How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[bilby]

It's truly bizarre that an apparently quite intelligent person could actually believe that NATO forces attempted, or even planned, to invade Russia.

Obvious propaganda bullshit is obvious.

 

[barbos]

It's truly bizarre that an apparently quite intelligent person could actually believe that NATO forces attempted, or even planned, to invade Russia.

Obvious propaganda bullshit is obvious.

It's trully bizzare that you apparently believe what you just said.
Of course US/NATO did not directly send these "former" marines to Russia.
But they will not be prosecuted for mercenary work and will be reinstated in US army with great honors. And we know that NATO directly involved in planing/targeting Ukrainian forces operation in "Ukraine" and absolutely involved in strikes deep inside Russia.

I have said million times that US cannot initiate direct conflict with Russia. Same with Russia.
That's why all that unprovoked invasion and Ukraine being attacked blah blah propaganda.
RAND corporation asshole was pretty proud saying that US should provoke Russia but not enough to get into big conflict. Unprovoked invasion my ass!

 

[barbos]

Another NATO mercenaries fuckup. One dude lost his balls there, I mean literally lost his testicles.

 

[barbos]

 

[Harry Bosch]

It's truly bizarre that an apparently quite intelligent person could actually believe that NATO forces attempted, or even planned, to invade Russia.

Obvious propaganda bullshit is obvious.

It's trully bizzare that you apparently believe what you just said.
Of course US/NATO did not directly send these "former" marines to Russia.
But they will not be prosecuted for mercenary work and will be reinstated in US army with great honors. And we know that NATO directly involved in planing/targeting Ukrainian forces operation in "Ukraine" and absolutely involved in strikes deep inside Russia.

I have said million times that US cannot initiate direct conflict with Russia. Same with Russia.
That's why all that unprovoked invasion and Ukraine being attacked blah blah propaganda.
RAND corporation asshole was pretty proud saying that US should provoke Russia but not enough to get into big conflict. Unprovoked invasion my ass!

Yea, let me look for the world's largest violin for you. Waaa. Your side gets help from North Korea, Iran, and China. North Korea directly sends troops to the front lines. It's hard to believe that you don't understand this yet: but the west is mostly very much against Russian imperialism in Eastern Europe. And the more land you steal, the more enemies you'll unite against you. Get used to it. I personally think that the war will continue until China finally starts pushing back and starts taking chunks of Russia. The Ussuriysky Island is just the beginning....

 

[ZiprHead]

Ukraine war briefing: Russia bans voting against the war

Every candidate of Yabloko – the last anti-war party – barred from September elections; warning over ‘Russian Starlink’ progress. What we know on day 1,630

www.theguardian.com

Yeah, Russians support the war so much opposition must be banned.

Imagine a party in US funded by Kremlin.

What the hell does that hae to do with the article?

 

[barbos]

Ukraine war briefing: Russia bans voting against the war

Every candidate of Yabloko – the last anti-war party – barred from September elections; warning over ‘Russian Starlink’ progress. What we know on day 1,630

www.theguardian.com

Yeah, Russians support the war so much opposition must be banned.

Imagine a party in US funded by Kremlin.

What the hell does that hae to do with the article?

They were banned for receiving funding from Washington.

 

[barbos]

Yea, let me look for the world's largest violin for you. Waaa. Your side gets help from North Korea, Iran, and China

Dude, we pay hard cash for all that help and it is hardly more than rounding error in the numbers.
So it's not really help.

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

 

[barbos]

North Korea directly sends troops to the front lines.

false. NK sent their troops to repeal NATO invasion into Kursk. In return they got security guarantees against western agression. So it was a great move on the part of Dear Leader.

 

[barbos]

but the west is mostly very much against Russian imperialism in Eastern Europe

Bullshit. It's western imperialims in Western Russia. Ukraine is Western Russia.

 

[barbos]

Euroscum now wants negotiations with Russia:

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yea, let me look for the world's largest violin for you. Waaa. Your side gets help from North Korea, Iran, and China

Dude, we pay hard cash for all that help and it is hardly more than rounding error in the numbers.
So it's not really help.

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

They were years ago (over four now)... back when the initial Russian shock and awe campaign failed. Now Ukraine are producing drones, a lot of drones. Drones that are much more capable of causing damage without needing NATO missiles. So good job on Russia giving Ukraine enough time to adjust to the rules of war.

