How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[aupmanyav]

Putin is a sick rapid dog that needs to be put down.
Putin's Russia is a dictatorship where opponents are suppressed and jailed, there is no free speech, and no free press.
His constant bombardment of Ukaro9nin civilians is the act of an evil sick mind

Oh, go ahead and do that, if that is what you wish.
There are others in the US and China.
India still has a democracy. The government does not over-ride decisions of the Supreme Court and we have free press.
What else can he do when Ukraine aided by western arms bombs Russian sites?
There may come a time when he may use nukes in Ukraine and elsewhere.

 

[steve_bank]

Putin is a sick rapid dog that needs to be put down.
Putin's Russia is a dictatorship where opponents are suppressed and jailed, there is no free speech, and no free press.
His constant bombardment of Ukaro9nin civilians is the act of an evil sick mind

Oh, go ahead and do that, if that is what you wish.
There are others in the US and China.
India still has a democracy. The government does not over-ride decisions of the Supreme Court and we have free press.
What else can he do when Ukraine aided by western arms bombs Russian sites?
There may come a time when he may use nukes in Ukraine and elsewhere.

On a number of threads you try to make India relevant, I get that.

Fighting between Pakistan and India has no effect on the greater world.

Putin's provocations by violating NATO airspace can lead to catastrophic consequences which will affect the world. War leading first to Russia using tactical nuclear weapons escalating to a nuclear war.

I know something about stress. Putin in public appears to be exhibiting extreme self control when speaking. Emotionless with a stone face. At the strat I would a clip of Putin and an intelligence leader.

Putin was at a desk on a platform. He was looming down on the officer asking questions. Whent he response was not what he wanted he went into a rage screaming at the man.

Behind the scenes I expect Putin is irrational and bouncing off the walls.

The pressure must be enormous. What he thought would be an easy conquest turned into a route durng the invasion. He has to resort to North Korean tropps and barganing for weopons.

The Ruissan ecomy is gven to war production.

 

[barbos]

Putin's provocations by violating NATO airspace can lead to catastrophic consequences

What violating? Please elaborate.
Cause according to international law it was not, certainly it was not enough to shoot it down.
That is even we assume that NATO liars did not lie.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Putin is a sick rapid dog that needs to be put down.
Putin's Russia is a dictatorship where opponents are suppressed and jailed, there is no free speech, and no free press.
His constant bombardment of Ukaro9nin civilians is the act of an evil sick mind

Oh, go ahead and do that, if that is what you wish.
There are others in the US and China.
India still has a democracy. The government does not over-ride decisions of the Supreme Court and we have free press.
What else can he do when Ukraine aided by western arms bombs Russian sites?
There may come a time when he may use nukes in Ukraine and elsewhere.

Oh jesus christ! Where can I get the world's smallest violin! Russia has bombed Ukranian cities to ruble daily for 3.5 years. Now Ukraine is starting to hit Russian cities a little, and you are advocating Nukes? Holy crap. Do you honestly expect Russia to bomb the shit out of a country, and they don't get any payback? Here's an idea, how about both sides stop bombing the other. How about peace? You can't fucking expect peace when one side continues the war. (Sorry to erupt on you, but I thought your comments above were out of character and absolutely ridiculous!).

 

[steve_bank]

Putin is a sick rapid dog that needs to be put down.
Putin's Russia is a dictatorship where opponents are suppressed and jailed, there is no free speech, and no free press.
His constant bombardment of Ukaro9nin civilians is the act of an evil sick mind

Oh, go ahead and do that, if that is what you wish.
There are others in the US and China.
India still has a democracy. The government does not over-ride decisions of the Supreme Court and we have free press.
What else can he do when Ukraine aided by western arms bombs Russian sites?
There may come a time when he may use nukes in Ukraine and elsewhere.

Oh jesus christ! Where can I get the world's smallest violin! Russia has bombed Ukranian cities to ruble daily for 3.5 years. Now Ukraine is starting to hit Russian cities a little, and you are advocating Nukes? Holy crap. Do you honestly expect Russia to bomb the shit out of a country, and they don't get any payback? Here's an idea, how about both sides stop bombing the other. How about peace? You can't fucking expect peace when one side continues the war. (Sorry to erupt on you, but I thought your comments above were out of character and absolutely ridiculous!).

Harry, if you are in Seattle let me know.I 'll buy the coffee and we can commiserate.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Putin is a sick rapid dog that needs to be put down.
Putin's Russia is a dictatorship where opponents are suppressed and jailed, there is no free speech, and no free press.
His constant bombardment of Ukaro9nin civilians is the act of an evil sick mind

Oh, go ahead and do that, if that is what you wish.
There are others in the US and China.
India still has a democracy. The government does not over-ride decisions of the Supreme Court and we have free press.
What else can he do when Ukraine aided by western arms bombs Russian sites?
There may come a time when he may use nukes in Ukraine and elsewhere.

