Impeaching President Trump?

[Jimmy Higgins]

I honestly can't take a statement like that seriously and must conclude you are just playing a heel.

You forget--those who are polled include the Faux Noise watchers. The right only has Faux Noise, the left has several news sources to dilute the vote. Thus he's probably correct.

Their statement, and how it was made seemed a bit too over the top and trying to say things to rile up the board.

 

[Elixir]

Of ignorant, poorly educated and easily manipulated white people who thought a reality TV celebrity conman would bring coal back.

He's been doing very well

Yeah, The Wall is almost finished! And He repealed Obamacare, and the Democrats are killing children and separating families at the southern border while the President gives jobs to perfectly legal immigrants and gets persecuted for it! Plus - those TAX BREAKS! And the Nukuler DEALS. Korea is disarmed, so is Iran (or will be by the time this news cycle turns over) we're winning the trade war with China and the Democrat traitors should be investigating Hillary instead of worrying about the erosion of the Constitution! Plus, over 100 meetings of campaign personnel with Russians during the campaign had nothing to do with collusion and it isn't a crime anyway and asking them to forward stolen information is perfectly legal and foreign governments are allowed to help whoever they want and if they're not they should be... and all those supposed right wing extremists who are responsible for most of the mass shootings in the US since King Donald took the throne, are actually the 13 angry Democrats, and and and... climate change is a Chinese hoax!
SPACE FORCE!
And Coal Jobs,Coal Jobs,Coal Jobs!

Yeah, he's doing great, Fantastic. Amazing, incredible.
If you're some special kind of stoopid!

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Derail posts about Rashia Tlaib moved to:

https://talkfreethought.org/showthread.php?18509&p=676581#post676581

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Dems are shifting, pretty much based on the White House refusing to deal with the House.

The fact is, in plain sight, in the public domain, this president is obstructing justice and he's engaged in a cover-up. And that could be an impeachable offense

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Of ignorant, poorly educated and easily manipulated white people who thought a reality TV celebrity conman would bring coal back.

He's been doing very well

If you're already wealthy, I guess, but not if you're one of the millions of workers that supposedly voted for him. The problem is that he's been riding the coattails of the recovery that began under Obama and is now ebbing into his disastrous trade policies.

Few people understand that things take time to really take hold. He's thrown some rocks and the initial ripples are all forecasted to be utterly devastating for farmers and, generally, all of us.

They said "Wait for the Mueller report. It'll prove it." It comes out there was no collusion and they still scream "There was collusion! I know it! I just know it!"

I guess if you keep trying to repeat bullshit it will turn into grass, but it usually doesn't work that way.

In spite of all this hatred, he's kept his cool and got unemployment levels down.

Again, no he has not:

Total nonfarm employment grew by nearly 4.6 million during the president’s first 23 months in office, according to the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That continued an unbroken chain of monthly gains in total employment that started eight years earlier, in October 2010.

December saw an unusually large gain of 312,000, bringing the average monthly gain under Trump to 199,000. But that’s still less than the average monthly gain of 217,000 during Obama’s second term.
...
The unemployment rate, which was well below the historical norm when Trump took office, has continued to fall even lower.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics now figures the rate was 4.7 percent when he was sworn in. Newly revised seasonal adjustment factors introduced this month put the rate even lower than the 4.8 percent BLS had been reporting. The most recent rate, for December, is 3.9 percent.

And it had been down to 3.7 percent earlier in 2018. That was the lowest since December 1969.

The historical norm is 5.6 percent, which is the median monthly rate for all the months since the start of 1948.

Another reason employment growth has slowed is a worsening shortage of qualified workers.

The number of unfilled job openings hit a new record of nearly 7.3 million as of the last business day in August — which was the most in the 18 years the Bureau of Labor Statistics has been tracking this figure. It has declined a bit since then, but openings still numbered nearly 6.9 million as of the last day in November, the most recent figure available.

That’s a gain of 1.4 million unfilled job openings — or 26.6 percent — since Trump took office. The number of job openings has exceeded the number of unemployed people looking for work since March of last year.

