Harvard Rescinds Admission To Conservative Kyle Kashuv Over Private Racist Remarks He Wrote At 16

[Half-Life]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/47971/hold-harvard-rescinds-admission-conservative-kyle-ben-shapiro

"In a normal world, this would have been enough. Kashuv is 18 years old, and he wrote the comments when he was 16. He didn’t commit a crime; he didn’t espouse his gross views publicly; his behavior since has not mimicked any of the content or attitude of the comments. He also underwent a life-changing trauma — the kind of trauma that has provided an unbreakable shield of protection from the media for all other Parkland survivors. Hell, criticizing outspoken anti-gun activist David Hogg was considered an act of extreme evil by the mainstream media, an act worthy of advertiser boycott."

"Not for Kashuv.

His apology wasn't sufficient, Harvard determined. Instead, Harvard University issued a letter asking Kashuv to explain his comments or face the rescinding of his attendance."

What do you guys think? I remember when Illhan Omar said that the judge should go easy on young men joining ISIS, you guys agreed with her saying they deserve a second chance. So, obviously you guys agree here that Harvard is being disgusting, right?

 

[Politesse]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/47971/hold-harvard-rescinds-admission-conservative-kyle-ben-shapiro

"In a normal world, this would have been enough. Kashuv is 18 years old, and he wrote the comments when he was 16. He didn’t commit a crime; he didn’t espouse his gross views publicly; his behavior since has not mimicked any of the content or attitude of the comments. He also underwent a life-changing trauma — the kind of trauma that has provided an unbreakable shield of protection from the media for all other Parkland survivors. Hell, criticizing outspoken anti-gun activist David Hogg was considered an act of extreme evil by the mainstream media, an act worthy of advertiser boycott."

"Not for Kashuv.

His apology wasn't sufficient, Harvard determined. Instead, Harvard University issued a letter asking Kashuv to explain his comments or face the rescinding of his attendance."

What do you guys think? I remember when Illhan Omar said that the judge should go easy on young men joining ISIS, you guys agreed with her saying they deserve a second chance. So, obviously you guys agree here that Harvard is being disgusting, right?

It's not about morality, it's about image; the second his story became a news item, his application was irrevocably doomed. Harvard is a business, not a school, and it makes decisions like a business.

 

[Half-Life]

Did you miss this tweet by Kyle?

"Throughout its history, Harvard’s faculty has included slave owners, segregationists, bigots and antisemites. If Harvard is suggesting that growth isn't possible and that our past defines our future, then Harvard is an inherently racist institution. But I don't believe that."

 

[Derec]

So has Harvard ever rescinded admission to a black student who tweeted something borderline racist at 16? Or is that kind of scrutiny only applicable to whites?
Rhetorical question, of course. Harvard has professors far more racist than Kyle.

 

[dismal]

I haven't seen the posts, but I don't have a big problem with this in general.

Their school, their rules.

 

[Half-Life]

I haven't seen the posts, but I don't have a big problem with this in general.

Their school, their rules.

The Daily Wire (Shapiro, Knowles, Klavan, Walsh) is steaming mad about this.

 

[laughing dog]

Getting only Kashuv's version of events makes it seem like he is getting a raw deal, especially given the timing of the rescission limits this young man's higher education options.

 

[Politesse]

Getting only Kashuv's version of events makes it seem like he is getting a raw deal, especially given the timing of the rescission limits this young man's higher education options.

So does putting all of your eggs in one basket, especially when that basket is Harvard. What they did is wrong, what he did is twice foolish.

 

[laughing dog]

Getting only Kashuv's version of events makes it seem like he is getting a raw deal, especially given the timing of the rescission limits this young man's higher education options.

So does putting all of your eggs in one basket, especially when that basket is Harvard. What they did is wrong, what he did is twice foolish.

I agree, but expecting teenagers to think like mature portfolio managers is unrealistic.

I would like Harvard's version of events in order to make an informed judgment.

 

[Politesse]

Kashuv was already becoming well-known in political circles, and not the same ones Harvard caters to, rather as a darling of the NRA - realistically, his application was never going to survive the discovery of its acceptance by the news media. And he did, after all, do the things he is accused of. It is true that he was 16 when he did them, but it is also true that colleges have no other logical basis on which to choose a new 18 year old student than the things they did at 16 and 17. That's when he got his GPA and all of his qualifications, too. If he is outperformed by a student with similar qualifications and none of his mistakes, they have earned their spot, for whatever good it will do them.

Perhaps he should send those grinning photos of himself and Donald Trump along with his application to Wharton, they might be more impressed.

 

[repoman]

So a classmate of his must have leaked this info?

Cut himself on that edge.