Oh jesus christ! Where can I get the world's smallest violin! Russia has bombed Ukranian cities to ruble daily for 3.5 years. Now Ukraine is starting to hit Russian cities a little, and you are advocating Nukes? Holy crap. Do you honestly expect Russia to bomb the shit out of a country, and they don't get any payback? Here's an idea, how about both sides stop bombing the other. How about peace? You can't fucking expect peace when one side continues the war. (Sorry to erupt on you, but I thought your comments above were out of character and absolutely ridiculous!).

Harry, if you are in Seattle let me know.I 'll buy the coffee and we can commiserate.

How about IPAs instead?!! I need a drink to get over this! In the past week, Russia has launched 1,200 guided aerial bombs and 870 drone attacks at Ukraine. Since the start of the war, Russia has launched 9,600 missiles and nearly 14,000 attack drones into Ukraine. And we're whining about Ukraine hitting Russian cities now??
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=fc88...dHJpa2VzLXJ1c3NpYS0xNzQxNTE5OTUyLmh0bWw&ntb=1

 

[steve_bank]

Putin is a sick rapid dog that needs to be put down.
Putin's Russia is a dictatorship where opponents are suppressed and jailed, there is no free speech, and no free press.
His constant bombardment of Ukaro9nin civilians is the act of an evil sick mind

Oh, go ahead and do that, if that is what you wish.
There are others in the US and China.
India still has a democracy. The government does not over-ride decisions of the Supreme Court and we have free press.
What else can he do when Ukraine aided by western arms bombs Russian sites?
There may come a time when he may use nukes in Ukraine and elsewhere.

Oh jesus christ! Where can I get the world's smallest violin! Russia has bombed Ukranian cities to ruble daily for 3.5 years. Now Ukraine is starting to hit Russian cities a little, and you are advocating Nukes? Holy crap. Do you honestly expect Russia to bomb the shit out of a country, and they don't get any payback? Here's an idea, how about both sides stop bombing the other. How about peace? You can't fucking expect peace when one side continues the war. (Sorry to erupt on you, but I thought your comments above were out of character and absolutely ridiculous!).

Harry, if you are in Seattle let me know.I 'll buy the coffee and we can commiserate.

How about IPAs instead?!! I need a drink to get over this! In the past week, Russia has launched 1,200 guided aerial bombs and 870 drone attacks at Ukraine. Since the start of the war, Russia has launched 9,600 missiles and nearly 14,000 attack drones into Ukraine. And we're whining about Ukraine hitting Russian cities now??
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=fc88...dHJpa2VzLXJ1c3NpYS0xNzQxNTE5OTUyLmh0bWw&ntb=1

Sure, I can't drink anymore but I can enjoy it vicariously.

 

[Elixir]

The government does not over-ride decisions of the Supreme Court

Neither does ours.
Our Supreme Court’s mandate is to be subservient to the Orange Moron. It’s a new idea for a liberal democracy, but look how well it’s working!

 

[aupmanyav]

Fighting between Pakistan and India has no effect on the greater world.
Putin's provocations by violating NATO airspace can lead to catastrophic consequences which will affect the world. War leading first to Russia using tactical nuclear weapons escalating to a nuclear war.

We knew when to stop. Would have stopped just with the first-day bombing (9 selected terror dens) had Pakistan not reacted.
A poker-face is a necessary attitude for the communist heads-of-states.

 

[aupmanyav]

Now Ukraine is starting to hit Russian cities a little, and you are advocating Nukes? Holy crap. Do you honestly expect Russia to bomb the shit out of a country, and they don't get any payback? Here's an idea, how about both sides stop bombing the other.

Are Ukraine and NATO aware of the possible consequences? I am not advocating nukes but I am looking at the options Putin will have.
We would be delighted if they do that.

 

[steve_bank]

Fighting between Pakistan and India has no effect on the greater world.
Putin's provocations by violating NATO airspace can lead to catastrophic consequences which will affect the world. War leading first to Russia using tactical nuclear weapons escalating to a nuclear war.

We knew when to stop. Would have stopped just with the first-day bombing (9 selected terror dens) had Pakistan not reacted.
A poker-face is a necessary attitude for the communist heads-of-states.

Who is terrorist and who is freedom fighter depends on which side you are on.

To me Pakistan and India are equally stupid to keep up the needles unproductive conflict.

Religion, race, and culture.

Russia's long hatred of the USA and the west only hurts Russia,

 

[aupmanyav]

Our Supreme Court’s mandate is to be subservient to the Orange Moron. It’s a new idea for a liberal democracy, but look how well it’s working!

