Happy Holidays - 30 dead or wounded at parade

[Gospel]

Black Parents and family members: "He was a good boy" talk needs to stop.
White Parents and family members: Let us not look at that.

Derec

 

[Gospel]

Something is going on in the white community that is breading mass shooters yo. Yall dominate that. Wassup?

 

[Derec]

WOW!! Do you get all your material from the MAGA Twitter bots or do you invent it yourself?

No, I thought it up myself. Unlike some here, who can't have a thought without Black Twitter and Woke Reddit.

Do you have a cite for the central casting Antifa?

What kind of "cite" do you expect? I am just saying he looks like your typical Antifa.

Wanna see some pictures of your Trump-sucking friends?

I am not a Trump supporter, so they are hardly my "friends".

And in another post you associate '47' with the "COMMUNIST" AK-47. Ooh-ooh. Communist. Burn.

The Soviet origin of the rifle is probably why you see more leftist militants carrying AK47 style rifles over AR15 style rifles.

I'll bet you're one of the ilk that had to snarl when others were celebrating the life of Pete Seeger eight years ago. I'm not sure you're up-to-date on your MAGA memes though: Aren't today's communists using Jewish space lasers?

What are you babbling about? Pete Seeger? Space lasers? Indeed, I must not be up-to-date on that stuff.

As for '47, I guess you just don't appreciate how very very clever your own ilk is. Consider "Let's go, Brandon!" 'Brandon' is 'Biden' and 'Let's Go' is 'Fuck Joe.' Aren't your fellow travelers so very very clever? I'll bet many of them have 90+ IQs.

Again, they are not my fellow travelers nor are they my ilk. Pox on both their houses as far as I am concerned. But what I am upset about is the selective outrage and ignoring of left-wing extremism and left-wing violence.
As to "Let's Go Brandon", the origin of that is mainstream media running interference for Dems. When a crowd at a NASCAR race was chanting "Fuck Joe Biden" a reporter pretended they were chanting "Let's Go Brandon" (Brandon being the driver she was interviewing) and a slogan was born.

Speaking of "serious questions", the last time you pretended that it was the Left trying to terrorize America I showed stats indicating that it was the Right.

Actually, Islamists are still punching way above their numbers, both in US and globally. And they are allied with the Western far Left.
As to Left vs. Right violence proper, that only comes from massaging the stats quite vigorously. Like ignoring the 2020 insurrection (as well as insurrections from 2014 on), by leftist groups like #BLM (founded by trained Marxists after all) and Antifa.
I am not saying that there is not a problem of right-wing violence as well, but mainstream media, many on this forum as well as Dem politicians routinely downplay and ignore the left-wing violence and extremism.

Does your ilk think the FBI is part of the Jewish-Communist-AOC axis?

Where does "Jewish" enter your feverish rambings? It is your friends on the far Left that are rabidly anti-Israel for example and think that Hamas and Hezbollah are social justice organizations.

 

[Derec]

Something is going on in the white community that is breading mass shooters yo. Yall dominate that. Wassup?

Only if you ignore all the mass shootings not covered by national media. I.e. selection bias.

 

[Derec]

You made a presumption about him being antifa almost immediately, and you are asking other people to prove intention of the killer?!

Not presumption. Suspicion.

You were the first person in here to suggest motive and immediately made it political. But you want others to justify their opinions. How typical.

Well, it is the politics forum.

 

[Derec]

Ah yes... a typical anti-fascist.
Right down to the tie.

Because leftists never wear suits and ties?

How about this photo though?


Pink hair, pigtails and goggles though makes him look more alt left to me.

Looks like one of your own.

One of my own?

 

[abaddon]

The evidence right now leans to he's a nihilist who thinks life's so stupid that a person might as well kill himself or kill others. So probably he's trolling when he acts like he's got an interest in any political causes. But the draw to going to a Trump rally, and anything else they find that'll appear to tie him to the rightwing, makes sense because if you have no ideals because life seems totally stupid and disposable, that's where to go.

 

[Gospel]

Something is going on in the white community that is breading mass shooters yo. Yall dominate that. Wassup?

Only if you ignore all the mass shootings not covered by national media. I.e. selection bias.

Mass shootings as a number and not what the shooter intended. Maybe. But deliberately trying to kill as many random people as possible? That's the white community sir.

 

[prideandfall]

Pink hair, pigtails and goggles though makes him look more alt left to me.

yeah no. left-leaning political ideologues don't do random mass shootings. it just doesn't happen.
random acts of large scale public violence are always either unreservedly rightwing authoritarian ethnonationalists, or dubiously rightwing ethnonationalist loonies.
even the ones with no discernible motive outside of chaos are the sort of incel wannabe fascists that are right at home with the US conservative crowd.

Looks like one of your own.

One of my own?

yeah this is 100% your end of the political pond buddy, this shit absolutely does not happen from left wing extremists.

i'll pre-emptively respond to your pathetically predictable attempt at counter-point by linking to some lefty from the 60s who threw a brick at a government building:
left-wing violence, when it happens, is for a purpose.
in any given instance you may well be able to make the argument that the tactic was shitty and ineffective, but the reason behind is an attempt to enact change for the betterment of human civilization - actual betterment, as in improving the material living conditions of humans, not 'better' as in "now i can beat faggots to death without being called a homophobe" or whatever cuntery right wingers are up to these days.

you find me ONE example of someone who went on a public mass shooting rampage of strangers and was later found to ascribe their motives to trying to trigger a socialist utopia and i'll lick your taint clean as a whistle.

 

[prideandfall]

Something is going on in the white community that is breading mass shooters yo. Yall dominate that. Wassup?

Only if you ignore all the mass shootings not covered by national media. I.e. selection bias.

