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How long before Europeans resent refugees?

It's just bullshit though. All of it. Sweden has a higher rape statistic because we count more things as rape than other countries. It's just playing with statistics.

So his conclusions are moot. Real rape in Sweden hasn't gone up. We're still a pleasantly crime free and safe country. We're just not trying to tidy up the statistics to hide what crime we do have.

For most people I am sure it is a safe country as you said
I am sure that what you say is right but what is counted as rape in Sweden which others do not count it as rape?

I don't know all the details but the basic problem is that many things we call "sexual assault" they call "rape". Remember the case that made the news--the act was sex without a condom when she only consented to sex with a condom. That's "rape" under their laws. It's a language issue, their term is broader.
 
Mass migration will happen anyway, you silly man, and no way will the system work without it. The question is whether you react like a mug or help the immigrants join your labour organisations to fight the crooks.

It would not happen so much if sensible border restrictions were in place. Immigrants who are legally in European countries are welcome to join any labour union and enjoy full human rights once they get a work visa. However we have a right to refuse economic migrants which can also contribute to the brain drains of their own countries

Cheap workers will always be brought in, and always have been. All would be well if they would give you the moon, hey?
 
Because that's what capitalism requires of us all, you silly person - we are to hate one another to keep down wages.


Hardly a plot - a central necessity, if we are to be distracted from the way they rob us at every turn.

but how the heck are wages supposed to go UP, if there's thousands more people applying for the same job, you know as happens with mass immigration? which the left loves of course
 
Mass migration will happen anyway, you silly man, and no way will the system work without it. The question is whether you react like a mug or help the immigrants join your labour organisations to fight the crooks.

Aren't you the guy who wants to break the system, but now you're saying that we must help it otherwise it won't work - so are you sure you're not really just another lib capitalist who's read too much Marx?:rolleyes:
 
I don't know all the details but the basic problem is that many things we call "sexual assault" they call "rape". Remember the case that made the news--the act was sex without a condom when she only consented to sex with a condom. That's "rape" under their laws. It's a language issue, their term is broader.

sounds kinda dumb to me, and is what happens when you let the femnazi take over
 
A lot of this is about numbers, because before the EU free for all, and lib love fest with the fakeugees, a stricter limit was put on economic migrants, as most countries still do - you know, visas etc.....migration can easily be limited
 
It would not happen so much if sensible border restrictions were in place. Immigrants who are legally in European countries are welcome to join any labour union and enjoy full human rights once they get a work visa. However we have a right to refuse economic migrants which can also contribute to the brain drains of their own countries

Cheap workers will always be brought in, and always have been. All would be well if they would give you the moon, hey?

It can be made more difficult like other countries do. For example the UAE. All foreign workers must have contracts and borders are thoroughly checked both in and out. Hong Kong passed laws to ensure all foreign workers are paid a minimum which matches local salaries. The illegal workforce will exist but in reduced proportions.
 
Because that's what capitalism requires of us all, you silly person - we are to hate one another to keep down wages.


Hardly a plot - a central necessity, if we are to be distracted from the way they rob us at every turn.

but how the heck are wages supposed to go UP, if there's thousands more people applying for the same job, you know as happens with mass immigration? which the left loves of course
Number of jobs is not static. More people means more consumption which means more jobs available. I think that immigrants or refugees who don't get a job or only work illegally are a bigger problem than those who "take our jobs".
 
but how the heck are wages supposed to go UP, if there's thousands more people applying for the same job, you know as happens with mass immigration? which the left loves of course
Number of jobs is not static. More people means more consumption which means more jobs available. I think that immigrants or refugees who don't get a job or only work illegally are a bigger problem than those who "take our jobs".

That doesn't mean it will create a better economy but a bigger economy with more shortages of housing, low wages because illegal workers are good business for low jobs such as fruit picking, restaurant work, and casual work.
 
I don't know all the details but the basic problem is that many things we call "sexual assault" they call "rape". Remember the case that made the news--the act was sex without a condom when she only consented to sex with a condom. That's "rape" under their laws. It's a language issue, their term is broader.

sounds kinda dumb to me, and is what happens when you let the femnazi take over

This will most likely be the only time I agree with you. Let's celebrate
 
I don't know all the details but the basic problem is that many things we call "sexual assault" they call "rape". Remember the case that made the news--the act was sex without a condom when she only consented to sex with a condom. That's "rape" under their laws. It's a language issue, their term is broader.

sounds kinda dumb to me, and is what happens when you let the femnazi take over

No, it sounds like language differences.
 
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Mass migration will happen anyway, you silly man,

NO it won't, but of course it will do so if you allow it to.

