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[Metaphor]

Meanwhile, zero claims of virtue signaling with a cross lapel, the folded flag in the background. And what the heck is with the giant Jesus/Lion painting? And a Last Supper model?

You mean, apart from the claim you just made above?

 

[Jarhyn]

Meanwhile, zero claims of virtue signaling with a cross lapel, the folded flag in the background. And what the heck is with the giant Jesus/Lion painting? And a Last Supper model?

You mean, apart from the claim you just made above?

Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.

 

[Elixir]

 

[Metaphor]

Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.

You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.

You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.

ROFLMFAO

 

[laughing dog]

Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.

You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.

Let get me this straight - you are virtue signaling about virtue signaling?

 

[ZiprHead]

Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.

You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.

Let get me this straight - you are virtue signaling about virtue signaling?

Yes, that's what it appears to be.

 

[Jarhyn]

Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.

You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.

Excepting the fact that generally what the left is doing is not virtue signalling. It's just having virtues and communicating about them, for the most part.

There's a big difference between putting up some pictures and then doing absolutely nothing that any of the subject of those pictures would even remotely approve of (Pillow Fucker), and speaking about what you wish and why and taking steps towards those goals as regards "having virtue".

It's just interesting to see the things you don't care about versus the things you do. It's kind of amusing.

You don't care about someone wrapping themselves in a flag and holding a cross, you don't even care about gay kids being denied any chance at feeling accepted in the one place that they are SUPPOSED to hear the truth that they are normal.

But no.

Here you are talking about pillow guy and defending him from being called out and the horrid oppression of being asked to take a vaccine so you don't get your neighbors and neighborhood visited by plague courtesy of being a more active vector.

What are you doing? Signalling strongly that you will reject any call to virtue at all? Seems like it.

 

[Metaphor]

Yes. Apart from that one. Like, should we have to be the ones pointing this out? It's somehow apparent that every time someone actually communicated their virtues on the left, they are virtue signalling and it's so important that this be pointed out...

But now, it's someone else who notices it, and your comment after he noticed was not "oh, yah, look at that, that's some crazy ridiculous virtue signalling" you chose this particular response.

You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.

Let get me this straight - you are virtue signaling about virtue signaling?

I'm saying I'm honest about when I call out virtue signalling, unlike Jimmy Higgins, who really wanted to call it out but instead attempted to cloak his actions.

 

[Metaphor]

Excepting the fact that generally what the left is doing is not virtue signalling. It's just having virtues and communicating about them, for the most part.

But that's precisely what every single person who virtue signals would say.

You don't care about someone wrapping themselves in a flag and holding a cross, you don't even care about gay kids being denied any chance at feeling accepted in the one place that they are SUPPOSED to hear the truth that they are normal.

What the everliving fuck are you talking about?

Here you are talking about pillow guy and defending him

What the everliving fuck are you talking about? How is calling out Jimmy Higgins defending pillow guy?

 

[Jarhyn]

You nor anyone has to point out anything. The left points out the virtue signalling of the right, and the right points out the virtue signalling of the left.

I can't speak for anyone else's behaviour, but when I call out somebody's virtue-signalling, I make it clear that I have noticed it and I am calling it out. I don't attempt to cloak my calling out as a 'why isn't anybody calling out this virtue signalling' JAQing off.

Let get me this straight - you are virtue signaling about virtue signaling?

I'm saying I'm honest about when I call out virtue signalling, unlike Jimmy Higgins, who really wanted to call it out but instead attempted to cloak his actions.

Is it really honest, when you haven't even actually acknowledged that this guy is virtue signalling, yet you jump to accusations about it when other people just manage to have some virtues that you apparently don't like seeing very much for whatever reason?

 

[Jarhyn]

What the everliving fuck are you talking about? How is calling out Jimmy Higgins defending pillow guy?

By not, in a thread detailing and displaying this ludicrous display, even once acknowledging the ludicrous display and instead talking about Jimmy Higgins.

You had two people to choose from: Pillow Fucker wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross, or someone saying "the flag and cross are a bit much".

You chose the latter to call out. Fuck, you could have called out both!

I would have serious doubts about the credentials of anyone who fails to understand how this is running interference for Pillow Fucker.

 

[Ford]

Sweet Jesus I just watched the ad. He's selling towels? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if you bought one, it wouldn't offer any protection against the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Always know where your towel is...unless it's from Lindell.

 

[Metaphor]

Is it really honest, when you haven't even actually acknowledged that this guy is virtue signalling, yet you jump to accusations about it when other people just manage to have some virtues that you apparently don't like seeing very much for whatever reason?

Yes, I'm honest when I call out virtue signallers, because I say 'X is virtue signalling'. What I don't do is say 'why haven't the usual suspects called out this virtue signalling? What hypocrites'. I was in error before: Jimmy Higgins not only wanted to call out a virtue signaller but cloak it, he also wanted to accuse people of hypocrisy for not calling it out using his little two-for-one comment.