 

[ZiprHead]

Yea, let me look for the world's largest violin for you. Waaa. Your side gets help from North Korea, Iran, and China

Dude, we pay hard cash for all that help and it is hardly more than rounding error in the numbers.
So it's not really help.

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

Ukraine practically invented FPV drone warfare that is presently decimating your troops and infrastructure with no help from anyone else.

Four years and hundreds of thousands of dead Russians and you barely occupy 10 percent of Ukraine and you call that winning. It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

 

[barbos]

They were years ago (over four now)... back when the initial Russian shock and awe campaign failed.

It did not fail, we now know that. It was reveled that Putin was fooled by Macron&Co.

Now Ukraine are producing drones, a lot of drones.

They are not producing anything at all. They were and probably still are assembling FPV drones using chienese components EU smuggles into Ukraine.
Anything bigger that FPV is made in EU, again, using chinese components.
Moreover their whole economy survives solely on EU handouts.

 

[barbos]

Yea, let me look for the world's largest violin for you. Waaa. Your side gets help from North Korea, Iran, and China

Dude, we pay hard cash for all that help and it is hardly more than rounding error in the numbers.
So it's not really help.

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

Ukraine practically invented FPV drone warfare that is presently decimating your troops and infrastructure with no help from anyone else.

Yes, they invented, and no, they are not decimating anything in Russia. It is Ukraine what is being decimated.

Four years and hundreds of thousands of dead Russians and you barely occupy 10 percent of Ukraine and you call that winning. It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

We are not interested in territory. We are interested in destroying Ukraine to a point where they collapse.

 

[ZiprHead]

They were years ago (over four now)... back when the initial Russian shock and awe campaign failed.

It did not fail, we now know that. It was reveled that Putin was fooled by Macron&Co.

How did such a great leader get fooled so easily?

 

[barbos]

They were years ago (over four now)... back when the initial Russian shock and awe campaign failed.

It did not fail, we now know that. It was reveled that Putin was fooled by Macron&Co.

How did such a great leader get fooled so easily?

Don't know, but he admitted he was.
Russian side says they have Macron call recorded.

 

[ZiprHead]

Yea, let me look for the world's largest violin for you. Waaa. Your side gets help from North Korea, Iran, and China

Dude, we pay hard cash for all that help and it is hardly more than rounding error in the numbers.
So it's not really help.

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

Ukraine practically invented FPV drone warfare that is presently decimating your troops and infrastructure with no help from anyone else.

Yes, they invented, and no, they are not decimated anything in Russia. It is Ukraine what is being decimated.

Next time say it with feeling. Maybe people will believe it then.

Four years and hundreds of thousands of dead Russians and you barely occupy 10 percent of Ukraine and you call that winning. It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

We are not interested in territory. We are interested in destroying Ukraine to a point where they collapse.

You cannot make them collapse without taking territory.

 

[barbos]

You cannot make them collapse without taking territory.

We can and we ARE taking their territories.
Ukraine will paraguay itself eventually.

 

[Bronzeage]

Yea, let me look for the world's largest violin for you. Waaa. Your side gets help from North Korea, Iran, and China

Dude, we pay hard cash for all that help and it is hardly more than rounding error in the numbers.
So it's not really help.

Ukraine is 100% dependent on the Western help and weapons.

Ukraine practically invented FPV drone warfare that is presently decimating your troops and infrastructure with no help from anyone else.

Yes, they invented, and no, they are not decimating anything in Russia. It is Ukraine what is being decimated.

Four years and hundreds of thousands of dead Russians and you barely occupy 10 percent of Ukraine and you call that winning. It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

We are not interested in territory. We are interested in destroying Ukraine to a point where they collapse.

"Decimated" is not the word you want to use. Ukraine has quinquemated Russian refineries and Wildberries warehouses. It's a funny thing about -ating things. The smaller the prefix, the worse it is. It looks like Ukraine is well on their way to unusatting Russia.

If Russia wants to collapse Ukraine, they need to get to work on the job. It's been four years and now Muscovites sit in their car in line at the gas station while out one window the see a burning Wildberries and a burning refinery out the other. Collapsing Ukraine sounds like a noble goal when you describe it, but do Muscovites really care that much about Ukraine?

After all, they would rather sit in a car watching a burning Wildberries than sign a contract and go collapse Ukraine.