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Loudly not saying "something", for those of us who pay attention to the ways people speak rather than merely the immediate words, is a statement to quietly say "not something".
Yeah, I'm not beholden to you in what I discuss or not.
You most certainly are not so beholden. I'm just pointing out that what you do not discuss given the opportunity is still making a particular statement.

You cannot avoid that.

Something, something, "crying about it"?
 
You most certainly are not so beholden. I'm just pointing out that what you do not discuss given the opportunity is still making a particular statement.

You cannot avoid that.

Something, something, "crying about it"?
Yes, what it says is "I don't care about this Pillow Guy nor contributing to the mass of voices ridiculing him".
 
You most certainly are not so beholden. I'm just pointing out that what you do not discuss given the opportunity is still making a particular statement.

You cannot avoid that.

Something, something, "crying about it"?
Yes, what it says is "I don't care about this Pillow Guy nor contributing to the mass of voices ridiculing him".
No, you do seem to care about the mass of voices ridiculing him. You care far more about that, it appears, as you are here, than you do about any of those other things I mentioned, as you are not there.
 
No, you do seem to care about the mass of voices ridiculing him. You care far more about that, it appears, as you are here, than you do about any of those other things I mentioned, as you are not there.
I think my calling out of Jimmy Higgins does more than my calling out of MyPillow, because I am on a message board that has Jimmy Higgins on it, and not a message board that has MyPillow on it.

And, in case you missed it, and it surely seems you have, Jimmy Higgins almost certainly had a group of people in mind that included me when he made his 'where are the people calling out his virtue signalling'.
 
No, you do seem to care about the mass of voices ridiculing him. You care far more about that, it appears, as you are here, than you do about any of those other things I mentioned, as you are not there.
I think my calling out of Jimmy Higgins does more than my calling out of MyPillow, because I am on a message board that has Jimmy Higgins on it, and not a message board that has MyPillow on it.

And, in case you missed it, and it surely seems you have, Jimmy Higgins almost certainly had a group of people in mind that included me when he made his 'where are the people calling out his virtue signalling'.
First, we don't know that Pillow Fucker doesn't post here.

You are the one who claimed
I don't care about this Pillow Guy nor contributing to the mass of voices ridiculing him
And then you claim
I think my calling out of Jimmy Higgins does more...
Which is... Well, it gets back to that old christian cannard of "liar, lunatic, Lord" bit, and we all know how well I tolerate Gods and Kings and such.
Jimmy Higgins almost certainly had a group of people in mind
And you claim to be unable to read minds, yet here you are! Wonders never cease!


You are here, caring enough to twist yourself out of shape to argue how much you aren't twisting yourself out of shape to inject yourself here rather than somewhere else more fucking useful, more worth ANYONE'S time.

Why am I here? Because I like wasting my time talking with folks and seeing how other people view such bankruptcy of ethics as Pillow Fucker's.

But I'm elsewhere, too.
 
Which is... Well, it gets back to that old christian cannard of "liar, lunatic, Lord" bit, and we all know how well I tolerate Gods and Kings and such.
I am not going to call out MyPillow guy because I don't care. I'm especially not going to do it because Jarhyn wants me to do it. I also don't care what Jarhyn thinks that says about me, because what Jarhyn thinks about me is approximately as important to me as what my houseplants thinks of me.
And you claim to be unable to read minds, yet here you are! Wonders never cease!
I didn't read his mind. But whether Jimmy had me in mind or not, he must have had someone(s) in mind who post on the political forums. And so, Jimmy used the opportunity to 'call out' those people, on a board that is already 90% leftists calling out and ridiculing the right.

Do you believe the board should be 99% leftists ridiculing the right instead?
But I'm elsewhere, too.
I've always suspected that.
 
Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.
You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.
Let get me this straight - you are virtue signaling about virtue signaling?
I'm saying I'm honest about when I call out virtue signalling, unlike Jimmy Higgins, who really wanted to call it out but instead attempted to cloak his actions.
Holy Cow, you are virtue signalling about virtue signaling. Perhaps you should change your name to Metavirtuesignal.

