How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Bronzeage]

The result is industry that can't produce and an army that can't fight.

OK, cool, did NATO secretary lie when he said "Russia produce more 4 times more weapons than the whole West"

So where is it? Russia is buying artillery shells from North Korea and tactical golf carts from China and you expect anyone to believe Russia can produce weapons? Russia is militarily bankrupt. Putin sent a poorly trained and poorly equipped army into Ukraine because that's all he had to show for after 20 years of stealing from the Russian people.

I have to give you credit for persistence, but no one believes anything you say.

In continuing to defend such an indefensible position, I think he went from persistence to irrationality many months ago. The only alternative I see is there is some incentive for him to continue on with this charade. In this, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

His strongest argument to date (from what I've read) is the West hasn't bent over backwards for us.

It's just a job. It's only irrational if he believes the things he posts here. Unlike most Russians, he has access to western information, so he can see the same videos of burning Russian tanks(back when Russia had tanks to burn) and the casualty statistics. He knows that more than a million Russian fathers, brothers and sons are never going to come back to their families.

Beyond that, there's no reason to think he is only one person. It could be a tag team effort.

 

[barbos]

I have to give you credit for persistence, but no one believes anything you say.

Nobody in Russia believes anything your governments and media say.

It doesn't matter what people in Russia believe. They have no power or influence over their own lives.

Bullshit, it's not even true in US.
And if it was true, so what? how does that hurt evil dictator Putin that they agree with him?

 

[barbos]

Beyond that, there's no reason to think he is only one person. It could be a tag team effort.

Conspiracy theorist?

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile Zaluzhny is on Vogue (again?)
Some pundits interpret that as a scheme to remove Elensky

 

[Harry Bosch]

Meanwhile Zaluzhny is on Vogue (again?)
Some pundits interpret that as a scheme to remove Elensky

?? Because he appeared in a magazine?! That's crazy. And it's another reason why Russian imperialism must stop. Zaluzhny is a politic rival. In a democratic system, political rivals are fine. Turnover is fine. Necessary. Zaluzhny is very popular because he stopped the Russians in Kyiv and forced them into retreat with their tail between legs. President Z is popular also. But maybe he'll lose in the future. Someday. Who knows when. That's how democracies work. It's healthy. He won't be thrown out of a 20 storey building similar to how Russian rivals are treated in Russia.

 

[barbos]

?? Because he appeared in a magazine?! That's crazy.

Yes and no, it's not crazy.

 

[barbos]

And it's another reason why Russian imperialism must stop. Zaluzhny is a politic rival. In a democratic system, political rivals are fine.

Sure, as long as Great Britain approves these political rivals.

 

[barbos]

Zaluzhny is very popular because he stopped the Russians in Kyiv and forced them into retreat with their tail between legs.

Zaluzhny is no longer popular that's why MI6 ordered him to take a photo-session.
And no, he did not stop anyone. Russian army left position when they had no man power to hold them,
Now we have man power to hold everything we take.

Meanwhile Kiev Bob Elensky refused to admit the loss of Chasov Yahr, the hometown of Russian Sinatra Joseph Kobzon.

 

[barbos]

Comments are brutal:

 

[barbos]

Comments are brutal:

Must be these famous russian trolls, paid by Putin, right?

 

[Harry Bosch]

Zaluzhny is very popular because he stopped the Russians in Kyiv and forced them into retreat with their tail between legs.

Zaluzhny is no longer popular that's why MI6 ordered him to take a photo-session.
And no, he did not stop anyone. Russian army left position when they had no man power to hold them,
Now we have man power to hold everything we take.

Meanwhile Kiev Bob Elensky refused to admit the loss of Chasov Yahr, the hometown of Russian Sinatra Joseph Kobzon.

For a supposed expert, you don't have very good understanding about Ukraine. Not sure about Kiev. But Zaluzhny was the general that stopped the Russians from taking Kyiv and sending the Russians home to Moma. Secondly, a recent survey found that Zaluzhny polled higher than your hero, President Z. He's the most popular politician in Ukraine today.

