How will America avoid confrontation in Syria?

[tupac chopra]

It’ll take more than a missile strike to clean up Obama’s mess in Syria?

Robert Kagan writes.

America’s adversaries are not going to be convinced by one missile strike that the United States is back in the business of projecting power to defend its interests and the world order. The Russians, by suspending an agreement with the United States to coordinate air operations over Syria, are already implicitly threatening to escalate in Syria. The Iranians are likely to step up their activities and could strike at Americans in Syria and Iraq. The testing of Trump’s resolve actually begins now. If the United States backs down in the face of these challenges, the missile strike, though a worthy action in itself, may end up reinforcing the world’s impression that the United States does not have the stomach for confrontation.

Instead of being a one-time event, the missile strike needs to be the opening move in a comprehensive political, diplomatic and military strategy to rebalance the situation in Syria in America’s favor. That means reviving some of those proposals that Obama rejected over the past four years: a no-fly zone to protect Syrian civilians, the grounding of the Syrian air force, and the effective arming and training of the moderate opposition, all aimed at an eventual political settlement that can bring the Syrian civil war, and therefore the Assad regime, to an end. The United States’ commitment to such a course will have to be clear enough to deter the Russians from attempting to disrupt it. This in turn will require moving sufficient military assets to the region so that neither Russia nor Iran will be tempted to escalate the conflict to a crisis, and to be sure that American forces will be ready if they do.

The Trump administration is going to find itself under increasing pressure to do more and more dangerous things.

 

[Bronzeage]

Grounding the Syrian Air Force means grounding the Russian Air Force. At least we'll get to find out who has the best fighter jets.

 

[braces_for_impact]

Grounding the Syrian Air Force means grounding the Russian Air Force. At least we'll get to find out who has the best fighter jets.

Here's who'd win in a dogfight between Russia's and the US's top fighter jets.

Conclusion: The Russians are more maneuverable in a traditional dogfight. However,US jets have much superior Electronics warfare and stealth ability, and so can engage and destroy Russian jets long before they get into visual dogfight range.

Interesting.

 

[J842P]

It’ll take more than a missile strike to clean up Obama’s mess in Syria?

Robert Kagan writes.

Instead of being a one-time event, the missile strike needs to be the opening move in a comprehensive political, diplomatic and military strategy to rebalance the situation in Syria in America’s favor. That means reviving some of those proposals that Obama rejected over the past four years: a no-fly zone to protect Syrian civilians, the grounding of the Syrian air force, and the effective arming and training of the moderate opposition, all aimed at an eventual political settlement that can bring the Syrian civil war, and therefore the Assad regime, to an end. The United States’ commitment to such a course will have to be clear enough to deter the Russians from attempting to disrupt it. This in turn will require moving sufficient military assets to the region so that neither Russia nor Iran will be tempted to escalate the conflict to a crisis, and to be sure that American forces will be ready if they do.

The Trump administration is going to find itself under increasing pressure to do more and more dangerous things.

Fuck Robert Kagan.

 

[barbos]

It’ll take more than a missile strike to clean up Obama’s mess in Syria?

Robert Kagan writes.





The Trump administration is going to find itself under increasing pressure to do more and more dangerous things.

Fuck Robert Kagan.

Double fuck Robert Kagan, and triple fuck the syrian "opposition" aka Al Qaeda.

Kagan left the Republican Party in 2016 due to what he described as Donald Trump's fascism,[7] and endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, I knew it was him with that stupid "No fly zone"

 

[Will Wiley]

The US spent in the vicinity of $500M and managed to have 4 or 5 trained men. That's at least $100M per man.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwxmjs0TKkI[/YOUTUBE]

Most of the fighters defected to Al Nusra (la Qaeda)


How much longer are American taxpayers going to fund idiots like Robert Kagan?

 

[whichphilosophy]

It’ll take more than a missile strike to clean up Obama’s mess in Syria?

Robert Kagan writes.

