If Biden Wins....

[Cheerful Charlie]

It is obvious Biden is going to win the election. 538 gives the Democrats a 69% chance of retaking the Senate. If the time comes Biden is announced to be the official President of the US, and the Senate is flipped, now what?

What then should we the American voters who ousted Trump do next?

I myself want to see a new Democratic party. No more nice Democrats. I want to see blood and teeth on the floor.

A scorched earth policy on gerrymandering, voter caging, voter suppression, voter discouragment and other GOP dirty tricks.
No more allowing a minority of GOP idiots to successfully play obstructionist.
Reopen the botched investigations into GOP wrong doing and no more allowing fools like Barr to derail that any more. Refuse to testify and drag the perp into the chambers to testify in chains if need be.
Start rebuilding the scientific agencies Trump has decimated, stymied and silenced.

And more. No more stern letters from Pelosi and nothing more than that.

Just for starters.

Now, how to make things happen rather than let the Democrats go limp, and inert?

 

[LoAmmo]

There would be much to do (and undo,) for sure. But...gotta win first. And I don't in any way think it's a given.

And, fuck 538. They said HRC was gonna be the President, too, last time.

 

[Trausti]

China will be happy.

 

[ideologyhunter]

In North Korea, Kim will be over the moon. His lover can come to him!

 

[Politesse]

I myself want to see a new Democratic party. No more nice Democrats. I want to see blood and teeth on the floor.

Ha! We'll be lucky if they don't pardon the entire rogues gallery and actively pursue formerly Republican legislative agendas, just like last time. This country gets more right-wing every decade.

 

[ideologyhunter]

At the very least, don't pack the economic policy advisers with Wall Streeters.

 

[Patooka]

China will be happy.

Your boy Vlad won't be.

 

[prideandfall]

Now, how to make things happen rather than let the Democrats go limp, and inert?

change the fundamental nature of inherent reality, because that's what it would take to prevent that from happening.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Now, how to make things happen rather than let the Democrats go limp, and inert?

change the fundamental nature of inherent reality, because that's what it would take to prevent that from happening.

People can't expect democrats to go out on a limb when their support tends to be so short lived and weak over time.

 

[OLDMAN]

What made me sick yesterday was Sen. Ted Cruz talking about the ten commandments being plastered all over the Supreme Court building.


Starts about the 19 minute slot.

 

[Worldtraveller]

Now, how to make things happen rather than let the Democrats go limp, and inert?

change the fundamental nature of inherent reality, because that's what it would take to prevent that from happening.

People can't expect democrats to go out on a limb when their support tends to be so short lived and weak over time.

Especially by the 'centrists', right Harry?

 

[laughing dog]

China will be happy.

Not according to China: https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/10/12/china-trump-accelerating-american-decline/

In August, the U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence claimed publicly that China “prefers that President Trump – whom Beijing sees as unpredictable – does not win reelection.” But these assessments tell only half the story, and Chinese open sources suggest the need for a more nuanced view.

While Chinese leaders may wish for a reprieve from President Donald Trump’s recent aggressiveness, they also believe that he has weakened American power and accelerated American decline. It is this latter judgement that is more consequential, encouraging Beijing to challenge Washington not only in Asia but globally, too.

 

[Elixir]

We'll be lucky if they don't pardon the entire rogues gallery and actively pursue formerly Republican legislative agendas, just like last time.

We'll be lucky even if they do. The 2016 fuckup could easily have meant the end of America as we know it. Still might.

China will be happy.

So will everyone else but the Kleptocratic Union and these guys:

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No. Simply undo what can be undone in the Republican dirty tricks. Don't descend to their level.

 

[prideandfall]

No. Simply undo what can be undone in the Republican dirty tricks. Don't descend to their level.

i would posit that the two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Worldtraveller]

No. Simply undo what can be undone in the Republican dirty tricks. Don't descend to their level.

You are utterly incapable of learning from history.

Good to know, I guess.

 

[Elixir]

No. Simply undo what can be undone in the Republican dirty tricks. Don't descend to their level.

Do you know why the Republicans use dirty tricks? It helps them do shit overnight that will take years to un-do using traditional methods. Their level will be ALL THERE IS if they aren't dealt with swiftly and thoroughly.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No. Simply undo what can be undone in the Republican dirty tricks. Don't descend to their level.

Do you know why the Republicans use dirty tricks? It helps them do shit overnight that will take years to un-do using traditional methods. Their level will be ALL THERE IS if they aren't dealt with swiftly and thoroughly.

If the Democrats descend to their level that level will be all there is, period.

 

[LoAmmo]

No. Simply undo what can be undone in the Republican dirty tricks. Don't descend to their level.

Do you know why the Republicans use dirty tricks? It helps them do shit overnight that will take years to un-do using traditional methods. Their level will be ALL THERE IS if they aren't dealt with swiftly and thoroughly.

If the Democrats descend to their level that level will be all there is, period.

I at least admire and respect the sentiment behind that.
"When They Go Low, We Go High" and all that, but, at some point in 2020, I abandoned that ideal.

The problem with it is that it's lofty and principled and morally superior and will result in you losing to the cheaters each time, every time.
I'm kinda tired of boxing by the rules and fighting fair against a cheater who's paying off the referee, snuck a brick into their gloves, and made sure YOUR supporters weren't allowed into the arena. I used to think it was better to fight fair and lose, even to a cheater--and now I think it just makes you a fucking loser.

If Biden wins (and Dems control Senate) I hope he crams about 8 or 9 30-year-old far-lefty judges onto the Supreme Court, and I don't want to hear a goddamned PEEP about it from Fox and Friends.

 

[ZiprHead]

^^^ This.