Grifters going to grift

[Loren Pechtel]

True the Vote Leadership Accused of Using Donations for Personal Gain

The conspiracy-peddling nonprofit made loans to founder Catherine Engelbrecht and issued contracts to longtime director Gregg Phillips that may have violated state and federal law, a watchdog complaint filed with the IRS alleges.

www.propublica.org

Why am I not the least surprised?

 

[ideologyhunter]

Their stated mission is to combat voter fraud. Am I safe in assuming, then, that they're investigating Trump's "I need 11,780 votes" call, and the seven-state fake elector scheme? That they have investigators on the ground who "can't believe what they're finding"??

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They will tackle that stuff but first they have to find the obvious fraud that is hidden so well, they can't find it.

 

[bilby]

They will tackle that stuff but first they have to find the obvious fraud that is hidden so well, they can't find it.

The libs just don't understand the first thing about how investigation works.

FIRST, you decide what happened: Donald Trump won the election.

THEN, you go and find the proof that it happened, and that the fact was illegally hidden by your enemies.

If you cannot find that proof, your failure serves as hard evidence of just how underhanded and cunning your enemies are. It's time for a more rigorous investigation. Those libs will break eventually, once they are in Guantanamo Bay being waterboarded.

It's not even a novel investigatory technique; The Spanish Inquisition piloted it with great success*.









* Even though nobody expected it

 

[robnisch]

MSN

Georgie makes a deal!

 

[ideologyhunter]

The Republican Party is certifiable at this point. Mass delusion. Paranoid conspiracy theories. People who are convinced that anyone 'non-movement' must be lying about corruption in the movement. A cult leader whose venality and criminality are obvious to the rest of us. Legions of underlings in support of the cult leader, willing to commit crimes for him. By their numbers, a mass group that is mostly impervious to deprogramming. I wish I believed they can't prevail in their determination to run the country by minority rule.

 

[Shadowy Man]

They will tackle that stuff but first they have to find the obvious fraud that is hidden so well, they can't find it.

The libs just don't understand the first thing about how investigation works.

FIRST, you decide what happened: Donald Trump won the election.

THEN, you go and find the proof that it happened, and that the fact was illegally hidden by your enemies.

If you cannot find that proof, your failure serves as hard evidence of just how underhanded and cunning your enemies are. It's time for a more rigorous investigation. Those libs will break eventually, once they are in Guantanamo Bay being waterboarded.

It's not even a novel investigatory technique; The Spanish Inquisition piloted it with great success*.

More recently, it also worked with Iraq's WMDs. The fact we couldn't find them after invading was proof he had them hidden.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

They will tackle that stuff but first they have to find the obvious fraud that is hidden so well, they can't find it.

The libs just don't understand the first thing about how investigation works.

FIRST, you decide what happened: Donald Trump won the election.

THEN, you go and find the proof that it happened, and that the fact was illegally hidden by your enemies.

If you cannot find that proof, your failure serves as hard evidence of just how underhanded and cunning your enemies are. It's time for a more rigorous investigation. Those libs will break eventually, once they are in Guantanamo Bay being waterboarded.

It's not even a novel investigatory technique; The Spanish Inquisition piloted it with great success*.

More recently, it also worked with Iraq's WMDs. The fact we couldn't find them after invading was proof he had them hidden.

The problem with Iraq was that his underlings kept reporting that they had successfully kept the WMD away from the inspectors. We didn't realize they were lying to him.

 

[Shadowy Man]

They will tackle that stuff but first they have to find the obvious fraud that is hidden so well, they can't find it.

The libs just don't understand the first thing about how investigation works.

FIRST, you decide what happened: Donald Trump won the election.

THEN, you go and find the proof that it happened, and that the fact was illegally hidden by your enemies.

If you cannot find that proof, your failure serves as hard evidence of just how underhanded and cunning your enemies are. It's time for a more rigorous investigation. Those libs will break eventually, once they are in Guantanamo Bay being waterboarded.

It's not even a novel investigatory technique; The Spanish Inquisition piloted it with great success*.

More recently, it also worked with Iraq's WMDs. The fact we couldn't find them after invading was proof he had them hidden.

The problem with Iraq was that his underlings kept reporting that they had successfully kept the WMD away from the inspectors. We didn't realize they were lying to him.

Who is the "he/his" in that sentence? Saddam? Your contention is that Saddam's own underlings were lying to him about the presence of WMD; i.e., that Saddam himself believe he had WMD and therefore the US believed it too?

According to this story, it was more that the US had intelligence from a supposed inside source who was actually fabricating information about WMDs in order to get Saddam's regime toppled. And it was upon this source's information that Colin Powell relied when making his case. That's quite different from your contention. Do you have any citations for your contention?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

More recently, it also worked with Iraq's WMDs. The fact we couldn't find them after invading was proof he had them hidden.

The problem with Iraq was that his underlings kept reporting that they had successfully kept the WMD away from the inspectors. We didn't realize they were lying to him.

Did they? Powell had no idea why Hussein would lie, hence... he guessed Hussein must have them somewhere. The answer could be as simple as Hussein wanted other countries to think they had the capabilities to keep them at bay.

We knew at the time, even if they had they stuff, it wasn't good any more. The inspections didn't find anything. And the real "Tailor of Panama" or Baghdad, Ahmed Chalabi, was selling quite the story. The W Admin was going to put that fool in charge of Iraq! And these idiots won re-election!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The problem with Iraq was that his underlings kept reporting that they had successfully kept the WMD away from the inspectors. We didn't realize they were lying to him.

Who is the "he/his" in that sentence? Saddam? Your contention is that Saddam's own underlings were lying to him about the presence of WMD; i.e., that Saddam himself believe he had WMD and therefore the US believed it too?

Yes. There was a lot of phantom stuff where people didn't report having failed to create it. And having reported it's creation they had to pretend it continued to exist.

We made the same mistake with the Russian economy--looking at what Moscow believed rather than what was actually on the ground.

 

[Shadowy Man]

The problem with Iraq was that his underlings kept reporting that they had successfully kept the WMD away from the inspectors. We didn't realize they were lying to him.

Who is the "he/his" in that sentence? Saddam? Your contention is that Saddam's own underlings were lying to him about the presence of WMD; i.e., that Saddam himself believe he had WMD and therefore the US believed it too?

Yes. There was a lot of phantom stuff where people didn't report having failed to create it. And having reported it's creation they had to pretend it continued to exist.

citation please.