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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

If Russia and "the West" were actually warring, the death and destruction would be magnitudes worse.
It not too late for it to get orders of magnitude worse - for Russia.
Ukraine has already weathered the worst that Russia can deal out.
 
Your millitary sucks. You had spent 20 years in Afghaistan and then ran away.
And your military sucks twice as bad. You had spent 10 years in Afghanistan and then ran away.

Of course that was back in the Soviet era, before the Russian military collapsed into the pathetic remnant we saw get utterly humiliated by Ukraine in 2022.
 
We are fighting collective West there and we are winning.
You are fighting a bunch of Ukrainian farm boys armed with some hand-me-down weapons systems that the "collective West" considers obsolete, and you are stuck in a pathetic and costly stalemate you can't break.

You are winning nothing.
 
And how’s that coming? Are you significantly closer? Or are you prepared to take 50+ years and millions of casualties? Cause let’s face it. Your military sucks.
Says who? Your millitary sucks. You had spent 20 years in Afghaistan and then ran away.
And these people did not have Starlink and hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons
We are fighting collective West there and we are winning.
Funny, because subs and an air force aren't involved in this conflict.

The delusion is insane. If Russia and "the West" were actually warring, the death and destruction would be magnitudes worse. Also, it probably would have ended a couple years ago.
With Washington, NY, Chicago, LA, London. Paris, Berlin being nuclear wasteland.
So that's why neocon scum has to use the next best thing which has a chance - proxy war.
So delusion is yours. And you are losing and going to lose. Your own propaganda admits that when they started with "Fuck the peace negotiations, We are going to win on the battlefield" and ended up with "Putin is not interested in peace".
 
And your military sucks twice as bad. You had spent 10 years in Afghanistan and then ran away.
Actually, we left orderly, due to change in internal and external politics, regime we left was able to
fend off CIA "freedom" fighters for a few years. Compare with your leaving where Taliban took over even before you left.
Don't forget your piece of shit Raygun and Carter were arming these terrorists, another proxy war
Wheres you were fighting Taliban who was on their own.
US army has not fought a peer competitor since WW2. You prefer rebels with AK47
 
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Video of the "soldiers" Kiev regime returned in the 1000 for 1000 exchange they agreed recently in Istanbul. Speaking about who actually kidnaps people.
 
And your military sucks twice as bad. You had spent 10 years in Afghanistan and then ran away.
Actually, we left orderly, due to change in internal and external politics, regime we left was able to
fend off CIA "freedom" fighters for a few years.
🤣
Compare with your leaving where Taliban took over even before you left.
Don't forget your piece of shit Raygun and Carter were arming these terrorists, another proxy war
Wheres you were fighting Taliban who was on their own.
US army has not fought a peer competitor since WW2. You prefer rebels with AK47
I am not now, nor have I ever been, an American. Who the US Army prefers to fight is of little interest to me, and is certainly not something over which I have one iota of influence.
 
And your military sucks twice as bad. You had spent 10 years in Afghanistan and then ran away.
Actually, we left orderly, due to change in internal and external politics, regime we left was able to
fend off CIA "freedom" fighters for a few years.
🤣
Compare with your leaving where Taliban took over even before you left.
Don't forget your piece of shit Raygun and Carter were arming these terrorists, another proxy war
Wheres you were fighting Taliban who was on their own.
US army has not fought a peer competitor since WW2. You prefer rebels with AK47
I am not now, nor have I ever been, an American. Who the US Army prefers to fight is of little interest to me, and is certainly not something over which I have one iota of influence.
Australia is America's bitch.
You fought in Vietnam (illegal War of agression). You fought in Afghanistan and Iraq.
You fight everywhere where Washington tells you.
 
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Aww, sad... Russia doesn't have a bitch. They have a few trafficed prostitutes in the form of national leaders but they are still prostitutes.
 
And how’s that coming? Are you significantly closer? Or are you prepared to take 50+ years and millions of casualties? Cause let’s face it. Your military sucks.
Says who? Your millitary sucks. You had spent 20 years in Afghaistan and then ran away.
And these people did not have Starlink and hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons
We are fighting collective West there and we are winning.
Funny, because subs and an air force aren't involved in this conflict.
Ostensibly, subs were involved—we just hadn’t started calling them that yet.

Speaking of subs:
Failure to Launch
Public executions to follow.
Lil Kim says all repairs will be completed by the end of June.
North Korean officials are confident the damage is minimal, which reads like a post by Yu-no Hoo.
How are they even going to right the thing? I'd think they'd have to pull it clear into the water, at which point, it may sink altogether.
I don't know. If the bow stayed put in its launch cradle while the rest of the ship levered out into the water, the keel might be tweaked up forward. Underway, the ship may do nothing but cruise in large circles. :) Or with a little rudder to compensate, it may just go dog tracking through the ocean.
 
So Trump declared that US would stop beating countries into submission "democracy".
Nice, I wonder who he spoke to to get this Idea and and who will be the next to straighten him up
 

So Trump was going to end the conflict immediately. I know people who said he could do it because after he’s such a “strong” leader. Putin would never have invaded had Trump been president.

Then he was going to end it with a phone call to Putin. Well, that didn’t work, and we hear almost nothing from the press or even the democrats over this. Putin ignores Trump and unleashes one of the worse raids on Ukraine in response. What does Trump do? Calls Putin crazy. Oh that will work. :rolleyesa:

Thus we get to today’s headlines and for once I actually agree with Putin. Trump is an over emotional windbag who is useless as president.
 
So Trump was going to end the conflict immediately. I know people who said he could do it because after he’s such a “strong” leader. Putin would never have invaded had Trump been president.
I hope those people are impressed with the aplomb and honesty of both of those dignified leaders. Diplomacy by namecalling? Bring it on! Putin is in trouble; nobody can call people names like President Trump.
 

So Trump was going to end the conflict immediately. I know people who said he could do it because after he’s such a “strong” leader. Putin would never have invaded had Trump been president.

Then he was going to end it with a phone call to Putin. Well, that didn’t work, and we hear almost nothing from the press or even the democrats over this. Putin ignores Trump and unleashes one of the worse raids on Ukraine in response. What does Trump do? Calls Putin crazy. Oh that will work. :rolleyesa:

Thus we get to today’s headlines and for once I actually agree with Putin. Trump is an over emotional windbag who is useless as president.
Trump sent a real estate buddy to Russia to do the negotiations. This is what happens when incompetents hires incompetents.

I bet he wasn't given any "cards" to use too.
 
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Trump should have agreed on ridiculously generous russian terms.
He has not. Special Military Operation continues.

And why are you so anti-war? You are winning, aren't you?

 
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Trump should have agreed on ridiculously generous russian terms.
He has not. Special Military Operation continues.

And why are you so anti-war? You are winning, aren't you?



The Russian terms are very bad. They encourage more war and imperialism. Russia wants Ukraine to give up more land, dropping of all sanctions, normalization of the Russian land grab, no return of the children that your side kidnapped, Ukraine army to reduce to 50,000, and no more western weapons. Then in 6 months your side can invade again. I'm for peace. Your side is crazy. You have the most pro-Russian US president possible, and still can't make peace. We need to tighter sanctions.
 
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