In Texas, whether you have a miscarriage or an abortion, they'd force you to have a burial

[phands]

Yet more hideousness from religiturds....

[FONT=&quot]Less than a month after Justice Anthony Kennedy’s retirement announcement and Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, Roe v. Wade’s already a hot topic in courtrooms dealing with abortion-adjacent cases. In the legal battle over a Texas fetal burial law that went to trial on Monday, the federal district judge introduced the case by acknowledging the emotional stakes involved—and promising he’ll decide the case based on “current legal precedent, not potential future rulings.” Lest you think that’s unrelated, Judge David Ezra cited the Supreme Court vacancy and “speculation” about Roe’s fate.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It’s the second time Texas has tried to implement a fetal burial law. The first effort, via the Health and Human Services Commission, came in 2016. Another district court judge, Sam Sparks, struck that rule in 2017. He concluded it was vague, caused undue burden on women, and had “high potential” for irreparable harm.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This second attempt, an actual state law—called Senate Bill 8—requires health clinics and hospitals to bury or cremate fetal tissue from ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, and abortions. Judge Ezra agreed to block February implementation of the law on the basis of the 2017 ruling and recognition that abortion rights proponents arguments were sound.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]There’s an obvious, overarching problem: The law treats everything from a blastocyst or embryo to a fetus as a person. It’s an overt effort to deter women from seeking abortion—and to sneakily establish embryos as legal entities deserving of the same treatment as people, a.k.a. an effort to entrench the notion of embryonic personhood.[/FONT]

 

[Keith&Co.]

If it were at all applicable, I'd convert to a religion that leaves their dead out for the holy vultures to pick clean, then write to my state rep and ask if there was a state sponsored place for fetus tissue to lay out, or if i had to erect my own aerie...

 

[phands]

If it were at all applicable, I'd convert to a religion that leaves their dead out for the holy vultures to pick clean, then write to my state rep and ask if there was a state sponsored place for fetus tissue to lay out, or if i had to erect my own aerie...

You're in luck! But you may have to go to Tibet or India or become a zoroastrian for a "sky burial".

 

[Bronzeage]

If it were at all applicable, I'd convert to a religion that leaves their dead out for the holy vultures to pick clean, then write to my state rep and ask if there was a state sponsored place for fetus tissue to lay out, or if i had to erect my own aerie...

A good suggestion, but this will require a state board if ex-carnation to regulate things. We can't have people hanging their dead relatives on the fence, just to dodge a funeral bill.

 

[Keith&Co.]

If it were at all applicable, I'd convert to a religion that leaves their dead out for the holy vultures to pick clean, then write to my state rep and ask if there was a state sponsored place for fetus tissue to lay out, or if i had to erect my own aerie...

A good suggestion, but this will require a state board if ex-carnation to regulate things. We can't have people hanging their dead relatives on the fence, just to dodge a funeral bill.

I have no intention of dodging any legal fees.

I just want Texas to acknowledge my legal freedom and vulture of conscience...
And maybe a lawn sign, miscarried fetus at top of pole, do not interfere with holy carrion scavengers (vultures, not theists)

 

[Bronzeage]

If it were at all applicable, I'd convert to a religion that leaves their dead out for the holy vultures to pick clean, then write to my state rep and ask if there was a state sponsored place for fetus tissue to lay out, or if i had to erect my own aerie...

A good suggestion, but this will require a state board if ex-carnation to regulate things. We can't have people hanging their dead relatives on the fence, just to dodge a funeral bill.

I have no intention of dodging any legal fees.

I just want Texas to acknowledge my legal freedom and vulture of conscience...
And maybe a lawn sign, miscarried fetus at top of pole, do not interfere with holy carrion scavengers (vultures, not theists)

There will be regulations about the height of the platform, it's structure and related features. After all, when you're expecting sacred vultures, you don't want a pack of heretical coyotes dragging grandma down the street.

 

[starwater]

But eagles should be allowed to feast on fetuses because they are the sacred American symbol.