But yes, Pillow Guy choosing his accoutrements to appeal to a certain demographic is virtue signalling. I thought it went without saying, which is why I did not respond to Jimmy with 'he isn't virtue signalling'.

 

[Jarhyn]

Is it really honest, when you haven't even actually acknowledged that this guy is virtue signalling, yet you jump to accusations about it when other people just manage to have some virtues that you apparently don't like seeing very much for whatever reason?

Yes, I'm honest when I call out virtue signallers, because I say 'X is virtue signalling'. What I don't do is say 'why haven't the usual suspects called out this virtue signalling? What hypocrites'. I was in error before: Jimmy Higgins not only wanted to call out a virtue signaller but cloak it, he also wanted to accuse people of hypocrisy for not calling it out using his little two-for-one comment.

But yes, Pillow Guy choosing his accoutrements to appeal to a certain demographic is virtue signalling. I thought it went without saying, which is why I did not respond to Jimmy with 'he isn't virtue signalling'.

This is a discussion board. It is here for discussing. We see what you DO discuss every day.

For the most part it comes down to framing of the issue.

Loudly not saying "something", for those of us who pay attention to the ways people speak rather than merely the immediate words, is a statement to quietly say "not something".

 

[Toni]

Is it virtue signalling if the salesman believes in the symbols he's using to signal his virtue?

I think that Lindell believes he believes in these things. More importantly, he believes his potential customers believe in these things and that they will be more inclined to purchase something they think any God fearing flag loving Amurigun who has such stuff hanging on his walls would want or sell.

As for MyPillows? Before Lindell was a Trumpsucker and before Trump's presidential ambitions were public--a few years before, I tried a MyPillow. A couple of people at work thought they were great.

It was awful. The fill was comprised, so far as I could tell. of random sized chunks of foam encased in an ok-enough pillow covering. I...lasted one night. It was an awful night's sleep but ok, I knew I wasn't going to use it again. Half way through the day, I began to get a crick in my neck that increased over a couple of hours to a very significant amount of pain--more than my OTC headache pills would touch. By the end of my shift, I hurt enough to be extremely cranky and couldn't wait to get home to destroy that pillow. Then someone I worked with piped up that he had the same issue when he tried one. Now he tells me. Hubby pointed out if I destroyed the pillow, it would no longer be refundable. He was nice enough to return it for me.

Politics aside, I'd rather sleep on an old shoe than another MyPillow.

 

[Metaphor]

By not, in a thread detailing and displaying this ludicrous display, even once acknowledging the ludicrous display and instead talking about Jimmy Higgins.

I am not beholden to call out 'Pillow Guy' even if I call out Jimmy Higgins for what you consider to be a lesser offence. laughing dog would call it whataboutism, but he never calls whataboutism for people on his side.

You had two people to choose from: Pillow Fucker wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross, or someone saying "the flag and cross are a bit much".

You chose the latter to call out. Fuck, you could have called out both!

I would have serious doubts about the credentials of anyone who fails to understand how this is running interference for Pillow Fucker.

I am not beholden to you to call out people you want me to call out.

As for Pillow Guy, since I would wager about 90% of this board or more are already calling him out and would probably like to hurt him physically, I don't see the need to add my voice to the chorus.

I don't know what 'running interference' is, but I doubt calling out a board member is 'running interference' for a person none of us will ever meet and who will never read anything on this board himself.

 

[Metaphor]

Loudly not saying "something", for those of us who pay attention to the ways people speak rather than merely the immediate words, is a statement to quietly say "not something".

Yeah, I'm not beholden to you in what I discuss or not. Cry about it.

 

[Metaphor]

Is it virtue signalling if the salesman believes in the symbols he's using to signal his virtue?

It depends. I would say a virtue signal (the way I use the term) is using the accoutrements of a particular ideology (slogans like 'all cops are bastards', logos like the pride colours, symbols like the American Flag) if the primary reason you are doing it is to flaunt your good nature. One can still believe in the things that are being signalled as a virtue. In fact, the bible contains a story about virtue signalling with public prayer.

 

[Toni]

Is it virtue signalling if the salesman believes in the symbols he's using to signal his virtue?

It depends. I would say a virtue signal (the way I use the term) is using the accoutrements of a particular ideology (slogans like 'all cops are bastards', logos like the pride colours, symbols like the American Flag) if the primary reason you are doing it is to flaunt your good nature. One can still believe in the things that are being signalled as a virtue. In fact, the bible contains a story about virtue signalling with public prayer.

I know that part of the bible.

Re: Liddell: I think he thinks he believes in all of those little virtue signals. AND I think he thinks it's good marketing strategy. I think that most people who buy his products for their own use buy or don't buy based on whether or not they think the product will be any good. And keep or return accordingly.