Houthis turn pirate

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yes, his answer is Holocaust 2.0. Everyone that is tired of the suffering are all Holocaust 2.0.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Yes, his answer is Holocaust 2.0. Everyone that is tired of the suffering are all Holocaust 2.0.

Because your side keeps seeking "solutions" that result in genocide.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yes, his answer is Holocaust 2.0. Everyone that is tired of the suffering are all Holocaust 2.0.

Because your side keeps seeking "solutions" that result in genocide.

Exactly we all love Holocaust 2.0.

Also, I wasn't aware I had a side. Who is bringing donuts to our Holocaust 2.0 fan club meeting?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Yes, his answer is Holocaust 2.0. Everyone that is tired of the suffering are all Holocaust 2.0.

Because your side keeps seeking "solutions" that result in genocide.

Exactly we all love Holocaust 2.0.

Also, I wasn't aware I had a side. Who is bringing donuts to our Holocaust 2.0 fan club meeting?

You sure keep asking for it. Dead Jews (because they didn't defend themselves) are always superior to dead Palestinians (caught in the conflict.)

 

[laughing dog]

Yes, his answer is Holocaust 2.0. Everyone that is tired of the suffering are all Holocaust 2.0.

Because your side keeps seeking "solutions" that result in genocide.

Exactly we all love Holocaust 2.0.

Also, I wasn't aware I had a side. Who is bringing donuts to our Holocaust 2.0 fan club meeting?

You sure keep asking for it. Dead Jews (because they didn't defend themselves) are always superior to dead Palestinians (caught in the conflict.)

Where do you get these fantastically slanderous straw men?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Yes, his answer is Holocaust 2.0. Everyone that is tired of the suffering are all Holocaust 2.0.

Because your side keeps seeking "solutions" that result in genocide.

Exactly we all love Holocaust 2.0.

Also, I wasn't aware I had a side. Who is bringing donuts to our Holocaust 2.0 fan club meeting?

You sure keep asking for it. Dead Jews (because they didn't defend themselves) are always superior to dead Palestinians (caught in the conflict.)

Where do you get these fantastically slanderous straw men?

Because you will not accept any solution that leads to dead Palestinian civilians, even though the cost is clearly dead Jews. You're not stupid, you can see what the results would be unless you're willfully blind.

 

[laughing dog]

Yes, his answer is Holocaust 2.0. Everyone that is tired of the suffering are all Holocaust 2.0.

Because your side keeps seeking "solutions" that result in genocide.

Exactly we all love Holocaust 2.0.

Also, I wasn't aware I had a side. Who is bringing donuts to our Holocaust 2.0 fan club meeting?

You sure keep asking for it. Dead Jews (because they didn't defend themselves) are always superior to dead Palestinians (caught in the conflict.)

Where do you get these fantastically slanderous straw men?

Because you will not accept any solution that leads to dead Palestinian civilians, even though the cost is clearly dead Jews. You're not stupid, you can see what the results would be unless you're willfully blind.

Responding with another fantastically slanderous straw man does not answer the asked question.

When Israel follows your preferred policies, the result is dead Jews but magnitudes more dead Palestinians.

Neither JH or I embrace your estimate of the necessary death and destruction of Palestinians.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Because you will not accept any solution that leads to dead Palestinian civilians, even though the cost is clearly dead Jews. You're not stupid, you can see what the results would be unless you're willfully blind.

Responding with another fantastically slanderous straw man does not answer the asked question.

When Israel follows your preferred policies, the result is dead Jews but magnitudes more dead Palestinians.

Neither JH or I embrace your estimate of the necessary death and destruction of Palestinians.

You can live in the river if you want. I'm going to address this in the other thread.

 

[lpetrich]

US Army officer  Billy Mitchell would chuckle at what the Houthi militia has been able to do, along with what the Ukrainian armed forces have been able to do.

He was a champion of military aviation, and he argued that it made big-gun ships obsolete, because they are big and vulnerable and not very well-adapted to fighting back. For half a millennium, navies have been mounting big guns on their ships, and that trend reached its height a century ago. He pissed off a lot of his fellow military commanders, and they eventually court-martialed him for insubordination.

Between WWI and WWII, navies hedged their bets by building both battleships and aircraft carriers, and in WWII, battleships proved to have much less utility than aircraft carriers. Only one was built after that war, and existing ones were only used for shore bombardment, as some were in WWII. There are still plenty of ships in service with plenty of guns, but they are relatively small and fast.

Now even those ships may be vulnerable.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Between WWI and WWII, navies hedged their bets by building both battleships and aircraft carriers, and in WWII, battleships proved to have much less utility than aircraft carriers. Only one was built after that war, and existing ones were only used for shore bombardment, as some were in WWII. There are still plenty of ships in service with plenty of guns, but they are relatively small and fast.

Now even those ships may be vulnerable.

What ships have plenty of guns??

I didn't try looking up every ship, just took the general weapons fit of US Navy cruiser.

Two 5" guns, two Phalanx point defense guns.

Contrast that with the first WWII cruiser whose details I find: 10x 6" guns, 6x 4" guns, 8x 40mm, 8x 20mm and 8 heavy machine guns.

I suspect the two 5" guns pack more punch than all of the big guns on the WWII cruiser, but there is a major lack at the small end of the range. 24 defensive guns on the WWII cruiser, 2 on the modern one--and the magazine depth is terrible. They have about 20 seconds of fire time each. If drones are engaged as they enter effective range the guns can kill at most 40 drones (flight time of the rounds will be pretty close to 1 second)--and that's assuming the first rounds are on target and the system can immediately register a kill. I consider the latter very unlikely--it's not a video game where a dead enemy instantly vanishes.