 

[laughing dog]

Kashuv was already becoming well-known in political circles, and not the same ones Harvard caters to, rather as a darling of the NRA - realistically, his application was never going to survive the discovery of its acceptance by the news media. And he did, after all, do the things he is accused of. It is true that he was 16 when he did them, but it is also true that colleges have no other logical basis on which to choose a new 18 year old student than the things they did at 16 and 17. That's when he got his GPA and all of his qualifications, too. If he is outperformed by a student with similar qualifications and none of his mistakes, they have earned their spot, for whatever good it will do them.

Mr. Kashuv disavows those remarks characterize his views now. Perhaps he has or perhaps he feels he has but has not. Perhaps the latter is the view of Harvard. I am leery of accepting his version of events.

Perhaps he should send those grinning photos of himself and Donald Trump along with his application to Wharton, they might be more impressed.

I doubt it.

 

[Politesse]

I note that I somehow made it through my own junior year of high school without advocating that anyone ought to, in Kashuv's words, "Kill all the fucking jews." or "fucking make a CSOG map of Douglas and practice"; if such a thing were lurking in my recent past, I would not be surprised if it cost me a college admission later, genuinely regretful though I might be. Upset, sure, but not surprised, and I would know it was hopeless to try and fight it. What's he gonna do, sue to gain entrance? They'd eat him alive as a student just as surely.

Part of becoming an adult in the post Millennial world is understanding that 1.) there's not much tolerance for overtly genocidal or pro-mass-shooting sympathies in the public sector these days 2.) the internet never forgets.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Isn't it interesting that conservatives only care about moral character when doing so serves the white power structure? Now, Harvard says they expect students to have moral character, and suddenly conservatives are like "no, no, this is exactly what is wrong in the country...caring about morals!" Haha, and at the same time they are legislating against abortion...and that's because it is again about power, not morality, that's the one thing in common.

Also, note the following that the poor conservative wrote:
"I have recently been made aware of screenshots circulating that include offensive comments former classmates and I made a few years ago..."

yet he called it private. It wasn't a private diary but an exchange. Someone, one of his classmates within the non-private discussion was offended by his immoral racist language and so sent it off to Harvard. Either that, or it wasn't private and someone googled him and found it on the Internet. So, let's give the guy a break and say he was privately being racist with people in his Google document share and person(s) were offended by his racist comments.

Did he apologize? NOPE. He apologized to HARVARD. AFTER he was caught. Then, when they didn't accept his apology, he cried like a whiney brat because he wasn't really sorry in the first place.

Perfectly conservative. Republican politician material.

 

[Derec]

Also, note the following that the poor conservative wrote:
"I have recently been made aware of screenshots circulating that include offensive comments former classmates and I made a few years ago..."

It's about consistency. I doubt Harvard is denying admission to black students caught making offensive comments years earlier.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Part of becoming an adult in the post Millennial world is understanding that 1.) there's not much tolerance for overtly genocidal or pro-mass-shooting sympathies in the public sector these days 2.) the internet never forgets.

He wasn't an adult when he said it.

But he was 16 so maybe that's plenty old enough. How young would you extend this? 14? 10? Is 7 too young? How about 5?

 

[Patooka]

I haven't seen the posts, but I don't have a big problem with this in general.

Their school, their rules.

The Daily Wire (Shapiro, Knowles, Klavan, Walsh) is steaming mad about this.

Bullshit. They're over the moon. The Koch brothers have another foot soldier for life.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Also, note the following that the poor conservative wrote:
"I have recently been made aware of screenshots circulating that include offensive comments former classmates and I made a few years ago..."

It's about consistency. I doubt Harvard is denying admission to black students caught making offensive comments years earlier.

Hahaha, says you, the Chief Inconsistent Officer of the Intertubes.

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I note that I somehow made it through my own junior year of high school without advocating that anyone ought to, in Kashuv's words, "Kill all the fucking jews." or "fucking make a CSOG map of Douglas and practice"; if such a thing were lurking in my recent past, I would not be surprised if it cost me a college admission later, genuinely regretful though I might be. Upset, sure, but not surprised, and I would know it was hopeless to try and fight it. What's he gonna do, sue to gain entrance? They'd eat him alive as a student just as surely.

Part of becoming an adult in the post Millennial world is understanding that 1.) there's not much tolerance for overtly genocidal or pro-mass-shooting sympathies in the public sector these days 2.) the internet never forgets.

Yeah, not being smart enough to figure out that shit like that wouldn't fly at Harvard is pretty much all he should have needed to know he wouldn't fly at Harvard. But then, Dunning Kruger and all.

 

[Half-Life]

I haven't seen the posts, but I don't have a big problem with this in general.

Their school, their rules.

The Daily Wire (Shapiro, Knowles, Klavan, Walsh) is steaming mad about this.

Bullshit. They're over the moon. The Koch brothers have another foot soldier for life.

No, all their shows on the Daily Wire today were talking about how terrible Harvard is for this. Then of course the comments on the videos "How much more of the crazy left can we take before we start another civil war?"