If Biden Wins....

[ZiprHead]

When Jews Praised Mussolini and Supported Nazis: Meet Israel's First Fascists

Jews are fascists for protesting the government closure of their synagogues? Um, okay. Your understanding of history is a little off.

Just pointing out that Jews have supported fascists in the past.

What you're blathering about above I have no idea.

 

[Trausti]

When Jews Praised Mussolini and Supported Nazis: Meet Israel's First Fascists

Jews are fascists for protesting the government closure of their synagogues? Um, okay. Your understanding of history is a little off.

Just pointing out that Jews have supported fascists in the past.

What you're blathering about above I have no idea.

Did they support Cuomo? Don’t recall.

 

[Trausti]

Soy. Not even once.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

It's just their name. Antifa is about as anti-fascist as the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea is Democratic or a Republic.

Question is, if Biden wins, what will that group do? Some say they will go home, others say they will feel emboldened.

Emboldened to do what? Continue to counter-protest at Nazi events?

That's what Antifa does? That's new.

 

[Politesse]

It's just their name. Antifa is about as anti-fascist as the Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea is Democratic or a Republic.

Question is, if Biden wins, what will that group do? Some say they will go home, others say they will feel emboldened.

Emboldened to do what? Continue to counter-protest at Nazi events?

That's what Antifa does? That's new.

Have you ever actually met an Antifa person? Yes, that's generally what they do, organize within a local area to mount a resistance against local fascist movements.

 

[Trausti]

That's what Antifa does? That's new.

Have you ever actually met an Antifa person? Yes, that's generally what they do, organize within a local area to mount a resistance against local fascist movements.

Please define fascist.

 

[Politesse]

That's what Antifa does? That's new.

Have you ever actually met an Antifa person? Yes, that's generally what they do, organize within a local area to mount a resistance against local fascist movements.

Please define fascist.

Well, as far as Antifa groups are concerned, probably "anyone they consider fascist".

 

[Trausti]

Please define fascist.

Well, as far as Antifa groups are concerned, probably "anyone they consider fascist".

Oh, they’re witch hunters. How progressive.

 

[Politesse]

Please define fascist.

Well, as far as Antifa groups are concerned, probably "anyone they consider fascist".

Oh, they’re witch hunters. How progressive.

Yes and no. Yes, in that they paint a broad brush, are more than a little paranoid, and see their foes as morally evil. No, in that I've never heard a credible report of an Antifa group (not just "rioters") going out of their way to hunt down people who aren't themselves demonstrating in the public sphere.

Antifa members are a politcally diverse group, and wouldn't necessarily consider themselves "Progressive", the core of the original movement were anarchists and the far left wing, not Progressives.

 

[Elixir]

Oh, they’re witch hunters. How progressive.

Yes and no. Yes, in that they paint a broad brush, are more than a little paranoid, and see their foes as morally evil. No, in that I've never heard a credible report of an Antifa group (not just "rioters") going out of their way to hunt down people who aren't themselves demonstrating in the public sphere.

Antifa members are a politcally diverse group, and wouldn't necessarily consider themselves "Progressive", the core of the original movement were anarchists and the far left wing, not Progressives.

Well damn you Politesse for making antifa so hard to personify, vilify, and make into a scarecrow to frighten trumpsuckers into voting for Agent Orange.
It was so much easier when they were an organization like the KKK, with meetings, a Grand Wizard and a personal hero like Donald Trump.

 

[Trausti]

Oh, they’re witch hunters. How progressive.

Yes and no. Yes, in that they paint a broad brush, are more than a little paranoid, and see their foes as morally evil. No, in that I've never heard a credible report of an Antifa group (not just "rioters") going out of their way to hunt down people who aren't themselves demonstrating in the public sphere.

Antifa members are a politcally diverse group, and wouldn't necessarily consider themselves "Progressive", the core of the original movement were anarchists and the far left wing, not Progressives.

I don’t disagree that they’re mainly anarchists. We in the Pacific NW have incurred their tantrums for years. But please don’t beatify them because they call themselves anti-fascists when they behave exactly like brown shirts.

 

[Politesse]

Oh, they’re witch hunters. How progressive.

Yes and no. Yes, in that they paint a broad brush, are more than a little paranoid, and see their foes as morally evil. No, in that I've never heard a credible report of an Antifa group (not just "rioters") going out of their way to hunt down people who aren't themselves demonstrating in the public sphere.

