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People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
It hasn't happened to *him* yet, so he doesn't care.
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
It hasn't happened to *him* yet, so he doesn't care.
Those plans look great and actually are great ( depending on where you live) —until they aren’t.
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
Really? Not according to this:

Medicare Advantage

An MA plan must provide enrollees in that plan with coverage of all services that are covered by Medicare Parts A and B, plus additional benefits beyond those covered by Medicare.​

Part C is an alternative to traditional Medicare that allows private health insurance companies to provide Medicare benefits. The private health plans are known as Medicare Advantage plans and are regulated and reimbursed by the federal government.
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
It hasn't happened to *him* yet, so he doesn't care.
I wouldn't quite go that far.
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
It hasn't happened to *him* yet, so he doesn't care.
I wouldn't quite go that far.
Ohhh nooo I'm being uncharitable to the TDS guy nooo
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
Really? Not according to this:

Medicare Advantage

An MA plan must provide enrollees in that plan with coverage of all services that are covered by Medicare Parts A and B, plus additional benefits beyond those covered by Medicare.​

Part C is an alternative to traditional Medicare that allows private health insurance companies to provide Medicare benefits. The private health plans are known as Medicare Advantage plans and are regulated and reimbursed by the federal government.
Per Google AI
Hospitals and medical groups nationwide are increasingly dropping Medicare Advantage (MA) plans, citing excessive claim denials, burdensome prior authorization requirements, and low reimbursement rates. Notable systems, such as Scripps Health in California and others across the country, have opted out of these plans.
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Irrelevant
There's a little up button to this quote if you want the context. But I like how you dismiss White Power as "Irrelevant". And yeah, I cut your quote.

But in the 20+ years I've been a member on this forum I've never, not once hear you condemn white supremacy. In fact, I think you are going to offended by me saying that.
 
How exactly were Hillary "the future is female" Clinton and Kamala "I will ban fracking and offshore drilling" Harris "MAGA-lite"? I would say they were far more left-coded than any of the successful Dem presidential candidates in recent history
Tell me you hate the left without saying you hate the left.
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
Granted, for the sake of argument.

How is a Medigap policy (supplemental insurance to cover traditional Medicare co-pays and deductibles) any different?
 
I"m not going to read all of the above posts because I don't have time. I'll just say that the Advantage Plans, regardless of which company provides the plan must abide by the rules of Medicare. The Part A coverage is almost identical to Medicare Part A, and while the copays may be different for Part A and Part B, it provides pretty much the same coverage. Part D, aka the drug coverage is included in the low monthly premium and my AP's drug coverage is better than the one I had prior to having an AP. Traditional Medicare gives no help with things like vision, dental or hearing, but APs do. I'm not saying they are better, but they are far less expensive and all of my close friends who are on Medicare have an Advantage Plan due the affordability.

For two people our age, traditional Medicare with a drug plan, dental plan and a supplement would cost us close to 1000 dollars a month, more than any mortgage we had prior to paying off our last mortgage. Our AP costs us about 400 a month for the two of us, and we've been using one for over 5 years without any problems. Most large medical groups accept APs, especially for primary care. As I said before, I don't want aggressive care at this point in my life. Neither did my late mother, but she was very healthy until age 90 when she developed signs of dementia but then lived for 7 more years, the first two, she was still very active and only mildly forgetful. She also had medical coverage due to my late father being a disabled veteran, but she barely ever needed any medical coverage. And no Medicare plan pays for long term care, other than 21 days of inpatient rehab, home health if you are unstable medically or need PT, ST or OT. That's about it! Long term care insurance is very expensive and it usually only lasts for about 4 years. If you are dirt poor and have spent down just about all of your assets, you may get long term care from Medicaid. Most of my former patients had Medicare Advantage plans and they received the care they needed.

I'm not saying these plans are wonderful. I'm saying they are far less expensive and for the most part, they cover what traditional Medicare does, but with higher copays for certain things. If we can save 600 bucks a month on the cost of coverage, we can. use that money for copays etc. if and when needed. So far, it's worked well for us. Of course, if you have lots of savings like we do, it sure does help. If you can't afford traditional Medicare, it helps too.

