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How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

barbos said:
Our airstrikes obviously. The point was that We can bomb Kiev at will with no opposition.
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Plenty of Londoners took shelter during the Blitz, but there was definitely still opposition. Aren't you proud that your fascist government is using Nazi tactics in your campaign of fascist imperialism?

BTW, Where is Putin sleeping? You think he is sleeping in his Arkhipo-Osipovka palace? LOL.
 
I watched the Ryan Renolds movie last night.
It's about a cold war pilot that gets shot down spying on Russia in 1987.
He is aided by an old KGB agent.
Basic theme was that there are good people everywhere, it's the governments that are fucked up.
Both American and Russian!
 
barbos said:
Unprovoked
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Yes! Unprovoked! What a stupid book and video.

The expansion of NATO does not justify Russian violence. NATO is a defensive pact that PUTIN himself was unopposed to joining in the early 2000, (just so long as he was allowed to have preferential status that no other members have). Switzerland and Austria remain completely unfased by the presence of NATO completely surrounding their borders, but somehow Russia sees a NATO neighbour as an existential threat? The reason for this is that defensive alliances aren't threatening to ANYONE. Russia can't think of an actual good excuse for their violence so is forced to make up non-existent threats.

If your neighbor, Mr. John, across the street happens to own a hunting rifle and belong to a hunting rifle club, that doesn't justify burning down your next door neighbor's house, Mr. Robert, who was considering joining the hunting rifle club. The existence of Mr. John is not a provocation to assault Mr. Robert! The hunting rifle club is not a threat to you!

We have covered this dozens of times in this thread, Barbos. When will you start to learn about the real world?
 
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barbos said:
SLD said:
So far this year, Russia has gained something like 180 square kilometers of territory in Ukraine and its rate has substantially decreased. But it’s lost almost 400 square kilometers as well.
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Bullshit, utter bullshit.
ISW are fucking liars. They take what other fucking liars (Kiev Regime) say as truth.
Ukrainans had one agency which was somewhat reliable in reporting which was called "Deep State", that until they were threatened by Elensky to mobilize them all. After that they basically report utter BS.
Having said that, for the millionth's time, this "Russia is moving too slow" trope is really tiresome.
We are not concerned with territory so much, main concern is exterminating ukraine/west's ability to fight.
And right now, Russia use glide bombs over Odessa. Ukraine has no meaningful air-defence.
Outside Reichstag, I mean Elensky residence, Ukraine does not even try to shoot down russian drones
100% of the jet powered drones and missiles are reaching their target. Ukraine has ability to shoot down older propeller driven geranium drones, but half of the drones are now jet powered version, they fly too high for ground fire.
Russian deep strike drones have FPV ability from mesh communication and limited ability from russian "StarLink" That allows tor strike moving targets such as trains and we were systematically hitting locomotives.
Kiev regime clowns claim taking shitload of territory back. In reality these asshole simply plant a flag into gray zone ares and take a picture then leave and claim x square kilometers as taken back.
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So why haven’t you won and conquered the country already? How many square kilometers have you captured?
 
SLD said:
At this rate you’ll get Kiev in about 50 years. Another 50 gets you the rest of Ukraine. You’ll get to London some time around 3150.
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Sure, sure … unless Finland or Latvia or someone decides to put a stop to it.
Ukraine has revealed Russia to be a massively uncoordinated paper tiger.
 
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