Labor Force Participation — Despite the abundance of jobs, the labor force participation rate — which went down 2.8 percentage points during the Obama years — has remained little changed under Trump.

The labor force participation rate is the portion of the entire civilian population age 16 and older that is either employed or currently looking for work in the last four weeks. Republicans often criticized Obama for the decline during his time, even though it was due mostly to the post-World War II baby boomers reaching retirement age, and other demographic factors beyond the control of any president.

Since Trump took office, the rate has fluctuated in a narrow range between 63.1 percent and 62.7 percent. It was 63.1 percent in December — up 0.2 percentage points from where it was the month Trump took office.

Iow, it ain't anything Trump has done. Again, the effects of his policies will start to be felt going forward, such as the effects of the China trade war, which will most likely impact manufacturing jobs, which:

Manufacturing jobs increased under Trump, even faster than total employment.

The number rose by 473,000 between Trump’s inauguration and December. That followed a net decrease of 192,000 under Obama.

The increase since January 2017 amounts to 3.8 percent, compared with the 3.1 percent increase in overall employment. The number of manufacturing jobs is still 904,000 below where it was in December 2007, at the start of the Great Recession.

So that increase is likely to start decreasing rapidly according to the IMF:

The United States and China would see “sizable” losses in manufacturing as capacity moves toward Mexico, Canada, and East Asia if tariffs were hiked to 25 percent on all goods flowing between the two countries, the IMF said in its April World Economic Outlook.

That would escalate a tit-for-tat tariff battle between the two economic giants that has gripped global financial markets since mid-2018. The United States already has tariffs of 25 percent on $50 billion worth of Chinese goods and levies of 10 percent on another $200 billion. China has retaliated with duties on U.S. products, including key agricultural crops.

And it wouldn't stop there, of course, which means we won't really start seeing the effects of his occupation until well into the next administration in 2020.

The man lost over a billion dollars in a decade proving that he's actually a "rags to riches" story

No, he's a "daddy's riches and my criminal activities have always bailed me out" story.

It''s hard to find a stronger President.

I don't know which is more disturbing about such a profoundly ignorant assertion; that you actually might believe it or that you think asserting it just makes it so.

Obama had 8 years with no one breathing down his neck

Umm, he had nothing but the Republicans in Congress stopping every single breath he ever took and yet still managed to give us the economy that Trump is desperately trying to take credit for, but you know this of course, which is why you're trying to revise history. The question is, again, who are trying to revise it for? No intelligent person would buy such nonsense, so you're preaching to a choir of a slim minority that grows more and more irrelevant with each passing lie.

Have fun with that.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I honestly can't take a statement like that seriously and must conclude you are just playing a heel.

You forget--those who are polled include the Faux Noise watchers. The right only has Faux Noise, the left has several news sources to dilute the vote. Thus he's probably correct.

Their statement, and how it was made seemed a bit too over the top and trying to say things to rile up the board.

I don't think it's anything more than the usual victim of Faux propaganda.

 

[Half-Life]

If you're already wealthy, I guess, but not if you're one of the millions of workers that supposedly voted for him. The problem is that he's been riding the coattails of the recovery that began under Obama and is now ebbing into his disastrous trade policies.

Few people understand that things take time to really take hold. He's thrown some rocks and the initial ripples are all forecasted to be utterly devastating for farmers and, generally, all of us.

They said "Wait for the Mueller report. It'll prove it." It comes out there was no collusion and they still scream "There was collusion! I know it! I just know it!"

I guess if you keep trying to repeat bullshit it will turn into grass, but it usually doesn't work that way.

In spite of all this hatred, he's kept his cool and got unemployment levels down.

Again, no he has not:

Total nonfarm employment grew by nearly 4.6 million during the president’s first 23 months in office, according to the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That continued an unbroken chain of monthly gains in total employment that started eight years earlier, in October 2010.