I know a woman who was still working almost full time at age 85, just so she could keep her traditional Medicare plan. Her supplement was over 350 a month and that was at least 10 years ago. Part B was only about 105 back then. It's about 200 a month now. She was paid less than the minimum wage, under the table, so she could continue to receive her rent subsidized apartment. Both she and her employer were doing something illegal, but that was on them. Sadly, she didn't have a Part D plan so if she ended up needing expensive drugs, that would be on her. If you don't get Part D when you first start on Medicare, the cost of the premium will be much higher, the longer you wait. The APs cover Part D. Plus I had a Part D when I started on Medicare over 10 years ago. All Part D plans are provided by private insurance companies, as are supplements, so it's not just APs that are managed by private insurance companies. To each their own.

I do strongly suggest getting a good insurance agent once you are on Medicare. Mine gives really good advice, answers any questions and at least seems to be very caring. She never pushes any kind of coverage on you, but is very knowledgeable abut all the available plans. If you're not happy with your plan, she does her best on finding you something else, regardless fit's a drug plan, supplement, or AP. She also warns about any scams out there as well. Right now, there are a lot of Medicare scams, things that were never performed being paid for, so it's very important to check your Medicare statements to make sure there is nothing on the statement that you never received. Due to Musk, a lot of information has been leaked. Mr. Sohy got a letter from a doctor's office almost 100 miles from us, telling us that they received all of his medical information and plan ID. My neighbor got one from someone as well. This incompetent, corrupt administration is doing far more harm compared to anything else, so be careful and check you statements carefully.

If I've made a lot of typos, I apologize, My eyes are kind of blurry this morning.
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
Really? Not according to this:

Medicare Advantage

An MA plan must provide enrollees in that plan with coverage of all services that are covered by Medicare Parts A and B, plus additional benefits beyond those covered by Medicare.​

Part C is an alternative to traditional Medicare that allows private health insurance companies to provide Medicare benefits. The private health plans are known as Medicare Advantage plans and are regulated and reimbursed by the federal government.
Per Google AI
Hospitals and medical groups nationwide are increasingly dropping Medicare Advantage (MA) plans, citing excessive claim denials, burdensome prior authorization requirements, and low reimbursement rates. Notable systems, such as Scripps Health in California and others across the country, have opted out of these plans.
Also

Your link does not support your statement that they "can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit". In fact, it supports what I said about them being required to follow the rules established by Medicare. It does indicate a small percentage (13%) were not valid denials, though:

The Office of the Inspector General reached a similar conclusion, finding that 13% of Medicare Advantage coverage denials met original Medicare criteria. In response to these findings, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a final rule clarifying that Medicare Advantage coverage may not be more restrictive than original Medicare. In response to these findings, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a final rule clarifying that Medicare Advantage coverage may not be more restrictive than original Medicare.

You have to do your due diligence when shopping for a MA plan, though. They have a federal 5 star rating system, so you can check whether yours is highly rated. I selected the best rated one I could for my area. As SoHy said, they also come with vision, hearing, dental and Part D. Plus, preventative care benefits, like free gym membership, etc at minimal extra cost. I'm only paying an additional $35/month for all that extra stuff...well worth it to me.
 
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People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
It hasn't happened to *him* yet, so he doesn't care.
What do you even know about Medicare? You're barely 30 years old, if that. You're just doing your usual insult attempts. Give it a rest, dude.
 
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People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
It hasn't happened to *him* yet, so he doesn't care.
What do you even know about Medicare? You're barely 30 years old, if that. You're just doing your usual insult attempts. Give it a rest, dude.
I'm 34 years old. That's "barely" 30 years old? Also I probably have more life experience than you do regardless of my knowledge of Medicare.
 
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People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of a commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
Granted, for the sake of argument.