Instead of being a one-time event, the missile strike needs to be the opening move in a comprehensive political, diplomatic and military strategy to rebalance the situation in Syria in America’s favor. That means reviving some of those proposals that Obama rejected over the past four years: a no-fly zone to protect Syrian civilians, the grounding of the Syrian air force, and the effective arming and training of the moderate opposition, all aimed at an eventual political settlement that can bring the Syrian civil war, and therefore the Assad regime, to an end. The United States’ commitment to such a course will have to be clear enough to deter the Russians from attempting to disrupt it. This in turn will require moving sufficient military assets to the region so that neither Russia nor Iran will be tempted to escalate the conflict to a crisis, and to be sure that American forces will be ready if they do.

The Trump administration is going to find itself under increasing pressure to do more and more dangerous things.

Act adults and instigate peace talks. This is the right time. ISIS is on the run and the US backed troops It's better for large countries to work out ways of cooperating rather than confrontation.

The Americans want to extend the war to put its own puppet regime in power. However we can assume based on its track record once Assad goes the Syria will degenerate into the usual chaos in the name of regime change.

The US and Russia have nuclear weapons. Isn't it better that they enter into cooperation rather than confrontation.

 

[whichphilosophy]

The US spent in the vicinity of $500M and managed to have 4 or 5 trained men. That's at least $100M per man.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwxmjs0TKkI[/YOUTUBE]

Most of the fighters defected to Al Nusra (la Qaeda)


How much longer are American taxpayers going to fund idiots like Robert Kagan?

I'm sure they didn't defect to Al Nusra; they are Al Nusra right under the allies noses. George Galloway former MP highlighted this as the rebellion started. This is how they operate. Check out The Muslim Student's Association in the USA. This is a group set up by the Muslim Brotherhood. These groups simply blend into acceptable groups or set up as acceptable groups.

The US has left a whole trail of chaos in its other countries.

It seems that the Europeans have advised against direct sanctions against Russia despite Boris Johnston.

 

[Harry Bosch]

It’ll take more than a missile strike to clean up Obama’s mess in Syria?

Robert Kagan writes.

Instead of being a one-time event, the missile strike needs to be the opening move in a comprehensive political, diplomatic and military strategy to rebalance the situation in Syria in America’s favor. That means reviving some of those proposals that Obama rejected over the past four years: a no-fly zone to protect Syrian civilians, the grounding of the Syrian air force, and the effective arming and training of the moderate opposition, all aimed at an eventual political settlement that can bring the Syrian civil war, and therefore the Assad regime, to an end. The United States’ commitment to such a course will have to be clear enough to deter the Russians from attempting to disrupt it. This in turn will require moving sufficient military assets to the region so that neither Russia nor Iran will be tempted to escalate the conflict to a crisis, and to be sure that American forces will be ready if they do.

The Trump administration is going to find itself under increasing pressure to do more and more dangerous things.

You're going to blame Syria mess on Obama?! Here's the deal: the Russians are willing go to WW3 over Syria. We are not. At least most Americans are not willing. AFAIC: there's nothing in mid-east worth going to WW3 over.

 

[funinspace]

The Trump administration is going to find itself under increasing pressure to do more and more dangerous things.

Well El Cheato did comment during the campaign that he was on board with putting thousands of boots on the ground in Syria-Iraq (see below). So far I'd say America has little say in the matter, as El Cheato didn't feel the need to ask Congress for support as Pres. Obama had. And the Repug, as usual, felt they had to be opposed to whatever Pres. Obama was proposing. Now they are busy tonguing El Cheato's ass...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...s-and-results/2016/03/trump-iraq-syria-220608

Trump was answering a question about comments from General Lloyd Austin III, the head of U.S. Central Command who said more troops on the ground would be needed to defeat ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

“We really have no choice, we have to knock out ISIS,” Trump said. “I would listen to the generals, but I’m hearing numbers of 20,000-30,000.”

 

[untermensche]

What's so great about this is we live in a society where "The People" have no power.

We have no power to change anything Trump decides to do. He is basically an omnipotent King we call "president". In terms of the use of the US military or US weapons.