Mass shootings as a number and not what the shooter intended. Maybe. But deliberately trying to kill as many random people as possible? That's the white community sir.

it absolutely is, because white people are in a way the biggest and most direct victims of the lie that is the U.S. as a country, from a marketing standpoint.
i know how kinda fucked up this statement is, given the racial issues going on, but bear with me:

white men get told from the moment they can understand human language that they can be anything they want to be, do anything they want to do, and that there is an expectation for them to want to be at the top and to want to do the best of everything.
"live a moderate and comfortable life where you're happy and don't spend your life shackled to misery forged out of obligation" is simply not a concept white people have taught to them.

this becomes a problem when it slams up against the great lie of 'murica: that this is a realistic life goal to have and you can (and should) attain it.
this is the lie white people are born into, that greatness is within your grasp and can and should just reach out and take it and the world will give it to you.

depending on how hard that is mashed into your brain as you're growing up, when you get to adulthood (or near it) and realize your existence is in fact going to be 60 years of wage slavery at a soul-destroying job that you hate with every fiber of your being but are trapped in because you have to legally provide for the children you spunked into the first woman dumb enough to spread her legs for you, at some point some people just fuckin' snap.

 

[Derec]

Whoever this person is, it's not like he's taking marching orders from some political party... Neither Pelosi nor Trump called him up and were like "we will begin with the parades!"

The Bernie Bro who shot up the Congressional baseball game did not actually get orders from Bernie Sanders. That does not mean he was not a Bernie Bro.

 

[Derec]

That's odd, because you'd think killing people would mean they were more dangerous. Extremely more dangerous.

As he was shooting at people, yes. Had an officer come up upon him then, he'd have been toast.
But they caught him hours later, and it was clear to them that he left his rifle behind.

This is an interesting look at it, and potentially a small part of the solution as the police officers on site were inhibited from better judgment due to adrenaline and the officers were NOT in control of their actions. The officers put themselves in ridiculous prone positions relative to suspect in Akron.

Prone positions?

At least some of the officers had absolutely no cover... for absolutely no tactical gain whatsoever. They could have hung around their cars and waited.

Waited for what exactly? He was running away. He was not likely to come back.

 

[Derec]

Two issues arose about Crimo. In 2019 he threatened to kill himself. Authorities were called and he was given mental health treatment. That same year, he threatened to kill "everybody". Police were again called. They removed 16 knives including a sword.

We really need red flag laws for stuff like that.
Do we know where he got his rifle? If it was given to him by his parents, who must have known about his problems, they should be both criminally and civilly liable.

 

[Derec]

Well, just imagine how dangerous he would have been with a katana rather than a gun.

Not as clumsy or random as a pistol or a rifle; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

 

[Gospel]

Something is going on in the white community that is breading mass shooters yo. Yall dominate that. Wassup?

Only if you ignore all the mass shootings not covered by national media. I.e. selection bias.

Mass shootings as a number and not what the shooter intended. Maybe. But deliberately trying to kill as many random people as possible? That's the white community sir.

it absolutely is, because white people are in a way the biggest and most direct victims of the lie that is the U.S. as a country, from a marketing standpoint.
i know how kinda fucked up this statement is, given the racial issues going on, but bear with me:

white men get told from the moment they can understand human language that they can be anything they want to be, do anything they want to do, and that there is an expectation for them to want to be at the top and to want to do the best of everything.
"live a moderate and comfortable life where you're happy and don't spend your life shackled to misery forged out of obligation" is simply not a concept white people have taught to them.

this becomes a problem when it slams up against the great lie of 'murica: that this is a realistic life goal to have and you can (and should) attain it.
this is the lie white people are born into, that greatness is within your grasp and can and should just reach out and take it and the world will give it to you.

depending on how hard that is mashed into your brain as you're growing up, when you get to adulthood (or near it) and realize your existence is in fact going to be 60 years of wage slavery at a soul-destroying job that you hate with every fiber of your being but are trapped in because you have to legally provide for the children you spunked into the first woman dumb enough to spread her legs for you, at some point some people just fuckin' snap.

Black folks were sold the same lie after emancipation just to find out politically, legally, and socially it wasn't the case; I get it. Same street different name.

 

[laughing dog]

Whoever this person is, it's not like he's taking marching orders from some political party... Neither Pelosi nor Trump called him up and were like "we will begin with the parades!"

The Bernie Bro who shot up the Congressional baseball game did not actually get orders from Bernie Sanders. That does not mean he was not a Bernie Bro.

Doesn’t mean being a Bernie Bro had anything to do with it.

How come you don’t apply the same sort of “ reasoning” and point out thus killer is a white guy?

 

[Derec]

There is no purpose in allowing weapons of mass death in the hands of your average citizen, let alone someone you don't trust enough to hold a jack-knife.

Btw, how do you define "weapons of mass death"?

 

[Politesse]

There is no purpose in allowing weapons of mass death in the hands of your average citizen, let alone someone you don't trust enough to hold a jack-knife.

Btw, how do you define "weapons of mass death"?

Weapons that allow an individual to cause mass deaths.

 

[Gospel]

There is no purpose in allowing weapons of mass death in the hands of your average citizen, let alone someone you don't trust enough to hold a jack-knife.

Btw, how do you define "weapons of mass death"?

What did the forefathers who wrote the constitution think arms were? Be honest.

 

[Politesse]

There is no purpose in allowing weapons of mass death in the hands of your average citizen, let alone someone you don't trust enough to hold a jack-knife.

Btw, how do you define "weapons of mass death"?

What did the forefathers who wrote the constitution think arms were? Be honest.

Something that ought to be well-regulated, for one.