December saw an unusually large gain of 312,000, bringing the average monthly gain under Trump to 199,000. But that’s still less than the average monthly gain of 217,000 during Obama’s second term.
...
The unemployment rate, which was well below the historical norm when Trump took office, has continued to fall even lower.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics now figures the rate was 4.7 percent when he was sworn in. Newly revised seasonal adjustment factors introduced this month put the rate even lower than the 4.8 percent BLS had been reporting. The most recent rate, for December, is 3.9 percent.

And it had been down to 3.7 percent earlier in 2018. That was the lowest since December 1969.

The historical norm is 5.6 percent, which is the median monthly rate for all the months since the start of 1948.

Another reason employment growth has slowed is a worsening shortage of qualified workers.

The number of unfilled job openings hit a new record of nearly 7.3 million as of the last business day in August — which was the most in the 18 years the Bureau of Labor Statistics has been tracking this figure. It has declined a bit since then, but openings still numbered nearly 6.9 million as of the last day in November, the most recent figure available.

That’s a gain of 1.4 million unfilled job openings — or 26.6 percent — since Trump took office. The number of job openings has exceeded the number of unemployed people looking for work since March of last year.

Labor Force Participation — Despite the abundance of jobs, the labor force participation rate — which went down 2.8 percentage points during the Obama years — has remained little changed under Trump.

The labor force participation rate is the portion of the entire civilian population age 16 and older that is either employed or currently looking for work in the last four weeks. Republicans often criticized Obama for the decline during his time, even though it was due mostly to the post-World War II baby boomers reaching retirement age, and other demographic factors beyond the control of any president.

Since Trump took office, the rate has fluctuated in a narrow range between 63.1 percent and 62.7 percent. It was 63.1 percent in December — up 0.2 percentage points from where it was the month Trump took office.

Iow, it ain't anything Trump has done. Again, the effects of his policies will start to be felt going forward, such as the effects of the China trade war, which will most likely impact manufacturing jobs, which:

Manufacturing jobs increased under Trump, even faster than total employment.

The number rose by 473,000 between Trump’s inauguration and December. That followed a net decrease of 192,000 under Obama.

The increase since January 2017 amounts to 3.8 percent, compared with the 3.1 percent increase in overall employment. The number of manufacturing jobs is still 904,000 below where it was in December 2007, at the start of the Great Recession.

So that increase is likely to start decreasing rapidly according to the IMF:

The United States and China would see “sizable” losses in manufacturing as capacity moves toward Mexico, Canada, and East Asia if tariffs were hiked to 25 percent on all goods flowing between the two countries, the IMF said in its April World Economic Outlook.

That would escalate a tit-for-tat tariff battle between the two economic giants that has gripped global financial markets since mid-2018. The United States already has tariffs of 25 percent on $50 billion worth of Chinese goods and levies of 10 percent on another $200 billion. China has retaliated with duties on U.S. products, including key agricultural crops.

And it wouldn't stop there, of course, which means we won't really start seeing the effects of his occupation until well into the next administration in 2020.

The man lost over a billion dollars in a decade proving that he's actually a "rags to riches" story

No, he's a "daddy's riches and my criminal activities have always bailed me out" story.

It''s hard to find a stronger President.

I don't know which is more disturbing about such a profoundly ignorant assertion; that you actually might believe it or that you think asserting it just makes it so.

Obama had 8 years with no one breathing down his neck

Umm, he had nothing but the Republicans in Congress stopping every single breath he ever took and yet still managed to give us the economy that Trump is desperately trying to take credit for, but you know this of course, which is why you're trying to revise history. The question is, again, who are trying to revise it for? No intelligent person would buy such nonsense, so you're preaching to a choir of a slim minority that grows more and more irrelevant with each passing lie.

Have fun with that.

Did you know that before Trump took office Obama told him he was gonna need a magic wand to turn the economy around? Obama saw no upswing. Now, the economy is better and the left is crediting Obama.

There's a joke in right-wing circles going around now that says, "The Obama magic wand economic boom rolls on!"

