Harry Styles decides to wear different clothes. Conservofascists freak out.

[GenesisNemesis]

And how is calling anything you don't like Marxism any different than calling anything you don't like fascism?

I don't call anything I don't like fascism. I've observed repeated behaviors (SUCH AS DENYING ELECTION RESULTS) by Trump and his followers which indicate to me that they're fascists. There are plenty more examples I can point to. This isn't fucking rocket science.

I didn't say that YOU did that. The "you" there was a universal, general 'you'.

Oh sorry I just read words like any normal person would.

 

[Jarhyn]

Someone a month or so ago was going through all of the top ten songs and Styles' song was the only one that had merit to my taste. From the ground up it had a good melody and was not just a unmelodic overstuffed palette of sound textures like is common now.

Come back to me after listening to some Televisor, Mystery Skulls, Stromae, or Madeon.

One thing to note is that in many cases, the issue is not overstuffing so much as a lack of the mental infrastructure necessary to actually appreciate the music; or a lack of the general context wherein the music is normally appreciated. Certainly, dance and disco music took on a lot of derision in the 90's because dance culture fell out of vogue; if you aren't in a dance context, the music generally doesn't make sense.

At any rate, much of it comes from some intersection of a lack of exposure, a lack of context, and a lack of acuity.

 

[Angry Floof]

Someone a month or so ago was going through all of the top ten songs and Styles' song was the only one that had merit to my taste. From the ground up it had a good melody and was not just a unmelodic overstuffed palette of sound textures like is common now.

Come back to me after listening to some Televisor, Mystery Skulls, Stromae, or Madeon.

One thing to note is that in many cases, the issue is not overstuffing so much as a lack of the mental infrastructure necessary to actually appreciate the music; or a lack of the general context wherein the music is normally appreciated. Certainly, dance and disco music took on a lot of derision in the 90's because dance culture fell out of vogue; if you aren't in a dance context, the music generally doesn't make sense.

At any rate, much of it comes from some intersection of a lack of exposure, a lack of context, and a lack of acuity.

I'm curious about how old you are, Jarhyn. I wonder because I lived through the disco age and it was ridiculed from the get go, and it got as much disrespect as enthusiasm right from the start. No one waited until it was out of fashion.

 

[southernhybrid]

Someone a month or so ago was going through all of the top ten songs and Styles' song was the only one that had merit to my taste. From the ground up it had a good melody and was not just a unmelodic overstuffed palette of sound textures like is common now.

Come back to me after listening to some Televisor, Mystery Skulls, Stromae, or Madeon.

One thing to note is that in many cases, the issue is not overstuffing so much as a lack of the mental infrastructure necessary to actually appreciate the music; or a lack of the general context wherein the music is normally appreciated. Certainly, dance and disco music took on a lot of derision in the 90's because dance culture fell out of vogue; if you aren't in a dance context, the music generally doesn't make sense.

At any rate, much of it comes from some intersection of a lack of exposure, a lack of context, and a lack of acuity.

I'm curious about how old you are, Jarhyn. I wonder because I lived through the disco age and it was ridiculed from the get go, and it got as much disrespect as enthusiasm right from the start. No one waited until it was out of fashion.

Well, if it wasn't for disco, I would never have met my wonderful spouse. I'm a huge fan of soul and funk, but every now and then when I feel like dancing while doing housework, disco fits just fine. "Bad girls....talking about the bad girls..." Unfortunately, I can no longer shake my body down to the ground, but it sure was fun when I was in my late 20s. But hey. I thought this thread was about a guy wearing a dress! What did I miss?

 

[ideologyhunter]

I was in my twenties at the height of disco. I don't ever look at photos of me from back then -- I'd probably see a certain rust-colored polyester leisure suit coat I owned back then. Ugly!! Ugly like furniture and lamps were in the 50s. A perfect match for the rust-colored shag rugs you saw back then. And for a while, men wore choker necklaces -- mine was made of ceramic beads. Un-friggin-believable.

 

[ruby sparks]

Someone a month or so ago was going through all of the top ten songs and Styles' song was the only one that had merit to my taste. From the ground up it had a good melody and was not just a unmelodic overstuffed palette of sound textures like is common now.

He is quite talented, imo. He's not exactly groundbreaking (is quite derivative) and you'd have to like commercial pop music.

 

[ruby sparks]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8R-zl7SDUU[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olGSAVOkkTI[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Angry Floof]

I'm curious about how old you are, Jarhyn. I wonder because I lived through the disco age and it was ridiculed from the get go, and it got as much disrespect as enthusiasm right from the start. No one waited until it was out of fashion.

Well, if it wasn't for disco, I would never have met my wonderful spouse. I'm a huge fan of soul and funk, but every now and then when I feel like dancing while doing housework, disco fits just fine. "Bad girls....talking about the bad girls..." Unfortunately, I can no longer shake my body down to the ground, but it sure was fun when I was in my late 20s. But hey. I thought this thread was about a guy wearing a dress! What did I miss?

I think I can top that. I *disco roller skated*. And I idolized Farrah Fawcett, so when I heard her say in an interview that she loved disco, I decided I loved disco, too.