We are totally at the mercy of his "judgements".

Trump has bullied and lied his way through life.

That is what he will try to do here. He knows nothing else.

He does not know history or science.

He watches FOX news.

I say humanity will be very lucky to survive him.

 

[Opoponax]

You're going to blame Syria mess on Obama?!

Fuck yeah. Obama's a total dick for not leaving Trump a perfect world in which there are no problems. A strong economy, low unemployment, ISIS nearly defeated, no new wars, more people with health insurance than at any other time in the nation's history, marked progress on green energy, etc. None of that means shit because it means Trump can't golf four days a week instead of just two. How can one not feel sorry for Trump. Who knew that being POTUS brought with it complicated problems?

Thanks Obama.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It’ll take more than a missile strike to clean up Obama’s mess in Syria?

Robert Kagan writes.





The Trump administration is going to find itself under increasing pressure to do more and more dangerous things.

You're going to blame Syria mess on Obama?! Here's the deal: the Russians are willing go to WW3 over Syria. We are not. At least most Americans are not willing. AFAIC: there's nothing in mid-east worth going to WW3 over.

Just like Pres. Taft was to blame for Europe's conflict.

 

[Horatio Parker]

Typical neocon stuff. The alt left is suggesting that Trump was bullied into that strike.

The thing about Obama not mentioned is that he went to Congress and received no support. Before his resolution could be brought to a vote and likely defeated, the Russians proposed disarming Assad of chemical weapons. With that compromise, the whole thing became moot, cuz it was pretty clear the will of Congress and the people was against intervention.

 

[barbos]

It’ll take more than a missile strike to clean up Obama’s mess in Syria?

Robert Kagan writes.





The Trump administration is going to find itself under increasing pressure to do more and more dangerous things.

You're going to blame Syria mess on Obama?! Here's the deal: the Russians are willing go to WW3 over Syria. We are not. At least most Americans are not willing. AFAIC: there's nothing in mid-east worth going to WW3 over.

You are making no sense. It was Clinton with her no-fly zone who was proposing WW3, russians want Syria back to its previous state that is before US funded Al Qaeda and other freedom fighters to overthrow Assad.

 

[funinspace]

You're going to blame Syria mess on Obama?!

Fuck yeah. Obama's a total dick for not leaving Trump a perfect world in which there are no problems. A strong economy, low unemployment, ISIS nearly defeated, no new wars, more people with health insurance than at any other time in the nation's history, marked progress on green energy, etc. None of that means shit because it means Trump can't golf four days a week instead of just two. How can one not feel sorry for Trump. Who knew that being POTUS brought with it complicated problems?

Thanks Obama.

First I'm not claiming it is all Pres. Obama's fault. He may not have left Trump with any new wars, but 2 more countries have been reduced to chaos: Libya and Syria. And Obama was certainly a major player in both. Though Syria-Iraq/ISIS could be considered a light war, or a sequel to the Iraq occupation.

Additionally, I don't think that 50% of Americans that struggle to make ends meet would consider this a strong economy. Not that this is Obama's fault either, but I don' think he should be credited with providing a 'strong economy', so much as helping to prevent a second depression.

 

[untermensche]

Obama inherited an economy on the verge of collapse.

He inherited two massive and useless wars.

Trump has inherited the stability Obama restored.

But Trump is the kind of ignoramus that can destroy twenty years of other people's hard work in a day.

He is a large and stupid bull in a china shop.

 

[barbos]

I must say (alleged) hacking of US election has turned into utter disaster. Trump is easily manipulated by anybody but russians.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I must say (alleged) hacking of US election has turned into utter disaster. Trump is easily manipulated by anybody but russians.

He's easily manipulated by whomever is in the room with him at the time, be they Russians or otherwise.

 

[barbos]

I must say (alleged) hacking of US election has turned into utter disaster. Trump is easily manipulated by anybody but russians.

He's easily manipulated by whomever is in the room with him at the time, be they Russians or otherwise.

Clearly that is a fatal flaw in (allegedly) Putin's plan.