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Did you know

That you don't know how to use google? From Factcheck.org's Trump’s Bungled Twitter Attack on Obama:

The president and former president have exchanged some words lately about who is responsible for the post-recession economic recovery. It started when Obama, in remarks on Sept. 7 in Illinois, said, “let’s just remember when this recovery started.”

“I mean I’m glad it’s continued, but when you hear about this economic miracle that’s been going on, when the job numbers come out, monthly job numbers, and suddenly Republicans are saying it’s a miracle,” Obama said. “I have to kind of remind them, actually, those job numbers are the same as they were in 2015 and 2016.”

Three days later, Trump tweeted a quote that he claimed a skeptical Obama made about the growth in the gross domestic product.



We could not find that quote or any quote of Obama using the term “magic wand” to describe Trump’s ability to grow the economy by 4 percent.

We did find that Obama used the term “magic wand” at a June 1, 2016, “PBS NewsHour” town hall meeting in Indiana. But Obama was referring to Trump’s promise to bring back “some of those jobs of the past.” Instead, Obama said, the next president needed to focus on job training for “jobs that are coming in now.”
...
As for the GDP, Trump’s tweet was referring to the recent Bureau of Economic Analysis estimate that the real GDP increased at an annualized rate of 4.2 percent in the second quarter of 2018. That was the largest increase since the third quarter of 2014, when it grew at an annualized rate of 4.9 percent.
...
In a separate tweet the same day, Trump also wrongly claimed, “The GDP Rate (4.2%) is higher than the Unemployment Rate (3.9%) for the first time in over 100 years!” The White House later acknowledged the error, and said the president should have said it hasn’t happened in 10 years. (Actually, it last happened 12 years ago.)
...
The president’s tweet caught the attention of Justin Wolfers, a professor of economics and public policy at the University of Michigan, who did an analysis and found that while the president’s figures for the GDP and unemployment rate were accurate, the president was way off in claiming that it was the first time in a century that the quarterly GDP rate was higher than the unemployment rate.

In two tweets, Wolfers listed the 62 times that has happened going back to 1948, most recently in the first quarter of 2006.

 

[KeepTalking]

If you're already wealthy, I guess, but not if you're one of the millions of workers that supposedly voted for him. The problem is that he's been riding the coattails of the recovery that began under Obama and is now ebbing into his disastrous trade policies.

Few people understand that things take time to really take hold. He's thrown some rocks and the initial ripples are all forecasted to be utterly devastating for farmers and, generally, all of us.



I guess if you keep trying to repeat bullshit it will turn into grass, but it usually doesn't work that way.



Again, no he has not:

Total nonfarm employment grew by nearly 4.6 million during the president’s first 23 months in office, according to the most recent figures available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That continued an unbroken chain of monthly gains in total employment that started eight years earlier, in October 2010.

December saw an unusually large gain of 312,000, bringing the average monthly gain under Trump to 199,000. But that’s still less than the average monthly gain of 217,000 during Obama’s second term.
...
The unemployment rate, which was well below the historical norm when Trump took office, has continued to fall even lower.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics now figures the rate was 4.7 percent when he was sworn in. Newly revised seasonal adjustment factors introduced this month put the rate even lower than the 4.8 percent BLS had been reporting. The most recent rate, for December, is 3.9 percent.

And it had been down to 3.7 percent earlier in 2018. That was the lowest since December 1969.

The historical norm is 5.6 percent, which is the median monthly rate for all the months since the start of 1948.

Another reason employment growth has slowed is a worsening shortage of qualified workers.

The number of unfilled job openings hit a new record of nearly 7.3 million as of the last business day in August — which was the most in the 18 years the Bureau of Labor Statistics has been tracking this figure. It has declined a bit since then, but openings still numbered nearly 6.9 million as of the last day in November, the most recent figure available.

That’s a gain of 1.4 million unfilled job openings — or 26.6 percent — since Trump took office. The number of job openings has exceeded the number of unemployed people looking for work since March of last year.