It really is getting harder and harder to take your responses seriously.
 
Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.
You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.
Let get me this straight - you are virtue signaling about virtue signaling?
I'm saying I'm honest about when I call out virtue signalling, unlike Jimmy Higgins, who really wanted to call it out but instead attempted to cloak his actions.
Holy Cow, you are virtue signalling about virtue signaling. Perhaps you should change your name to Metavirtuesignal.

It really is getting harder and harder to take your responses seriously.
Yes, I'm honest about what I am doing when I call out virtue signalling. Deal with it, or don't.
 
Yes, I'm honest about what I am doing when I call out virtue signalling. Deal with it, or don't.
The fact there was no virtue signalling on JH's part is what makes your position even more ridiculous. No one here is going to stop you from playing the clown.
 
By not, in a thread detailing and displaying this ludicrous display, even once acknowledging the ludicrous display and instead talking about Jimmy Higgins.
I am not beholden to call out 'Pillow Guy' even if I call out Jimmy Higgins for what you consider to be a lesser offence. laughing dog would call it whataboutism, but he never calls whataboutism for people on his side.
You are on a roll - this is almost as looney as your conspiracy of leftists using a girl as a prop.
You had two people to choose from: Pillow Fucker wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross, or someone saying "the flag and cross are a bit much".

You chose the latter to call out. Fuck, you could have called out both!

I would have serious doubts about the credentials of anyone who fails to understand how this is running interference for Pillow Fucker.
I am not beholden to you to call out people you want me to call out.

As for Pillow Guy, since I would wager about 90% of this board or more are already calling him out and would probably like to hurt him physically, I don't see the need to add my voice to the chorus.
Let me get this straight. Mr. Honesty and Virtue is conserving his energy by not calling out Mike "Batshit Lunatic" Liddell?

Dude, I want to thank you for your last couple of posts. I have not had such a good laugh for a couple weeks.
 
I guess I missed the update on what constitutes virtue signaling.

Last time I checked, it was a company putting a bit of a rainbow on their website to indicate that they were for LGBTQ rights. Or donating a portion of their proceeds to some moderate environmental organization. Or having inter-racial couples featured in their advertising or public service announcements as if to say "we're inclusive."

Is "buy my product because it owns the libs!!!" virtue signaling? Or is it just begging folks to overlook quality of product in order to send a purely political message? Seems like Mike is sending up a big 'ole...signal of sorts. The "virtue" of his pillows seems to be to have people lying down to sleep at night knowing that while the pillow may be uncomfortable, at least their purchase angered their liberal niece they argued with last Thanksgiving.

I dunno if that's enough of a sales pitch to cover for lawsuits that might easily bankrupt the company, but hey...let's see how that works out?
 
Yes, I'm honest about what I am doing when I call out virtue signalling. Deal with it, or don't.
The fact there was no virtue signalling on JH's part is what makes your position even more ridiculous. No one here is going to stop you from playing the clown.
I didn't say JH was virtue signalling. He was calling out virtue signalling, but attempting to cloak his calling out.
 
You are on a roll - this is almost as looney as your conspiracy of leftists using a girl as a prop.
You don't appear to know what the word 'conspiracy' means.

Let me get this straight. Mr. Honesty and Virtue is conserving his energy by not calling out Mike "Batshit Lunatic" Liddell?
No. I'm saying I don't give a shit about him and nor is there any dearth of people calling him out.

Dude, I want to thank you for your last couple of posts. I have not had such a good laugh for a couple weeks.
You're welcome, luv.
 
When I raise my right hand, I'm signaling my virtues. When I raise my left hand, I'm signaling my vices. When I raise both hands, it means I'm going to do something bad, but I'm very good at it. It just depends on my mood at any particular time.

