifle to Walmart and the airport all the time and no-one ever raises an eyebrow. [/Loren]
 
While I don't agree with this douchebag's attention stunt, it is permissible to carry weapons in unsecured areas of airports in quite a few states (not just Georgia) provided you abide by the carry laws of that state.
 
Arctish said:
zorq said:
I can't help but compare this to the Ohio Walmart shooting of the guy who picked up an airgun off of the store shelf.

http://rt.com/usa/190460-walmart-shooting-surveillance-video/
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I can't help but compare it to Star Simpson. She was savaged in the press and by the general public for wearing a handmade blinky doodad to the airport, but this yahoo gets a free pass for strolling around the terminal with a 100-round assault weapon?

Can you say "white privilege"?
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Very good comparison. Star even comments:
I never talked to the TSA. I was in baggage claim. I didn't pass any security checkpoints. One of my friends pointed out that if you are exercising your right to bear arms, you can have 11 pounds of ammunition on you at that point. I didn't meet any TSA people that day.
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Loren Pechtel said:
laughing dog said:
Since he was a possible threat to shoot someone sometime, why wasn't he killed by the police?
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The picture seems to show a rifle slung across his back. An open-carry protester, not a threat.
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If I posted a rolling eyes smilie large enough that your response deserved, it'd crash the Internet.

You've ranted about stones being dangerous, naked men being dangerous, fleeing men are dangerous. All of a sudden having a large gun, but is slung over your back, makes you not dangerous?
 
Earl IV said:
While I don't agree with this douchebag's attention stunt, it is permissible to carry weapons in unsecured areas of airports in quite a few states (not just Georgia) provided you abide by the carry laws of that state.
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Like I said, leave your car unattended in front of the terminal for a minute and they detonate it and arrest you. Walk with a big ass gun in one of the busiest parts of an airport... meh.
 
I must be crazy or un-American, I'll have to accept that. But I don't want to live in a society with citizens walking around brandishing firearms. And there's no "non-brandishing" way to openly display a gun. The only time, to date, that I've encountered this was at our local coffee shop where lots of us sit out on the porch with coffees. There, one day, I encountered a couple who were both packing. Sipping coffee with guns at their waists. Fucking guns at a coffee shop. I didn't hang around to get their story or to celebrate their 2nd Amendment rights. I left. This country is gun crazy.
End of rant. Yes, I'm the crazy one. I'm delusional. I accept that.
 
If I were at the airport that day and saw this man, I would have insisted a cop detain him. It would have happened, even if I had to claim he pointed it directly at me. He was guilty of brandishing a weapon. If he so much as looked in my direction with any part of his body touching the weapon, he assaulted me. If he struck fear into anyone, justified fear or not, he is detainable. He may have the right to carry a gun, but I have the right to press charges that he brandished it with intent to cause fear, or even harm.
 
laughing dog said:
I'd like to see this guy pull the same stunt in a Wal-mart in Ohio.
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It should be noted that one also runs into the tiny technical problem of knowing what to do when something actually does happen. These people seem to think having a gun means they are qualified to handle SWAT situations. Kind of like the one man at the Walmart who tried to stop the couple that was robbing it and was shot.
 
ideologyhunter said:
I must be crazy or un-American, I'll have to accept that. But I don't want to live in a society with citizens walking around brandishing firearms. And there's no "non-brandishing" way to openly display a gun. The only time, to date, that I've encountered this was at our local coffee shop where lots of us sit out on the porch with coffees. There, one day, I encountered a couple who were both packing. Sipping coffee with guns at their waists. Fucking guns at a coffee shop. I didn't hang around to get their story or to celebrate their 2nd Amendment rights. I left. This country is gun crazy.
End of rant. Yes, I'm the crazy one. I'm delusional. I accept that.
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Brandishing involves a gun in hand and being pointed around, not merely a carried gun.

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Malintent said:
If I were at the airport that day and saw this man, I would have insisted a cop detain him. It would have happened, even if I had to claim he pointed it directly at me. He was guilty of brandishing a weapon. If he so much as looked in my direction with any part of his body touching the weapon, he assaulted me. If he struck fear into anyone, justified fear or not, he is detainable. He may have the right to carry a gun, but I have the right to press charges that he brandished it with intent to cause fear, or even harm.
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Good luck with the civil suit.
 
dismal said:
people who really wanted to shoot up an airport wouldn't just walk around with their gun out in the open?
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I would.

Seems this guy just demonstrated that you can.

It would probably be easier than trying to sneak a weapon that large into the airport.

If all you plan is to shoot a lot of people in the unsecured area then open carry would be the easiest way to achieve that in Atlanta.
 
scombrid said:
dismal said:
people who really wanted to shoot up an airport wouldn't just walk around with their gun out in the open?
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I would.

Seems this guy just demonstrated that you can.

It would probably be easier than trying to sneak a weapon that large into the airport.

If all you plan is to shoot a lot of people in the unsecured area then open carry would be the easiest way to achieve that in Atlanta.
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It's the perfect plan for a suicidal spree killer. This guy as revealed a critical flaw in airport security. One active shooter would pull all armed security to his location and leave the actual loading gates unprotected. Other people who have concealed weapons can easily board a plane and hijack it.

It's bizarre to see people defend this kind of thing, but is shows how precious the right to bear arms is in the US.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Brandishing involves a gun in hand and being pointed around, not merely a carried gun.

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Malintent said:
If I were at the airport that day and saw this man, I would have insisted a cop detain him. It would have happened, even if I had to claim he pointed it directly at me. He was guilty of brandishing a weapon. If he so much as looked in my direction with any part of his body touching the weapon, he assaulted me. If he struck fear into anyone, justified fear or not, he is detainable. He may have the right to carry a gun, but I have the right to press charges that he brandished it with intent to cause fear, or even harm.
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Good luck with the civil suit.
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Kind of reminds me of something that actually happened to my father, many years prior to 9/11. He has a fear of flying. Totally irrational phobia. He had to travel somewhere where the flight passed over a long stretch of ocean. This particularly scared him. He showed up for his flight wearing a life jacket.... full-on, over his clothes, big orange floatation device. He was not breaking any laws, as a big puffy vest that floats is not a prohibited item on a flight... HOWEVER, the airline would not let him board the craft wearing it. They said that he was scaring the other passengers by wearing it when there was no reason to do so. He complied, and the story doesn't get any more interesting....

My point is that while this man might have not broken the law by open-carrying into the unsecured area of the airport, he likely scared a lot of people. Scaring a lot of people by carrying a gun around is not just frowned upon by airport staff... it's fucking illegal... regardless of the direction the weapon is pointed at.

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I am also reminded of a story of a friend of mine... her boyfriend served 6 months in jail for 'brandishing a weapon' in NYC. He has a licensed handgun and carry (concealed only in NY) license. He was a doorman and had the permit to carry due to performing physical security services as part of his job.

One day, a man tried to gain entrance in his building without authorization. He confronted that man and a argument ensued. The man pushed him and he pushed back.. during the scuffle, his jacket which was covering his holstered pistol brushed back, exposing his gun briefly. The man put up his hands and backed off. Minutes later the doorman was arrested on charges of brandishing a weapon. He was found guilty and served time, with no dispute of the facts of the matter. The law (in NY, at least) is that if someone sees a gun and fears for their life, you brandished it.
 
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laughing dog said:
I'd like to see this guy pull the same stunt in a Wal-mart in Ohio.
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He is white. Even if any racist busybodies called the police and lied through their teeth about what they were witnessing (doubtful), the police would have noted the color of his skin and tried to talk him down before they opened fire on him, not after.
 
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