Labor Force Participation — Despite the abundance of jobs, the labor force participation rate — which went down 2.8 percentage points during the Obama years — has remained little changed under Trump.

The labor force participation rate is the portion of the entire civilian population age 16 and older that is either employed or currently looking for work in the last four weeks. Republicans often criticized Obama for the decline during his time, even though it was due mostly to the post-World War II baby boomers reaching retirement age, and other demographic factors beyond the control of any president.

Since Trump took office, the rate has fluctuated in a narrow range between 63.1 percent and 62.7 percent. It was 63.1 percent in December — up 0.2 percentage points from where it was the month Trump took office.

Iow, it ain't anything Trump has done. Again, the effects of his policies will start to be felt going forward, such as the effects of the China trade war, which will most likely impact manufacturing jobs, which:

Manufacturing jobs increased under Trump, even faster than total employment.

The number rose by 473,000 between Trump’s inauguration and December. That followed a net decrease of 192,000 under Obama.

The increase since January 2017 amounts to 3.8 percent, compared with the 3.1 percent increase in overall employment. The number of manufacturing jobs is still 904,000 below where it was in December 2007, at the start of the Great Recession.

So that increase is likely to start decreasing rapidly according to the IMF:

The United States and China would see “sizable” losses in manufacturing as capacity moves toward Mexico, Canada, and East Asia if tariffs were hiked to 25 percent on all goods flowing between the two countries, the IMF said in its April World Economic Outlook.

That would escalate a tit-for-tat tariff battle between the two economic giants that has gripped global financial markets since mid-2018. The United States already has tariffs of 25 percent on $50 billion worth of Chinese goods and levies of 10 percent on another $200 billion. China has retaliated with duties on U.S. products, including key agricultural crops.

And it wouldn't stop there, of course, which means we won't really start seeing the effects of his occupation until well into the next administration in 2020.

The man lost over a billion dollars in a decade proving that he's actually a "rags to riches" story

No, he's a "daddy's riches and my criminal activities have always bailed me out" story.

It''s hard to find a stronger President.

I don't know which is more disturbing about such a profoundly ignorant assertion; that you actually might believe it or that you think asserting it just makes it so.

Obama had 8 years with no one breathing down his neck

Umm, he had nothing but the Republicans in Congress stopping every single breath he ever took and yet still managed to give us the economy that Trump is desperately trying to take credit for, but you know this of course, which is why you're trying to revise history. The question is, again, who are trying to revise it for? No intelligent person would buy such nonsense, so you're preaching to a choir of a slim minority that grows more and more irrelevant with each passing lie.

Have fun with that.

Did you know that before Trump took office Obama told him he was gonna need a magic wand to turn the economy around? Obama saw no upswing. Now, the economy is better and the left is crediting Obama.

There's a joke in right-wing circles going around now that says, "The Obama magic wand economic boom rolls on!"

You are incorrect in your characterization of the "magic wand" observation from Obama. Obama was referencing Trump's promise to bring back manufacturing jobs, and this is the exact quote from May 2016:

“Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There’s no answer to it. [Trump] just says, 'Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer.”

It had nothing to do with the economy in general, it specifically had to do with manufacturing jobs, and the fact that Trump had presented no plan for bringing them back (or anything else he was promising to do, really). But you and your far right buddies will just go ahead laughing about it in ignorance, because that is what you do.

 

[Elixir]

In a separate tweet the same day, Trump also wrongly claimed, “The GDP Rate (4.2%) is higher than the Unemployment Rate (3.9%) for the first time in over 100 years!” The White House later acknowledged the error, and said the president should have said it hasn’t happened in 10 years. (Actually, it last happened 12 years ago.)

That's a pretty sobering thought right there... if you happen to recall what came next.

 

[PyramidHead]

Time is a flat circle:

Pelosi: Bush Impeachment `Off the Table’

“Democrats pledge civility and bipartisanship in the conduct of the work here and we pledge partnerships with Congress and the Republicans in Congress, and the president — not partisanship.”

She also extended an olive branch to Bush on the war in Iraq, saying she plans to work with him on a new plan but will not support the current strategy and supports beginning redeployment of troops by the end of the year.