Antifa members are a politcally diverse group, and wouldn't necessarily consider themselves "Progressive", the core of the original movement were anarchists and the far left wing, not Progressives.

I don’t disagree that they’re mainly anarchists. We in the Pacific NW have incurred their tantrums for years. But please don’t beatify them because they call themselves anti-fascists when they behave exactly like brown shirts.

I don't know how you got beatification out of my posts. Do you really just have room for two types of people in your ideology, saints and witches? Just because I am not villifying a class of people or willfully spreading misinformation about them, doesn't mean I think they can do no wrong.

The comparison to the brown shirts is absurd, they aren't nationalists or nativists.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

If the Democrats descend to their level that level will be all there is, period.

I think the intent will be to REMOVE that level of potential playing field... if it takes the same type of political bullshit in the neighborhood of "because I can get away with it", then I will applaud it.

"pack" the supreme court with 13 qualified judges with diverse legal backgrounds.
impeach the most egregiously appointed judges on the the grounds of "because we can"

Doing this sort of thing makes the left as bad as the right. There won't be any side that's good.

pass a law after that changing the way judges can be appointed
pass a law that defines mandatory processes for impeachment
pass a few dozen laws to replace the now dead "traditions" of our political system so there is no more "but we never thought anyone would really DO that".

Here I agree--there should be a bunch of laws and perhaps an amendment or two to avoid a repeat of His Flatulence.

label the GoP a domestic terrorist organization, disband the RNC under threat of detainment in Guantanamo Bay, and establish mandatory universal procedures for establishing and operating a political party that include strict laws with ultra-harsh penalties for operating in any way that is less than completely transparent.

Way overboard.

push for a constitutional amendment that removes the electoral college

I would like that but it's not really important, if an amendment can pass so can that popular vote compact.

do all of these things using as dirty a trick as you want. Then close the door on those tricks so they can never be used by anyone again.

That's the problem, the door won't be closed.

 

[Patooka]

Oh, they’re witch hunters. How progressive.

Yes and no. Yes, in that they paint a broad brush, are more than a little paranoid, and see their foes as morally evil. No, in that I've never heard a credible report of an Antifa group (not just "rioters") going out of their way to hunt down people who aren't themselves demonstrating in the public sphere.

Antifa members are a politcally diverse group, and wouldn't necessarily consider themselves "Progressive", the core of the original movement were anarchists and the far left wing, not Progressives.

I don’t disagree that they’re mainly anarchists. We in the Pacific NW have incurred their tantrums for years. But please don’t beatify them because they call themselves anti-fascists when they behave exactly like brown shirts.

So you only prefer simple answers and wish thing weren't complicated right?

Me, I prefer politicians who don't dog whistle fascism. I am aware of the irony.

 

[Jarhyn]

I don’t disagree that they’re mainly anarchists. We in the Pacific NW have incurred their tantrums for years. But please don’t beatify them because they call themselves anti-fascists when they behave exactly like brown shirts.

So you only prefer simple answers and wish thing weren't complicated right?

Me, I prefer politicians who don't dog whistle fascism. I am aware of the irony.

Thing is, I recall my political evolution. First I was a howling creationist fundiegelical who hated gay people, then I was an edgy anarchist for some time intent on seeing humanity reset, and after that I fell into libertarianism for all of about a year or two until I figured out it was just a race to become king of the wasteland.

Libertarianism is so close to anarchism that I don't really see much difference anymore. Of course, there isn't much difference. Both are really just tantrums over being expected to pay dues for the nice things that society brings us.

 

[Patooka]

China will be happy.

Well, this quote aged well.

 

[Trausti]

I don’t disagree that they’re mainly anarchists. We in the Pacific NW have incurred their tantrums for years. But please don’t beatify them because they call themselves anti-fascists when they behave exactly like brown shirts.

So you only prefer simple answers and wish thing weren't complicated right?

Me, I prefer politicians who don't dog whistle fascism. I am aware of the irony.

Define fascism.

 

[Elixir]

Define fascism.

LMGTFY

Ignorant? Or just lazy, or both?

 

[Trausti]

Define fascism.

LMGTFY

Ignorant? Or just lazy, or both?

Well, you’re in luck. No one has fit that definition for 75 years.

 

[Trausti]

My error. The GDR built the Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart to keep out the fascists. Here we see fascists revealing their fascism by swimming to a fascist country.