How is a Medigap policy (supplemental insurance to cover traditional Medicare co-pays and deductibles) any different?
It's really not. My wife has a medigap policy. It was quite surprising to me how much they don't actually pay and my wife still does.
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
Really? Not according to this:

Medicare Advantage

An MA plan must provide enrollees in that plan with coverage of all services that are covered by Medicare Parts A and B, plus additional benefits beyond those covered by Medicare.​

Part C is an alternative to traditional Medicare that allows private health insurance companies to provide Medicare benefits. The private health plans are known as Medicare Advantage plans and are regulated and reimbursed by the federal government.
Per Google AI
Hospitals and medical groups nationwide are increasingly dropping Medicare Advantage (MA) plans, citing excessive claim denials, burdensome prior authorization requirements, and low reimbursement rates. Notable systems, such as Scripps Health in California and others across the country, have opted out of these plans.
Also

Your link does not support your statement that they "can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit". In fact, it supports what I said about them being required to follow the rules established by Medicare. It does indicate a small percentage (13%) were not valid denials, though:

The Office of the Inspector General reached a similar conclusion, finding that 13% of Medicare Advantage coverage denials met original Medicare criteria. In response to these findings, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a final rule clarifying that Medicare Advantage coverage may not be more restrictive than original Medicare. In response to these findings, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a final rule clarifying that Medicare Advantage coverage may not be more restrictive than original Medicare.
That Medicare had to step in and make the insurers follow the rules should tell you something.

You have to do your due diligence when shopping for a MA plan, though. They have a federal 5 star rating system, so you can check whether yours is highly rated. I selected the best rated one I could for my area. As SoHy said, they also come with vision, hearing, dental and Part D. Plus, preventative care benefits, like free gym membership, etc at minimal extra cost. I'm only paying an additional $35/month for all that extra stuff...well worth it to me.
Have you actually tried using those "extra benefits" yet?

Another not so much of a benefit but a grift.

I had a MA plan. To use the vision benefit there was only one provider of vision services I was allowed to use. An exam and a pair of glasses still cost me $600 out of pocket. There's a lot of places I could have gone and gotten the same services and product for much less without insurance. So much for the MA vision coverage. So just saying they have vision coverage doesn't really mean what most people would think of when hearing that.

So just saying they have X benefits doesn't really tell the whole story of actually using the "extra benefits". Tell me how is someone going to evaluate something like this happening when choosing a plan.
 
People think Advantage Plans are terrible but mine has never given me any problems and luckily I have enough money to pay for any surgical copays.
I'm now on a Medicare Advantage Plan, as of July 1. Woo hoo! I've only heard good things about it. Seems like a lot of good, extra benefits for very minimal extra cost. What are the terrible aspects of it that you are hearing?
You're putting yourself in the hands of commercial insurance company that can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit.
Really? Not according to this:

Medicare Advantage

An MA plan must provide enrollees in that plan with coverage of all services that are covered by Medicare Parts A and B, plus additional benefits beyond those covered by Medicare.​

Part C is an alternative to traditional Medicare that allows private health insurance companies to provide Medicare benefits. The private health plans are known as Medicare Advantage plans and are regulated and reimbursed by the federal government.
Per Google AI
Hospitals and medical groups nationwide are increasingly dropping Medicare Advantage (MA) plans, citing excessive claim denials, burdensome prior authorization requirements, and low reimbursement rates. Notable systems, such as Scripps Health in California and others across the country, have opted out of these plans.
Also

Your link does not support your statement that they "can deny paying for your care for any reason it sees fit". In fact, it supports what I said about them being required to follow the rules established by Medicare. It does indicate a small percentage (13%) were not valid denials, though:

The Office of the Inspector General reached a similar conclusion, finding that 13% of Medicare Advantage coverage denials met original Medicare criteria. In response to these findings, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a final rule clarifying that Medicare Advantage coverage may not be more restrictive than original Medicare. In response to these findings, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a final rule clarifying that Medicare Advantage coverage may not be more restrictive than original Medicare.
That Medicare had to step in and make the insurers follow the rules should tell you something.

You have to do your due diligence when shopping for a MA plan, though. They have a federal 5 star rating system, so you can check whether yours is highly rated. I selected the best rated one I could for my area. As SoHy said, they also come with vision, hearing, dental and Part D. Plus, preventative care benefits, like free gym membership, etc at minimal extra cost. I'm only paying an additional $35/month for all that extra stuff...well worth it to me.
Have you actually tried using those "extra benefits" yet?