Pelosi also said she supports the idea of a bipartisan summit on the war.

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "People often ask questions about impeachment (“Are you going to impeach?“), but treat it as though it’s one, singular action. Impeachment is a process. Some people may support pursuing some parts of that process, & not others. Read Rep. @davidcicilline’s thread to learn more … https://t.co/2HOPaZbnYH"

David Cicilline on Twitter: "Impeachment 101"

David Cicilline on Twitter: "1. Opening an Impeachment Inquiry: A formal opening of the process to consider whether the President has committed high crimes and misdemeanors."

David Cicilline on Twitter: "2. Investigation: Once an inquiry has been opened, evidence is gathered, witnesses are called and documents reviewed."

David Cicilline on Twitter: "3. Articles of Impeachment: Once the Judiciary Committee completes its investigation, it may vote for Articles of Impeachment if the evidence supports the finding that the President has committed high crimes and misdemeanors. If not, it will decline to file such charges."

David Cicilline on Twitter: "4. House Floor Vote on Impeachment: If Articles of Impeachment are filed, the House will be asked to vote on these articles. Passage results in the official charging of the President for having committed high crimes and misdemeanors."

David Cicilline on Twitter: "5. Senate Trial Even once impeached by the House, the President is not removed from office, until such time as he or she is convicted by the Senate on a 2/3 vote of its members."

David Cicilline on Twitter: "In summary: 1. Opening Impeachment Inquiry 2. Investigation and Evidence Gathering 3. Consideration of Articles of Impeachment by Judiciary Committee 4. Consideration of Articles of Impeachment by Full House 5. Trial by Senate"

 

[Half-Life]

Keep in mind on the Apprentice over 15 years ago Trump said something like, "I had a bad decade. I lost over a billion dollars. But, I expect to turn it around."

So, these "losses" that the Dems were hooting and hollering over were known for years from his own mouth. Nobody was trying to hide anything. But hey, everyone loved Trump before he was President. Then, he becomes President and he started being called vile things. Ever see his old appearances on late night talk shows? No one yelled at the man calling him vile things. They all loved him.

 

[ZiprHead]

Keep in mind on the Apprentice over 15 years ago Trump said something like, "I had a bad decade. I lost over a billion dollars. But, I expect to turn it around."

So, these "losses" that the Dems were hooting and hollering over were known for years from his own mouth. Nobody was trying to hide anything. But hey, everyone loved Trump before he was President. Then, he becomes President and he started being called vile things. Ever see his old appearances on late night talk shows? No one yelled at the man calling him vile things. They all loved him.

The people of New York certainly knew him and they hated him.

Trump is the one trying to hide everything. He got Barr and Mnuchin running blockage for him. He hides his tax returns, he hides his school transcripts, he hides his medical reports, he's trying to hide his banking. He tried to hide his relationships with the porn star and the Playboy model. He has lied numerous times about his relationship with Russians and Putin himself. He lied about trying to get a Trump Tower built in Moscow.

You really cannot remain this obtuse and expect to be taken seriously.

 

[Half-Life]

Keep in mind on the Apprentice over 15 years ago Trump said something like, "I had a bad decade. I lost over a billion dollars. But, I expect to turn it around."

So, these "losses" that the Dems were hooting and hollering over were known for years from his own mouth. Nobody was trying to hide anything. But hey, everyone loved Trump before he was President. Then, he becomes President and he started being called vile things. Ever see his old appearances on late night talk shows? No one yelled at the man calling him vile things. They all loved him.

The people of New York certainly knew him and they hated him.

Trump is the one trying to hide everything. He got Barr and Mnuchin running blockage for him. He hides his tax returns, he hides his school transcripts, he hides his medical reports, he's trying to hide his banking. He tried to hide his relationships with the porn star and the Playboy model. He has lied numerous times about his relationship with Russians and Putin himself. He lied about trying to get a Trump Tower built in Moscow.