 

[ruby sparks]

Exactly. For similar reasons, I've often thought there should be funerals, in America at least, for Bald Eagle miscarriages. Ditto cows in India, beavers in Canada and kangaroos in Australia.

 

[Lion IRC]

...it’s an overt effort to deter women from seeking abortion—and to establish embryos as legal entities deserving of the same treatment as people.

Excellent.
Why shouldn't we make overt efforts to stop;
- drinking while pregnant
- gender specific abortion
- medical malpractice that harms unborn babies
- commercial fetus farming

 

[RavenSky]

...it’s an overt effort to deter women from seeking abortion—and to establish embryos as legal entities deserving of the same treatment as people.

Excellent.
Why shouldn't we make overt efforts to stop;
- drinking while pregnant
- gender specific abortion
- medical malpractice that harms unborn babies
- commercial fetus farming

Not your body or your business; and a fetus is not yet a person

 

[Lion IRC]

Person tells person that they aren't a real person.
How many times have we seen that throughout history? Yuck!

 

[RavenSky]

Person tells person that they aren't a real person.
How many times have we seen that throughout history? Yuck!

A fetus isn't yet a person.

In the meantime, religious nutjobs treat women as less-than-persons, and try to control our bodies, sexuality, freedom and independence. How many times have we seen that throughout history. Yuck!

 

[Lion IRC]

...it’s an overt effort to deter women from seeking abortion—and to establish embryos as legal entities deserving of the same treatment as people.

Excellent.
Why shouldn't we make overt efforts to stop;
- drinking while pregnant
- gender specific abortion
- medical malpractice that harms unborn babies
- commercial fetus farming

Not your body or your business...

An excellent argument for turning a blind eye to other things which are none of my business. (Like fetal alcohol spectrum disorder)
I wonder how many dead beat dads love that argument.

 

[Juma]

...it’s an overt effort to deter women from seeking abortion—and to establish embryos as legal entities deserving of the same treatment as people.

Excellent.
Why shouldn't we make overt efforts to stop;
- drinking while pregnant
- gender specific abortion
- medical malpractice that harms unborn babies
- commercial fetus farming

Not your body or your business; and a fetus is not yet a person

But some are valid points vis a vis the future grown up person. (Or have other implications)
These may not just be the business of the mother.
(But i have nonidea why commersial fetus farming is bad)

 

[Lion IRC]

I have no idea why commercial fetus farming is bad)

The Breeding of American Slaves: True Stories of American Slave Breeding and Slave Babies
Book (Stephen Ashley 2012)

Amazon asks... Did you like this book?

 

[Juma]

I have no idea why commercial fetus farming is bad)

The Breeding of American Slaves: True Stories of American Slave Breeding and Slave Babies
Book (Stephen Ashley)

Amazon asks... Did you like this book?

But since we got rid of slavery.. what is the problem? Does it even exist?

 

[phands]

I have no idea why commercial fetus farming is bad)

The Breeding of American Slaves: True Stories of American Slave Breeding and Slave Babies
Book (Stephen Ashley)

Amazon asks... Did you like this book?

But since we got rid of slavery.. what is the problem? Does it even exist?

These scum are essentially proposing religious and reproductive slavery for women. See the Quiverfull group I mentioned in the 5 cults post. And naturally LIRC, who I see from others' replies is polluting the topic with his drivel, supports them.

 

[Lion IRC]

I am proud to say I support the right of people to be born so they can join the discussion being had about them.

 

[phands]

It is indisputable that a newly fertilized egg is not a person. If it were, given that ah estimated 70% or more of them spontaneously abort, that would make god the biggest abortionist of all.

 

[Lion IRC]

It is indisputable that a newly fertilized egg is not a person. If it were, given that ah estimated 70% or more of them spontaneously abort, that would make god the biggest abortionist of all.

Lemme see if I have this right
Heaps of unborn humans die anyway so abortion is ok

Well heaps of adult humans die of natural causes so ???


I know, I know. Not my body. None of my business.