 

[lpetrich]

 Red Sea crisis and  Timeline of the Red Sea crisis - the Houthi militia is still attacking ships.

They have not only missiles and  Unmanned aerial vehicle - drone airplanes, but also  Unmanned surface vehicle - drone boats. Ukraine also has drone boats, I must note.

Ship attacked by Yemen's Houthi rebels was full of grain bound for Iran, the group's main benefactor | AP News - " However, as shipping through that artery has dropped during the months of attacks, the rebels have struck vessels associated with Iran, as well as Tehran’s economic lifelines of China and Russia."

Attacks by Yemen's Houthi rebels strike ships in the Red Sea | AP News - "The Houthis maintain that their attacks target ships linked to Israel, the United States or Britain, as part of the rebels’ support for the militant group Hamas in its war against Israel. However, many of the ships attacked have little or no connection to the war — including some bound for Iran, which backs the Houthis."

Yemen's Houthis target three vessels, including oil tanker, in Red, Mediterranean seas | Reuters

Houthis damage cargo ship in Gulf of Aden as it steps up attacks | Reuters

VIDEO: Yemeni army releases footage of attacking ship - Mehr News Agency - oil tanker Chios Lion, reportedly on its way to Israel

VIDEO: Watch Yemeni drone operation on Tel Aviv - Mehr News Agency - "Yemeni armed forces announced an operation against Tel Aviv as a powerful explosion hit an area near a US consular facility amid the failure of Israeli air defenses to intercept the drone."

Mehr News Agency - based in Iran

 

[ZiprHead]

I'm interested in what Jason Harvestdancer and RVonse think of the situation.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

 Red Sea crisis and  Timeline of the Red Sea crisis - the Houthi militia is still attacking ships.

They have not only missiles and  Unmanned aerial vehicle - drone airplanes, but also  Unmanned surface vehicle - drone boats. Ukraine also has drone boats, I must note.

Ship attacked by Yemen's Houthi rebels was full of grain bound for Iran, the group's main benefactor | AP News - " However, as shipping through that artery has dropped during the months of attacks, the rebels have struck vessels associated with Iran, as well as Tehran’s economic lifelines of China and Russia."

I'm surprised Iran doesn't keep them on a shorter leash.

 

[lpetrich]

Tel Aviv, Israel: Yemen’s Houthis claim deadly drone attack near US Embassy branch office | CNN

In a televised briefing on Friday, Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesman Daniel Hagari said that the military suspects the drone was an Iranian-made Samad-3 model, launched from Yemen, which had been upgraded to extend its range.

A second drone was intercepted outside of Israeli territory to the east at the same time as the attack, he said, adding that Israel is now upgrading its air defenses and increasing aerial patrols of its borders.

An Israeli military official said the drone was detected by an Israeli aerial defense system, but not intercepted due to “human error.” It was armed with a warhead and crashed into an apartment building, the official added, without providing further details of the device’s payload.

Israeli airstrikes target Yemen’s Houthis day after deadly drone attack in Tel Aviv | CNN

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said its fighter jets struck “military targets of the Houthi terrorist regime” in the area of Yemen’s Hodeidah Port on Saturday in what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said was a direct response to the death of a 50-year-old Israeli in a Houthi drone attack on Tel Aviv Friday.

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The Houthi-run Al Masirah TV said the Israeli strikes targeted oil facilities in the port on Yemen’s west coast, killing at least three people and injuring 87, most of them with “severe burns.”

Houthi spokesperson Mohammed Abdulsalam said the strikes had also hit civilian targets and a power station. He slammed what he said was “brutal Israeli aggression” aimed at increasing the “suffering of the people of Yemen” and pressuring it to stop its support of Gaza.

They said that they would be responding.

Israeli Prime Minister

Netanyahu said in a statement on Saturday that Hodeidah was “not an innocent port.”

“It was used for military purposes, it was used as an entry point for deadly weapons supplied to the Houthis by Iran,” Netanyahu said, adding that Hodeidah had also been used to attack international shipping in the Red Sea.

 

[lpetrich]

Eilat Port declares bankruptcy: What awaits the Occupying state? – Middle East Monitor

The Israeli port of Eilat officially declared its bankruptcy, after eight months of complete paralysis of commercial activity and its cessation of receiving ships and containers, especially coming from the Asian countries’ markets, carrying with them the needs of the economy and its industrial sector. This includes raw materials, intermediate goods, production inputs, machinery and equipment, crude oil and fuel, wheat, food, cars and other market needs.

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According to the World Cargo website that reports global shipping news, the port of Eilat has officially declared bankruptcy due to the lack of commercial activity. According to data provided by the port’s CEO, Gideon Gilbert, the port has not witnessed any activity or revenues during the past eight months, and attacks by Yemeni forces in the Red Sea caused a decline in shipping traffic by 85 per cent. This sharp decline led to heavy losses for the port, which forced it to request financial aid from the Israeli government to cover its expenses and avoid permanent closure.

Port of Eilat declares bankruptcy ‣ WorldCargo News

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Yemen's Houthi rebels hijack cargo ship in Red Sea

I was telling you for years

I've been telling you for years I don't care about the opinions of people who say I've been telling you for years.

 

[lpetrich]

I concede that I was reluctant to cite a source that called Israel an "Occupying state". So I also linked to that WorldCargo News article, even though its page is registration-walled.

 

[Derec]

Things are heating up again with the Houthis.

Fresh US strikes in Yemen with 53 now dead, Houthis say

Houthi militia unsuccessfully retaliates after it said U.S. strikes on Yemen killed 53


Those are some mad secondary explosions on that overhead footage.