You really cannot remain this obtuse and expect to be taken seriously.

Please kindly tell me every crime that Trump is being charged with.

Shouting, "I just know he did something! I just know it!" is insanity, not rationality.

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Keep in mind on the Apprentice over 15 years ago Trump said something like, "I had a bad decade. I lost over a billion dollars. But, I expect to turn it around."

“Something like” but not like that. What he actually said was:

Trump, 2004: “It wasn’t always so easy. About 13 years ago, I was seriously in trouble. I was billions of dollars in debt.”

Billions. Plural.

But then he ALSO said:

President Trump dismissed a report indicating that he lost $1.17 billion between 1985 to 1994, claiming it was “highly inaccurate.”

The New York Times reported on Tuesday that Trump lost $46.1 million in 1985 primarily from his casinos, hotels, and retail space in apartment buildings. Additionally, the Times reports that IRS transcripts indicate he lost more money than any other taxpayer and lost a total of $517.6 million in 1990 and 1991.

Additionally, the report revealed he didn’t pay income taxes for eight years because of his financial loss.
...
“You always wanted to show losses for tax purposes....almost all real estate developers did - and often re-negotiate with banks, it was sport. Additionally, the very old information put out is a highly inaccurate Fake News hit job!” Trump tweeted.
...
Trump’s attorney Charles Harder has already rejected the findings of the Times’ report, and said it is “demonstrably false.” He said the information “about the president’s tax returns and business from 30 years ago are highly inaccurate.”

So, which Trump do we believe? 2004’s “I was billions of dollars in debt” or 2019’s “the very old information put out is a highly inaccurate Fake News hit job!”?

I guess it means he really lost much much more than $1.2 billion, but hey, when Daddy bails you out, what are billions of dollars anyway, right?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Keep in mind on the Apprentice over 15 years ago Trump said something like, "I had a bad decade. I lost over a billion dollars. But, I expect to turn it around."

So, these "losses" that the Dems were hooting and hollering over were known for years from his own mouth. Nobody was trying to hide anything. But hey, everyone loved Trump before he was President. Then, he becomes President and he started being called vile things. Ever see his old appearances on late night talk shows? No one yelled at the man calling him vile things. They all loved him.

The people of New York certainly knew him and they hated him.

Trump is the one trying to hide everything. He got Barr and Mnuchin running blockage for him. He hides his tax returns, he hides his school transcripts, he hides his medical reports, he's trying to hide his banking. He tried to hide his relationships with the porn star and the Playboy model. He has lied numerous times about his relationship with Russians and Putin himself. He lied about trying to get a Trump Tower built in Moscow.

You really cannot remain this obtuse and expect to be taken seriously.

Please kindly tell me every crime that Trump is being charged with.

Shouting, "I just know he did something! I just know it!" is insanity, not rationality.

You DO understand that impeachment is not prosecution for criminal acts, right? It's a political process. He could be impeached for his hairdo if enough people believed it reflected poorly on the office he holds, and he needs to not hold that office anymore.
He could be imoeached for any lawsuit he has ever been sued for. He could be impeached for, for example, being barred from running a charity as a for-profit entrrrprise. He could be impeached for Trump University. He could be impeached for being sued by the DOJ in the70's for racial discrimination, there's no statute of limitations.

He also COULD Be impeached for "I just know he did something! I just know it!" If enough of Congress became convinced it was damaging the office (and more importantly, damaging their election prospects for being associated with him). It's all about the votes, and only the votes.

 

[ZiprHead]

He also COULD Be impeached for "I just know he did something! I just know it!" If enough of Congress became convinced it was damaging the office (and more importantly, damaging their election prospects for being associated with him). It's all about the votes, and only the votes.

Like continuously and incessantly lying to his constituents.

Half Life, I know you cannot defend that.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Please kindly tell me every crime that Trump is being charged with.

Shouting, "I just know he did something! I just know it!" is insanity, not rationality.

DOJ told Mueller he couldn't indict His Flatulence. That's the only reason he isn't facing charges right now, the report is damning.