Back to the thread:
Mike Lindell is a classic case of the con man who is also a sucker for a good scam. He attracts grifters who keep feeding him conspiracy theories. He's the spinster who has looted her 401K because the Bulgarian science teacher she met online has to repay the Bulgarian government for his free college education before he will be allowed to immigrate and they can be together. He's nothing like the Ghanaian engineer.

Conservatives aren't going to "call out" Mike Lindell for his falsehoods. It's not really fair to call them lies, because Lindell actually believes the scenario he spins. Half of the Trump base think that the other half is stupid and must be pacified with falsehoods to keep them on the Trump wagon. They can't admit that both Lindell and Trump are pathetic liars. As a result, honesty(a virtue) has lost all value. If fraud, theft and murder are necessary to win and keep power, it's an acceptable trade. They must keep telling their stupid half that they are victims of terrible forces which can't be overcome through democratic means. It's become a political bobsled. Once set in motion, it only goes downhill and can't be steered. This is how they got a couple thousand people to storm the Capitol on January 6. That much concentrated stupidity will find and outlet.

Both halves think they are the smart half.
 
Is it virtue signalling if the salesman believes in the symbols he's using to signal his virtue?
Of course it is.
Virtue signaling would include thecorporate effort to appear 'woke,' what with posting positive ads for Black History Month, but still paying shit wages.
And also people who truly believe but make damn sure you watch them believe. Kevin Sorbo, fir example.
Those who believe and think it makes them superior. PETA comes to mind.


I do not believe that the true believers who just do the right thing are virtue signaling. Opponents will try to dismiss actuzl virtue by saying it's a cynical attempt at gaining invisible society points. That it's just signaling, or what we used to call skin deep.

Mikey is a true believer who also wants to make sure everyone sees how truly he believes. And buys his pillows...
 
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I guess I missed the update on what constitutes virtue signaling.

Last time I checked, it was a company putting a bit of a rainbow on their website to indicate that they were for LGBTQ rights. Or donating a portion of their proceeds to some moderate environmental organization. Or having inter-racial couples featured in their advertising or public service announcements as if to say "we're inclusive."

Is "buy my product because it owns the libs!!!" virtue signaling? Or is it just begging folks to overlook quality of product in order to send a purely political message? Seems like Mike is sending up a big 'ole...signal of sorts. The "virtue" of his pillows seems to be to have people lying down to sleep at night knowing that while the pillow may be uncomfortable, at least their purchase angered their liberal niece they argued with last Thanksgiving.

I dunno if that's enough of a sales pitch to cover for lawsuits that might easily bankrupt the company, but hey...let's see how that works out?
"If you don't send me money to build my crystal cathedral then god is going to call me home." I think Lindell's appeal is along the same lines and aimed at exactly the same audience.
 
You are on a roll - this is almost as looney as your conspiracy of leftists using a girl as a prop.
You don't appear to know what the word 'conspiracy' means.
I get you would you feel that. But unlike Obi-wan, don't trust your feelings because history here shows they are often wrong.
Let me get this straight. Mr. Honesty and Virtue is conserving his energy by not calling out Mike "Batshit Lunatic" Liddell?
No. I'm saying I don't give a shit about him and nor is there any dearth of people calling him out.
And yet, here you are in a thread about someone whom you claim you don't give a shit about.
 
Yes, I'm honest about what I am doing when I call out virtue signalling. Deal with it, or don't.
The fact there was no virtue signalling on JH's part is what makes your position even more ridiculous. No one here is going to stop you from playing the clown.
I didn't say JH was virtue signalling. He was calling out virtue signalling, but attempting to cloak his calling out.
Sure Jan. And little green aliens are telepathically giving you these fantasies.
 
I guess I missed the update on what constitutes virtue signaling.
It is the cross lapel, last supper decoration set, huge Jesus/lion painting in background, folded flag.

Toni suggests he might actually believe that stuff. I think he is just virtue signaling to true American Christians.
 
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