GOP Senator Wants To Block States From Setting Up Single-Payer Systems

[Elixir]

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said Tuesday that he’s so opposed to the idea of a single-payer health care system that he’s trying to block California or any other Democratic state from setting up such a system.

Fucking GOP hypocrite... States rights my ass!

 

[Derec]

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said Tuesday that he’s so opposed to the idea of a single-payer health care system that he’s trying to block California or any other Democratic state from setting up such a system.

Fucking GOP hypocrite... States rights my ass!

The headline is misleading. His proposal is not about blocking states from setting up anything, but about use of federal funds as part of the latest Obamacare repeal bill.

Kennedy is attempting to insert the issue into Republicans’ latest bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Under the so-called Cassidy-Graham legislation, states would be given block grants to set up their own health care systems. While the fate of the bill is unclear, the Louisiana senator seeks to add an amendment that would prevent states from using federal money for a single-payer system.

However you feel about the merits of that amendment, it is not about blocking states from doing anything.

 

[LordKiran]

The headline is misleading. His proposal is not about blocking states from setting up anything, but about use of federal funds as part of the latest Obamacare repeal bill.

Kennedy is attempting to insert the issue into Republicans’ latest bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Under the so-called Cassidy-Graham legislation, states would be given block grants to set up their own health care systems. While the fate of the bill is unclear, the Louisiana senator seeks to add an amendment that would prevent states from using federal money for a single-payer system.

However you feel about the merits of that amendment, it is not about blocking states from doing anything.

Doesn't seem in the republican spirit of keeping the feds out of local affairs, but then this is also far from the most egregious of right-wing hypocrisy.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

California should consider breaking off into its own country and then a bunch of other places should go and consider the same thing.

 

[LordKiran]

California should consider breaking off into its own country and then a bunch of other places should go and consider the same thing.

Nah, big picture that would be disastrous and leave us vulnerable to our rivals/natural competitors, and that's assuming you could get it to work.

 

[dismal]

Curse you, Sen. John Kennedy R-LA!

So, in the 240 years states have had the right to set up their own single payer system before Sen. John Kennedy rendered it nigh impossible how many have done it?

 

[LordKiran]

Curse you, Sen. John Kennedy R-LA!

So, in the 240 years states have had the right to set up their own single payer system before Sen. John Kennedy rendered it nigh impossible how many have done it?

A few (Hawaii, Maryland(?)) and they work pretty well where implemented.

 

[sharon45]

California should consider breaking off into its own country and then a bunch of other places should go and consider the same thing.

I can picture many Republicans thinking that California should do that.

 

[LordKiran]

California should consider breaking off into its own country and then a bunch of other places should go and consider the same thing.

I can picture many Republicans thinking that California should do that.

Or we can do like in Fallout's America and divide the country into 7 commonwealths made to compete with each other for resources.

 

[Elixir]

Curse you, Sen. John Kennedy R-LA!

So, in the 240 years states have had the right to set up their own single payer system before Sen. John Kennedy rendered it nigh impossible how many have done it?

A few (Hawaii, Maryland(?)) and they work pretty well where implemented.

B-b-b-but... that's SOCIALISM! Gotta outlaw it, no matter how well it works!

 

[skepticalbip]

California should consider breaking off into its own country and then a bunch of other places should go and consider the same thing.

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[dismal]

Curse you, Sen. John Kennedy R-LA!

So, in the 240 years states have had the right to set up their own single payer system before Sen. John Kennedy rendered it nigh impossible how many have done it?

A few (Hawaii, Maryland(?)) and they work pretty well where implemented.

I checked wikipedia and they don't seem to be aware of these existing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare

But maybe they are like socialism. They they don't actually exist, but damn they work great!

 

[LordKiran]

A few (Hawaii, Maryland(?)) and they work pretty well where implemented.

I checked wikipedia and they don't seem to be aware of these existing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare

But maybe they are like socialism. They they don't actually exist, but damn they work great!

My mistake, I was thinking of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Prepaid_Health_Care_Act

And this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_health_care_reform

Not single payer, but forms of Proto-ACA

 

[dismal]

I checked wikipedia and they don't seem to be aware of these existing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_healthcare

But maybe they are like socialism. They they don't actually exist, but damn they work great!

My mistake, I was thinking of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Prepaid_Health_Care_Act

And this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_health_care_reform

Not single payer, but forms of Proto-ACA

Yes, who among us does not fondly recall the Hawaiian Prepaid Health Care Act of 1974, and often confuse it with single payer that is working.

 

[KeepTalking]

Curse you, Sen. John Kennedy R-LA!

So, in the 240 years states have had the right to set up their own single payer system before Sen. John Kennedy rendered it nigh impossible how many have done it?

So, your rationale is: since no State has ever done it, it makes perfect sense to enact legislation to keep them from doing it now?

In other words, a solution searching for a problem.

 

[dismal]

Curse you, Sen. John Kennedy R-LA!

So, in the 240 years states have had the right to set up their own single payer system before Sen. John Kennedy rendered it nigh impossible how many have done it?

So, your rationale is: since no State has ever done it, it makes perfect sense to enact legislation to keep them from doing it now?

In other words, a solution searching for a problem.

You mean other than the fact his legislation does not actually prevent them from doing it now?

No, that wasn't my point.

Indeed, I think any state that wants to have single payer ought to go ahead and do it before this guy's bill passes.

 

[KeepTalking]

So, your rationale is: since no State has ever done it, it makes perfect sense to enact legislation to keep them from doing it now?

In other words, a solution searching for a problem.

You mean other than the fact his legislation does not actually prevent them from doing it now?

Your statement did not take this fact into account, so why should my response?

No, that wasn't my point.

Your point seemed to be that no State had set up single payer in 240 years prior to this legislation, which implies the legislation is harmless, since it doesn't impede anything that States have done. If you had another point, perhaps you should state what that point is, and exactly how one should arrive at that point from the statement you made.

 

[dismal]

You mean other than the fact his legislation does not actually prevent them from doing it now?

Your statement did not take this fact into account, so why should my response?

No, that wasn't my point.

Your point seemed to be that no State had set up single payer in 240 years prior to this legislation, which implies the legislation is harmless, since it doesn't impede anything that States have done. If you had another point, perhaps you should state what that point is, and exactly how one should arrive at that point from the statement you made.

Irrelevant, actually.

 

[Elixir]

You mean other than the fact his legislation does not actually prevent them from doing it now?

His legislation hasn't passed, so it doesn't prevent anything. But we can't take the chance that some state might go rogue when they're given a block grant in lieu of subsidies, and start that dreaded single-payer thing! What if it WORKS? That would be a travesty!

One amendment will make Medicaid’s work requirement mandatory, while the other will “set up a guard rail that would prohibit states from using the money we give them to set up a single-payer system,” Kennedy said.

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[Jason Harvestdancer]

Proposed legislation.

*Yawn*

Let me know if it ever makes it out of committee.