Europe has already been shamed and emasculated to not care about its own existence. Hence, iolo is right, in Western Europe at least, mass migration cannot be stopped. And how much better Western Europe will be for it!

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loPXpoRrcP0[/YOUTUBE]
 
but how the heck are wages supposed to go UP, if there's thousands more people applying for the same job, you know as happens with mass immigration? which the left loves of course
Number of jobs is not static. More people means more consumption which means more jobs available. I think that immigrants or refugees who don't get a job or only work illegally are a bigger problem than those who "take our jobs".

This paper brings a new perspective to the analysis of the Mariel supply shock, revisiting the question and the data armed with the accumulated insights from the vast literature on the economic impact of immigration. A crucial lesson from this literature is that any credible attempt to measure the wage impact of immigration must carefully match the skills of the immigrants with those of the pre-existing workers. The Marielitos were disproportionately low-skill; at least 60 percent were high school dropouts. A reappraisal of the Mariel evidence, specifically examining the evolution of wages in the low-skill group most likely to be affected, quickly overturns the finding that Mariel did not affect Miami’s wage structure. The absolute wage of high school dropouts in Miami dropped dramatically, as did the wage of high school dropouts relative to that of either high school graduates or college graduates. The drop in the relative wage of the least educated Miamians was substantial (10 to 30 percent), implying an elasticity of wages with respect to the number of workers between -0.5 and -1.5. The analysis also documents the sensitivity of the estimated wage impact to the choice of a placebo. The measured impact is much smaller when the placebo consists of cities where pre-Mariel employment growth was weak relative to Miami.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/publications/working%20papers/Mariel2015.pdf

Mass migration of low-skilled labor is pretty disastrous for indigenous workers at the same level. But they're just a bunch of ignorant hoi polloi. The elites know what is best for them.
 
Let's see. Now you've got all those different countries who imagine themselves in some kind of union but whose leaders all hold reservations against and fears of people of non-European origins to differing degrees and with differing willingness to cooperate either for or against these refugees. How soon you ask. They didn't have to start coming for those reservations and resentments to begin. It was resentment of these fractions of the ME and African communities in the first place that led to their deployment of military means in the countries of origin. It was the these deployments and applications of kinetic force in these countries that destabilized them and led to the refugees in the first place. It is not just a neat little matter of U.S. exceptionalism or fanatical lunatic ME Jihadism. Each of these European nations in the Union has a deep and abiding residue in their own special case for feeling exceptional...and that will not go anway anytime soon. What does however appear to be the case is a number of national leaders in the Union have developed a policy that condemns the use of jet fighters, drones, battle ships and invasion and destruction of foreign countries' infrastructure in the name of that resentment. In other words, in part of Europe cooler and more humanistic heads are prevailing. Unfortunately, we still have players with lots of rockets and bombs and desire to make more for fun and profit who have not abandoned sheer brutality on a grand scale as a means to destroy their "enemies" even though many of these enemies are prepared to live in peace with about anybody...even a kill crazed black christian presidents from my homeland who runs a blacklist and a fleet of drones. He seems to be in lock step with Netanyahu, Hollande, and whatever crazy Brit is in charge at any time. He know who butters his personal bread and is prepared to keep that going no matter how many mistaken drone strikes he may make...he just keeps a trying. Bless him. That is so Christian of him!;)
 
Number of jobs is not static. More people means more consumption which means more jobs available. .

Ok then, so why not send all the immigrants out to the Thirld World to boost their economies then, or how about Greece - why don't the insects stay there and drive the Greek rennaisance?:rolleyes:
 
Number of jobs is not static. More people means more consumption which means more jobs available. I think that immigrants or refugees who don't get a job or only work illegally are a bigger problem than those who "take our jobs".
Just spreading the butter thinner and thinner! By the way, that rep I gave you was meant to be red

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This will most likely be the only time I agree with you. Let's celebrate

ok, sure!:) , and what's the deal with the North Korea av?
 
What is the skill level of the migrants?
Do the host countries need low-skilled jobs or high-skilled jobs?
Above all how many jobs in various categories are there in the host country for which the host population cannot supply workers? Because the tide of people just keep coming and small countries simply cannot cope.
 
Number of jobs is not static. More people means more consumption which means more jobs available. I think that immigrants or refugees who don't get a job or only work illegally are a bigger problem than those who "take our jobs".

That doesn't mean it will create a better economy but a bigger economy with more shortages of housing, low wages because illegal workers are good business for low jobs such as fruit picking, restaurant work, and casual work.
Illegal workers are of course a problem, but assuming everyone follows the same rules that shouldn't be a problem.
 
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