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How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

 
 
 
Poland decided to not send fighter jets to Nazi Regime in Kiev and and to destroy them instead.
These are old Soviet era Mig-29s.
That would make Mr. Bean mad.
 
barbos said:
Tigers! said:
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TV and credit cards said:
This is also why we would drop a news service found to present information in a disingenuous manner.
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Really, should I remind you BBC and their chemical weapon attack in Syria incident?
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Link please.
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LOL, I did many years ago.
Go find it yourself this time.
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I searched it. Do I need to provide a link or are all satisfied there a well established pattern that barbos is full of shit?
This was a BBC producer injecting opinion into reporting, a situation the BBC corrected.

barbos said:
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barbos said:
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Flamingo missiles, probably loaded with extra flamingoes hits plant producing artillery systems and components for missile launch systems in Russia's Volgograd region
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I agree with you, Russia needs to strike flamingo factories in UK/Germany.
We also need to strike all communication between Ukraine in EU. No more photo-ops for euro-scam in Kiev.
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You seem to have forgotten how these things work.

Superpowers do not attack superpowers. Superpowers arm third parties at war with another superpower.

And, historically, the third party drives off the superpower.

You really stepped in it with Ukraine because most of the third parties have not been exactly trustworthy, neither side wanted to give them stuff they might end up facing. Ukraine, however, is a more trustworthy place and the reality is that modern weapons have enough communications and computing that we can be much more confident the weapons won't be turned on us.

Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Afghanistan. Never a direct conflict between the superpowers. Now you on the losing side again and want to break the pattern.
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Germany is not a superpower. And yes Russia should use proxies to strike US. Unfortunately we don't have proxies. Maximum we can do is to help countries such as Iran to defend whey US attacks first.
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Bold - Would you like them to be?
Keep it up.
 
barbos
Germany is not a superpower. And yes Russia should use proxies to strike US. Unfortunately we don't have proxies. Maximum we can do is to help countries such as Iran to defend whey US attacks first.
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And that is why NATO was created ..... crazy irrational Russians.

In other news Crimea is being effectively cut off from food a d fuel supplies by Ukrainian drones.

Putin has actually made a muted acknowledgement that there are problems associated with the war. From the commentary Russians are seeing the discrepancy between what state media is reporitng and what they are experiencing, like gas shortages. Putin had to say something.

Outside polls and polls in Russia show consistently the majority or Russians want the war to end now. A small percentage wants to fight on.
 
Get over it Barbos.

Putin made a catastrophe blunder invading Ukraine. He though he would be a great Russian conqueror.
 
barbos said:
One more time, it's a fact that Kiev regime loaded their drones with extra fuel - literally plastic bags with fuel not connected to anything.
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No, it's not a fact. It's a statement you made with absolutely zero proof provided to back it up.

How would you even know this if they all burn up whether they hit their target or not?
 
Vlad The Blunderer, that is perfect.

In believe Russia used fuel-ar bombs in the invasion of Ukraine.

Crete a fuel air mixture over an area, and ignite it. It uses up oxygen and people suffocate.

AI Overview
Fuel-air bombs, also known as thermobaric weapons or vacuum bombs, use atmospheric oxygen to create devastating, high-temperature explosions. A two-stage detonation first disperses an aerosol cloud of volatile fuel, which penetrates structures, before a second charge ignites the cloud, generating massive shockwaves, extreme heat, and an oxygen-depleting vacuum.
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Use of chemical weapons during Russia's invasion of Ukraine - Wikipedia

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Since 2022, reports have emerged about Russians using chemical weapons against Ukraine, which were subsequently confirmed multiple times. Such use is prohibited by the first article of the Chemical Weapons Convention.
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Russia is very much acting like the Nazi invasion of Russia,
 
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Meanwhile disaster at "Arlington" cemetery under Kiev.
It was built in a ...... swamp, in spite of all the warning of all the local hydrologists.
So, after recent string of rains it became...... "uninhabitable"
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A cemetery became uninhabitable??? Now that's fuckin' funny. :hysterical:
 
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Get over it Barbos.

Putin made a catastrophe blunder invading Ukraine. He though he would be a great Russian conqueror.
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Zackly. Babs bought in to the vision, and is now struggling to maintain it despite the putrid stench of decaying bodies left strewn over the land his compatriots sought to steal.
 
Russia killed another 20 civilians today in massive bombardment in Kyiv. The west needs to rush additional air defense weapons to Ukraine. This war isn't going to end anytime soon. But delaying defensive shipments is killing people in Ukraine.
 
Harry Bosch said:
Russia killed another 20 civilians today in massive bombardment in Kyiv. The west needs to rush additional air defense weapons to Ukraine. This war isn't going to end anytime soon. But delaying defensive shipments is killing people in Ukraine.
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Yeah, such an efficiency, 70 missiles (plus hundreds of drones) per 20 "civilians"
 
ZiprHead said:
barbos said:
One more time, it's a fact that Kiev regime loaded their drones with extra fuel - literally plastic bags with fuel not connected to anything.
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No, it's not a fact. It's a statement you made with absolutely zero proof provided to back it up.

How would you even know this if they all burn up whether they hit their target or not?
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No, it's a fact and the evidence was provided.
 
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And this just in:
Ukraine Strikes Russia’s Largest Omsk Oil Refinery for the First Time
I had hoped they could reach this far.
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The importance of the Omsk oil refinery.
This is Russia's largest oil refinery which has a capacity of 21 million tons a year. Had. Had a capacity. Ukraine struck the ELOU-AVT-11 primary oil refining unit. Brian Whitmore of the Atlantic Council in a DW.com interview states this is Russia's most advanced refinery unit. Though he did not expound on this point, it is a fair assumption this refining unit is western technology and Russia will be hard-pressed to repair it anytime soon.
ISW has it this refinery is 2,564 km away. FP-1 extended range drones were likely used in the attack, so says AI's source. Regardless, southwestern Siberia is a long reach for Ukraine.
The Putin syndicate is trying ever harder to clamp down on video footage of Ukrainian strikes getting out. But with gas shortages affecting many Russians, it will have little effect. There's no dancing around waiting in line for hours to gas up.
 
TV and credit cards said:
This is Russia's largest oil refinery which has a capacity of 21 million tons a year. Had. Had a capacity.
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It still has the same capacity. None of the Oil facilities in Russia was ever put out of commision for more than a couple of weeks.
Menwhille Kiev regime admitted that the building in Kiev which was struck by Russian army was storing ani-defence missiles, probably Patriots they recently illegally (!!!) transferred from Poland.
There is a scandal starting to develop about that.

Putin should send a video of secondary explosions to the Orange. He would be very impressed.
 
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