 

[barbos]

Zaluzhny is very popular because he stopped the Russians in Kyiv and forced them into retreat with their tail between legs.

Zaluzhny is no longer popular that's why MI6 ordered him to take a photo-session.
And no, he did not stop anyone. Russian army left position when they had no man power to hold them,
Now we have man power to hold everything we take.

Meanwhile Kiev Bob Elensky refused to admit the loss of Chasov Yahr, the hometown of Russian Sinatra Joseph Kobzon.

For a supposed expert, you don't have very good understanding about Ukraine. Not sure about Kiev. But Zaluzhny was the general that stopped the Russians from taking Kyiv and sending the Russians home to Moma. Secondly, a recent survey found that Zaluzhny polled higher than your hero, President Z. He's the most popular politician in Ukraine today.

Again, no. He did not stop anyone.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Zaluzhny is very popular because he stopped the Russians in Kyiv and forced them into retreat with their tail between legs.

Zaluzhny is no longer popular that's why MI6 ordered him to take a photo-session.
And no, he did not stop anyone. Russian army left position when they had no man power to hold them,
Now we have man power to hold everything we take.

Meanwhile Kiev Bob Elensky refused to admit the loss of Chasov Yahr, the hometown of Russian Sinatra Joseph Kobzon.

For a supposed expert, you don't have very good understanding about Ukraine. Not sure about Kiev. But Zaluzhny was the general that stopped the Russians from taking Kyiv and sending the Russians home to Moma. Secondly, a recent survey found that Zaluzhny polled higher than your hero, President Z. He's the most popular politician in Ukraine today.

Again, no. He did not stop anyone.

Yea, now I'm starting to think that you really don't understand the Ukranian - Russia war. Read this link:

Battle of Kyiv (2022) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

To help you more, Kyiv is the capital of Ukraine.

 

[barbos]

Yea, now I'm starting to think that you really don't understand the Ukranian - Russia war. Read this link:

Nope, it's you. And you are deluded.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Has it been more than 24 hours since January 20, 2025?

If so, why is the war still going on?

Aaaaaany way, I watched a mini documentary on the initial stages of this war last night. It was interesting to see how close Russia came to taking Ukraine in just a few hours by attempting to take Hostomel (sp?) airport. The plan was to take the airport via helicopters filled with air assault troops so they could begin landing transport planes loaded with other troops and equipment. However Ukraine was able to delay them long enough for reinforcements to arrive, which trapped the Russians on the ground because then they couldn't land those transport planes.

Two hours of delay made all the difference.

 

[barbos]

It's a circus in Ukraine. Green Goblin says he had nothing to do with anti-anti-corruption law he signed, he was too busy with .... war. And parliament members say he ordered them to vote for it. And now they voted to cancel the law they just passed.
All the while anti-corruption bureau which is manned and funded by EU promise to go after..... people who voted for it.
Complete mess.

 

[barbos]

To help you more, Kyiv is the capital of Ukraine.

Don't torture yourself trying to pronounce it in "ukrainian" Soon it will be its original name - "Kiev"

 

[Politesse]

To help you more, Kyiv is the capital of Ukraine.

Don't torture yourself trying to pronounce it in "ukrainian" Soon it will be its original name - "Kiev"

Are you a child?

 

[barbos]

To help you more, Kyiv is the capital of Ukraine.

Don't torture yourself trying to pronounce it in "ukrainian" Soon it will be its original name - "Kiev"

Are you a child?

Not me, people who keep insisting on "Kyiv". I use standard russian spelling and pronunciation.

 

[ZiprHead]

It's a circus in Ukraine. Green Goblin says he had nothing to do with anti-anti-corruption law he signed, he was too busy with .... war. And parliament members say he ordered them to vote for it. And now they voted to cancel the law they just passed.
All the while anti-corruption bureau which is manned and funded by EU promise to go after..... people who voted for it.
Complete mess.

When you post this sort of shit without any citation do you expect us to actually take it seriously?