Ours is not, and now they are discussing if they can over-ride the decisions of the President. Our President has asked for their view.
"The Presidential Reference is a procedure in India where the President can seek the Supreme Court's opinion on important legal questions under Article 143 of the Constitution. This process allows the Court to provide advisory opinions, which are not binding but can clarify constitutional issues, such as the powers of the President and Governors regarding legislative bills." DuckAssist

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The Collegium: The highest judicial group that is entitled to take all decisions, including the appointments and transfers of Judges. The President or the Government cannot interfere in their working. This is independent judiciary.
The Supreme Court Chief Justice and four of his senior most colleagues. (The present four will all serve as the Chief Justices in their time).
Current Chief Justice Gavai, Justice Surya Kant, Justice Vikram Nath, Justice Nagarathna (She will be the first woman to occupy the chair) and Justice Narasimha.

 

[barbos]

Putin is a sick rapid dog that needs to be put down.
Putin's Russia is a dictatorship where opponents are suppressed and jailed, there is no free speech, and no free press.
His constant bombardment of Ukaro9nin civilians is the act of an evil sick mind

Oh, go ahead and do that, if that is what you wish.
There are others in the US and China.
India still has a democracy. The government does not over-ride decisions of the Supreme Court and we have free press.
What else can he do when Ukraine aided by western arms bombs Russian sites?
There may come a time when he may use nukes in Ukraine and elsewhere.

Oh jesus christ! Where can I get the world's smallest violin! Russia has bombed Ukranian cities to ruble daily for 3.5 years. Now Ukraine is starting to hit Russian cities a little, and you are advocating Nukes? Holy crap. Do you honestly expect Russia to bomb the shit out of a country, and they don't get any payback? Here's an idea, how about both sides stop bombing the other. How about peace? You can't fucking expect peace when one side continues the war. (Sorry to erupt on you, but I thought your comments above were out of character and absolutely ridiculous!).

I am sorry to disappoint you, but we have not started bombing the shit out of Ukraine yet.
Whereas YOU did bomb the shit out of Yugoslavia.
And payback? what payback? It's not Ukraine sending drones into Russia. It's NATO sending drones into Russia.

 

[barbos]

Fighting between Pakistan and India has no effect on the greater world.
Putin's provocations by violating NATO airspace can lead to catastrophic consequences which will affect the world. War leading first to Russia using tactical nuclear weapons escalating to a nuclear war.

We knew when to stop. Would have stopped just with the first-day bombing (9 selected terror dens) had Pakistan not reacted.
A poker-face is a necessary attitude for the communist heads-of-states.

Who is terrorist and who is freedom fighter depends on which side you are on.

To me Pakistan and India are equally stupid to keep up the needles unproductive conflict.

Religion, race, and culture.

Russia's long hatred of the USA and the west only hurts Russia,

Russia never had hatred of USA or the West. It's you and your propaganda which has always hated Russia and portrayed us as bad guys, when in reality it is your shitty neocon and imperialist governments who are the bad guys.
You are one ridiculously ignorant brainwashed man.

 

[Elixir]

Ours is not, and now they are discussing if they can over-ride the decisions of the President. Our President has asked for their view.

Don’t rub it in.
We used to have a democracy. Right now N Korea might by the only country on the planet that is less democratic than the USA.

 

[bilby]

Fighting between Pakistan and India has no effect on the greater world.

Putin's provocations by violating NATO airspace can lead to catastrophic consequences which will affect the world. War leading first to Russia using tactical nuclear weapons escalating to a nuclear war.

You do know that both India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons, right?

 

[aupmanyav]

Who is terrorist and who is freedom fighter depends on which side you are on.
To me Pakistan and India are equally stupid to keep up the needles unproductive conflict.

I agree.
They will send cross-border terrorists who kill 25 innocent Hindus (males only, in front of their family and children) because of their religion. Do you think reacting to that is stupid?
Would you not react if Muslim terrorists come and kill 25 innocent Christians in Seattle who were enjoying a holiday along with their families? It is very easy to preach to others.

 

[aupmanyav]

Don’t rub it in.

Why not? I am proud of it. A beautiful independent judicial system has been created in India.
We know who will be the Chief Justice of Indian Supreme Court in 2031. It will be Justice Vipul Pancholi.
We have a set procedure and stick to that. There are never any controversies about it (Retirement age of Judges is 65 years).

 

[barbos]

Fighting between Pakistan and India has no effect on the greater world.

Putin's provocations by violating NATO airspace can lead to catastrophic consequences which will affect the world. War leading first to Russia using tactical nuclear weapons escalating to a nuclear war.

You do know that both India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons, right?

Russia has way more nukes than Pakistan and India and China for that matter combined. Did not prevent US/NATO "proxy" aggression.

 

[Elixir]

Why not?

Why not indeed. I wish you the best in any effort to preserve a democratic republic for the people of India.
Keep in mind that vigilance is required. India has only been a democratic republic since about a month before I was born in 1950. The USA was (mostly) one for well over 200 years before complacency and stupidity stepped in to destroy it.
It is possible that something of value might be salvaged from the ashes, but even that seems less likely every day that the Republicans in control fail to step up to meet the moment.