If the baby can survive outside the womb is abortion "murder"?

[Loren Pechtel]

Forgiveable.
There must exist somewhere, a compilation of reasons given for abortions performed after 24 weeks... and I doubt that it consists of much more than lethal fetal abnormalities and threats to the life of the mother.

Both of these are too restrictive.

I have a niece that had an abortion in the 5th month--she was not realistically in danger of death. She was in danger of blindness and the treatment would do bad things to the fetus. Thus abort/treat/try again.

 

[Elixir]

Forgiveable.
There must exist somewhere, a compilation of reasons given for abortions performed after 24 weeks... and I doubt that it consists of much more than lethal fetal abnormalities and threats to the life of the mother.

Both of these are too restrictive.

I have a niece that had an abortion in the 5th month--she was not realistically in danger of death. She was in danger of blindness and the treatment would do bad things to the fetus. Thus abort/treat/try again.

When was that and in what State?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Forgiveable.
There must exist somewhere, a compilation of reasons given for abortions performed after 24 weeks... and I doubt that it consists of much more than lethal fetal abnormalities and threats to the life of the mother.

Both of these are too restrictive.

I have a niece that had an abortion in the 5th month--she was not realistically in danger of death. She was in danger of blindness and the treatment would do bad things to the fetus. Thus abort/treat/try again.

When was that and in what State?

I do not recall the year beyond that it was many years ago. No state.

 

[TomC]

I do not recall the year beyond that it was many years ago. No state.

It doesn't really matter.
For decades after the 1973 RvW decision, patients and their medical care staff decided what to do. That was just that.

Now we have a bunch of idiots in state government practicing medicine without a license, chasing political power and wealth in a "Crueler than Thou" competition.

I'm no fan of casual abortion but the shit show going on in the USA right now is an abomination!
Tom

 

[excreationist]

That's what Elon Musk says. I tend to agree with him.

Abortion of babies which can survive outside the womb is something which doesn't actually exist. Late term abortion is necessary when the fetus cannot survive until term and will become necrotic, become gangrenous, which will kill the mother in a fairly short time.

The late term abortion controversy is a classic strawman argument.

I think saying something against late term abortion and using the word "murder" makes Elon Musk seem that he is strongly against abortion. But he could be ok with all other forms of abortion though typical Republicans might not realise that. Anyway now he is very close with Trump who said great things about him (being a "super genius"?) in his victory speech.

 

[excreationist]

Trump calling Elon Musk a "super genius"

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I do not recall the year beyond that it was many years ago. No state.

It doesn't really matter.
For decades after the 1973 RvW decision, patients and their medical care staff decided what to do. That was just that.

Now we have a bunch of idiots in state government practicing medicine without a license, chasing political power and wealth in a "Crueler than Thou" competition.

I'm no fan of casual abortion but the shit show going on in the USA right now is an abomination!
Tom

"No state" meant that it wasn't in a state. This happened in Shanghai. Over there they're call provinces rather that states but Shanghai is a special case and isn't in a province.

 

[TomC]

I do not recall the year beyond that it was many years ago. No state.

It doesn't really matter.
For decades after the 1973 RvW decision, patients and their medical care staff decided what to do. That was just that.

Now we have a bunch of idiots in state government practicing medicine without a license, chasing political power and wealth in a "Crueler than Thou" competition.

I'm no fan of casual abortion but the shit show going on in the USA right now is an abomination!
Tom

"No state" meant that it wasn't in a state. This happened in Shanghai. Over there they're call provinces rather that states but Shanghai is a special case and isn't in a province.

It would have been helpful if you'd mentioned that your post had nothing to do with the USA.
Tom