 

[Keith&Co.]

the disco age and it was ridiculed from the get go, and it got as much disrespect as enthusiasm right from the start. No one waited until it was out of fashion.

yes. I once thoight it was the area i grew up in. The only disco in the Valley was in the next county, and it was only Disco on Friday and Saturday night. The rest of the week, it alternated between Country and Western.
The Rodney Dangerfield's disco song came out..."a music form where the drum carries the melody."
And of course, Disco Duck.
Yeah, no one waited until the 90s to deride it.

 

[ZiprHead]

the disco age and it was ridiculed from the get go, and it got as much disrespect as enthusiasm right from the start. No one waited until it was out of fashion.

yes. I once thoight it was the area i grew up in. The only disco in the Valley was in the next county, and it was only Disco on Friday and Saturday night. The rest of the week, it alternated between Country and Western.
The Rodney Dangerfield's disco song came out..."a music form where the drum carries the melody."
And of course, Disco Duck.
Yeah, no one waited until the 90s to deride it.

I see what you did there.

 

[ruby sparks]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ8vp7D1hrI[/YOUTUBE]

There was never anything wrong with disco, and there still isn't.

 

[Patooka]

The most hilarious part of this "controversy" is how outraged Ben Shapiro is about it all.

Because when I think masculinity, the image that comes to my head is a 5'3" twerp who weighs 50kgs tops and if you ever gave him helium, he would shatter every window in a 50 metre radius.

 

[Metaphor]

The most hilarious part of this "controversy" is how outraged Ben Shapiro is about it all.

Because when I think masculinity, the image that comes to my head is a 5'3" twerp who weighs 50kgs tops and if you ever gave him helium, he would shatter every window in a 50 metre radius.

Thank Goodness the only body-shaming injunction on the left is speaking about the physical attributes of women, and that mocking men for their bodies is still kosher.

 

[Patooka]

The most hilarious part of this "controversy" is how outraged Ben Shapiro is about it all.

Because when I think masculinity, the image that comes to my head is a 5'3" twerp who weighs 50kgs tops and if you ever gave him helium, he would shatter every window in a 50 metre radius.

Thank Goodness the only body-shaming injunction on the left is speaking about the physical attributes of women, and that mocking men for their bodies is still kosher.

Yep, you're absolutely right. It has nothing to do with pointing out the hypocrisy of someone who has a very narrow view on what being a man is whilst portraying none of the characteristics themselves. You are absolutely correct.

 

[Metaphor]

The most hilarious part of this "controversy" is how outraged Ben Shapiro is about it all.

Because when I think masculinity, the image that comes to my head is a 5'3" twerp who weighs 50kgs tops and if you ever gave him helium, he would shatter every window in a 50 metre radius.

Thank Goodness the only body-shaming injunction on the left is speaking about the physical attributes of women, and that mocking men for their bodies is still kosher.

Yep, you're absolutely right. It has nothing to do with pointing out the hypocrisy of someone who has a very narrow view on what being a man is whilst portraying none of the characteristics themselves. You are absolutely correct.

No. Ben Shapiro has never, as far as I know, claimed that a man's worth, or at least his masculinity, is defined by his height or his voice or his weight. Ben Shapiro does seem to think, however, that the behaviour of men wearing the clothing more typical of the female sex is unmasculine and (I imagine Ben thinks) a symbol of the rejection of other masculine ideals.

I'm not a short man but I have short male friends. Short men are routinely bullied, mocked by wider society, discriminated against in the workplace, and reviled in the heterosexual dating market.

The unvarnished hypocrisy of the left on matters of physical appearance has only ceased to amaze me because it's so routine. In particular, if it's a man who is right wing, his appearance is 100% fair game to mock.

 

[Politesse]

The most hilarious part of this "controversy" is how outraged Ben Shapiro is about it all.

Because when I think masculinity, the image that comes to my head is a 5'3" twerp who weighs 50kgs tops and if you ever gave him helium, he would shatter every window in a 50 metre radius.

Thank Goodness the only body-shaming injunction on the left is speaking about the physical attributes of women, and that mocking men for their bodies is still kosher.

Well, this leftist is pretty damn offended. Fuck you Patooka, neither physique nor weight nor pitch of voice can make you a man so you're going to be stuck relying on your character. Good luck.

 

[repoman]

Seems more like Patooka was saying that Shapiro's economy sized physique might be partly underlying his outlook on this. It very well may.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Gonna give Harry Styles an A+ for his masterful trolling of the far right pundit monkeys.

 

[TomC]

Gonna give Harry Styles an A+ for his masterful trolling of the far right pundit monkeys.

Heck.
I have no interest in wearing women's clothing. To me, it's kinda gross. I left an art show, leaving thousands of dollars worth of product unattended, when a buddy pointed out that my work apron and shorts made it look like I was wearing a skirt.

But I'd totally wear a dress for Vogue if I got paid what Harry Styles got paid. Call me a conservative capitalist if you must. I don't care.
Tom

 

[krypton iodine sulfur]

But I'd totally wear a dress for Vogue if I got paid what Harry Styles got paid. Call me a conservative capitalist if you must. I don't care.
Tom

I heard they paid him in dresses. I've contacted Vogue to let them know you're willing. They'd like to know your size.