Another not so much of a benefit but a grift.

I had a MA plan. To use the vision benefit there was only one provider of vision services I was allowed to use. An exam and a pair of glasses still cost me $600 out of pocket. There's a lot of places I could have gone and gotten the same services and product for much less without insurance. So much for the MA vision coverage. So just saying they have vision coverage doesn't really mean what most people would think of when hearing that.

So just saying they have X benefits doesn't really tell the whole story of actually using the "extra benefits". Tell me how is someone going to evaluate something like this happening when choosing a plan.
I've used the extra benefits without any problems and I've never had anything denied. I've had copays for my surgeries, but they were affordable for me. Advantage Plans do vary, just like supplements and Part D drug plans. The AP I have now is the only one that covers my only expensive drug. I'm not telling anyone else what to do. I'm just saying that the Advantage Plans are inexpensive, cover most things that Medicare does and work for most people. I had two former patients who switched to Advantage Plans because they could no longer afford the traditional Medicare supplements and drug plans You don't want one, then don't get one. If you can easily afford the supplements and drug plans, that's great, but most older adults can't. I already mentioned the woman in her 80s who had to work to afford her supplement. Plus you can change your Advantage Plan during many or most parts of the year. My agent frequently asks if we are happy with our plan. Can we stop arguing now and move on to the original purpose of this thread?

For example, I think during to the most recent charge that Platner needs to step down due to the most recent charge of sexual assault. I read about the details this morning. The woman said that Platner was so drunk that he didn't remember what had happened the night before. The thing I don't understand is why, since he immediately feel asleep after sex, why didn't she call the police and report the rape. That's what I would have done. He needs to step down by July 14th or it will be impossible to replace him. The victim said that she agrees with all of his politics and she's not telling people who do vote for.

One more crazy thing. Despite him not stepping down as of yet, the Democrats are arguing about who should replace him, a progressive or a moderate. Considering that we have a president who is a felon and considering that over 20 women have said he sexually assaulted them, and one won a civil suit for his sexual assault, and he is likely involved in the Epstein mess, maybe Platnar isn't that bad of a candidate. I'm not saying he shouldn't be replaced. I'm just saying that he's certainly not as awful as the president.
Still, I do hope he steps down and is replaced by a better candidate, who doesn't have a lot of baggage.
 
I made an appointment today for a dental exam. I have to be clear of any infections at least two weeks before my TAVR.
The receptionist said I had great insurance. The evil United Health care. A $3000 voucher I think should cover it. She seemed almost gleeful.
Maybe they will charge the max.
 
The White House
@WhiteHouse
FREEDOM FUEL HAS ARRIVED. ⛽️🇺🇸

The FIRST Freedom Fuel Network gas station has LANDED in Philadelphia, lowering the price at the pump to $3.47 for our 47th President.

President Trump is leading the charge to lower gas prices this summer - putting more money in your pocket. 🔥
Is Trump now a commie?
 
‘Freedom Fuel’ Gas Station Linked to Trump Says Analyst - Trump campaigned on $2 gas, now brags about $3.47 gas marketing stunt

President Donald Trump’s “Freedom Fuel Network” gas discount announcement appears to involve a newly registered entity created shortly before the promotion, rather than an established gas station chain with a long public history.

According to GasBuddy analyst Patrick De Haan, the “Freedom Fuel Network” was registered on June 23, 2026, to Corporation Trust Company, a registered agent that has previously been used by Trump-related entities.

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I made an appointment today for a dental exam. I have to be clear of any infections at least two weeks before my TAVR.
The receptionist said I had great insurance. The evil United Health care. A $3000 voucher I think should cover it. She seemed almost gleeful.
Maybe they will charge the max.
Paying out of pocket runs about 50% over what a dental insurer pays out, for needed care. I've never bothered with dental insurance. For what I would pay monthly for the insurance, at best it's a break even scenario. But in my mind, it's one less pain in the ass corporate entity to deal with.

I guess this is a bit off topic as the left have no teeth.
 
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